NFL player refuses to stand for national anthem

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Mitspa

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Yep Jennymae and Dude are in the same camp :)
 

Dude653

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Is this your new deflection tactic?:p
I'm not sure what he's referring to because I have him on ignore. Most of his comments are negative and hateful which is why I have him on ignore
 
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NewWine

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Peaceful protest is an American right, however....I haven't seen a lot of corporate sponsored protests.. Wearing the 49ers uniform while sitting during the anthem makes this a corporate protest...something tells me the sponsors might have more control over this than people think.
Personally I think he's doing this simply for the publicity, since I read last week he was struggling to keep his position on the team, but either way....it doesn't affect me at all.....I'm not a 49ers fan.
 
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We don't know black communities good enough to tell them what's wrong.
I can understand you feeling this way because you grew up in a rural setting, but I am part of the Black community, and I know it well. Institutionalized racism and lack of self respect keep the Black man down. Not to mention the Democratic Party which uses them as pawns for their modern-day plantation.
 
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I can understand you feeling this way because you grew up in a rural setting, but I am part of the Black community, and I know it well. Institutionalized racism and lack of self respect keep the Black man down. Not to mention the Democratic Party which uses them as pawns for their modern-day plantation.
Yes, I can see that point.
 

Dude653

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Recently Pandora donated several million dollars to Black lives matter... another problem I have with black livesmatter if they are not holding these black millionaires like actors and athletes accountable for doing absolutely squat for the black community. Why don't they put their money where their mouth is and Lobby Congress to get laws changed.... nevermind let's block freeways and shut down shopping malls instead
 

notuptome

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You're 100% correct, brother. kaepernick is a punk, but he has a right to be a punk when standing with a clipboard on the football sidelines.
Imagine the outcome if he tried this in North Korea?

Things can always be better but I'd have to say he has it pretty good.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I can understand you feeling this way because you grew up in a rural setting, but I am part of the Black community, and I know it well. Institutionalized racism and lack of self respect keep the Black man down. Not to mention the Democratic Party which uses them as pawns for their modern-day plantation.
People sense when someone Is helping them sincerly from the heart and when someone Is helping out of guilt.

No one,especially after all this time with dignity,wants people to feel sorry for them,helping them because they want to feel like"I did my part to help"

But when someone Is helping from the heart,love never fails,people respond to genuine care because Its not only true healing for the person thats been wounded Internally but It also gives great understanding/wisdom to the one giving love.
 
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Mitspa

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Peaceful protest is an American right, however....I haven't seen a lot of corporate sponsored protests.. Wearing the 49ers uniform while sitting during the anthem makes this a corporate protest...something tells me the sponsors might have more control over this than people think.
Personally I think he's doing this simply for the publicity, since I read last week he was struggling to keep his position on the team, but either way....it doesn't affect me at all.....I'm not a 49ers fan.
Exactly ..America was great when he was a starter... now he is just looking for a excuse for being a second rate quarterback. .. he never was that good in my opinion. Black qb ..white qb ..equal talent ..the pc world demands the black guy gets the job, even if his character is flawed.
 
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FlowersnJesus

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I have mixed feelings about this. He has the right to do it. I just don't know if that is the way to go about expressing such ideas he may have.
Not standing up is a rather aggressive and anarchist way to make a statement. Kinda harsh and a dramatic over reaction, imo.
There are so many other methods of protesting or bringing about change. With his money, take a advertisement out in a newspaper. Join a real life group and/or a web group that is involved in such things.
Run for some political office when he retires, which reading through this thread, seems may be sooner then later. I don't follow football..
Better yet, community organizer, (typed with a sly mischievous sarcastic look).
 
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jennymae

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He has the right to do it, but he shouldn't do it.
 
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Mitspa

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Recently Pandora donated several million dollars to Black lives matter... another problem I have with black livesmatter if they are not holding these black millionaires like actors and athletes accountable for doing absolutely squat for the black community. Why don't they put their money where their mouth is and Lobby Congress to get laws changed.... nevermind let's block freeways and shut down shopping malls instead
I will never knowingly spend one red penny with any company or group that gives to this racist cop hating group
 
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Mitspa

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He has the right to do it, but he shouldn't do it.
Sure he has the right..and people have the right to respond to his hypocrisy ... in the end, he has hurt himself
 
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FriendlyGuitarist

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I laugh at the stupidity in this thread. The NFL does not make their players stand during the national anthem so this guy isn't doing anything wrong. He has the right to do so.
 
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jennymae

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I laugh at the stupidity in this thread. The NFL does not make their players stand during the national anthem so this guy isn't doing anything wrong. He has the right to do so.
Yes...but it was somewhat stupid, didn't do no good, and his name will be attached to what he did. Good job...
 
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Recently Pandora donated several million dollars to Black lives matter... another problem I have with black livesmatter if they are not holding these black millionaires like actors and athletes accountable for doing absolutely squat for the black community. Why don't they put their money where their mouth is and Lobby Congress to get laws changed.... nevermind let's block freeways and shut down shopping malls instead
I agree,but for the sake of the listeners,would you give one suggestion of something's these black actors could do for community.:):):)
 
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What about the discussion where we tell these people we are sick of their nonsense and wish they would leave ? How about the discussion about the real issues in the black community and what they need to do instead of blaming others for the problems, when its clear most of the issues are self-inflicted wounds.
Love covers a multitude of sins and people respond positively to someone who sincerely cares but I guarantee you,telling someone to go back where you came from makes the devil happy and will cause greater division.

The thing that makes America great Is,all type people coming together adding TO the greatness of this great country.
 

Desdichado

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I don't think the offensive thing is his action itself (as people said, it's his right).

But it's the fact that our cultural climate in the US is so systemically anti-American. In earlier days, such an action was unthinkable, not because the law said it was wrong (it didn't) or that there was some civic religion binding everything together (some admittedly saw it and still see it so to this day).

America back then wasn't so distant. America wasn't the IRS, FDR, Buzzfeed, Cops, or Beyonce. America was our neighbors, our churches, our Wednesday meetings at the Elks Lodge. To not put the hand over the heart was almost a breach of that sacred, organic brotherhood.

The more we've distanced ourselves from real community, the more incidents like this will occur. Why put the hand to the heart when there is no real America?
 
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jennymae

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I don't think the offensive thing is his action itself (as people said, it's his right).

But it's the fact that our cultural climate in the US is so systemically anti-American. In earlier days, such an action was unthinkable, not because the law said it was wrong (it didn't) or that there was some civic religion binding everything together (some admittedly saw it and still see it so to this day).

America back then wasn't so distant. America wasn't the IRS, FDR, Buzzfeed, Cops, or Beyonce. America was our neighbors, our churches, our Wednesday meetings at the Elks Lodge. To not put the hand over the heart was almost a breach of that sacred, organic brotherhood.

The more we've distanced ourselves from real community, the more incidents like this will occur. Why put the hand to the heart when there is no real America?
Yeah, we are alienated...