Obama finally delivers on a promise: Vetoes Keystone bill

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Viligant_Warrior

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Obama vetoes Keystone XL pipeline bill

President Obama on Tuesday followed through on his vow to veto bipartisan-backed legislation authorizing the Keystone XL pipeline, marking his first veto of the Republican-led Congress and only the third of his presidency.

The president, in a brief statement, claimed the bill would "circumvent" the existing process for reviewing the pipeline, which would extend from Canada to Texas.
"Circumvent the process"? You mean, like he's been doing for six freakin' years??? So unless and until Congress can override the veto -- they only need four votes in the House and six in the Senate to do so -- Canadian oil gets transported to U.S. refineries on rail cars. Anyone remember last week's West Virginia train wreck in which tens of thousands of gallons of North Dakota crude went up in flames? How many pipelines have blown up recently. Hint: None.

The lack of leadership, logic, and the level of liberal lunacy astounds.
 
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Sirk

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"Circumvent the process"? You mean, like he's been doing for six freakin' years??? So unless and until Congress can override the veto -- they only need four votes in the House and six in the Senate to do so -- Canadian oil gets transported to U.S. refineries on rail cars. Anyone remember last week's West Virginia train wreck in which tens of thousands of gallons of North Dakota crude went up in flames? How many pipelines have blown up recently. Hint: None.

The lack of leadership, logic, and the level of liberal lunacy astounds.

This has nothing to do with the pipeline and everything to do with Obama and his petty little power trip.
 

JesusLives

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For a minute I thought I read the Key Lime Bill and I was wondering.....What's he got against Key Limes?
 
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kennethcadwell

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You do realize why Obama is vetoing this bill don't you ?

This bill will make more jobs available which is the main push of the Republicans, and would be a good thing.
The down side to it that keeps getting over looked is that in order to pay those many new workers would fall on the American public as the oil companies would rise our gas prices again to accommodate paying those extra employees. The other thing that needs to be done that has been pushed for is to come up with better, cleaner sources of fuel and to move away from the dependency of oil.
Which is one of the reason I believe Saudi Arabia fits mystery Babylon of Revelation more then Rome or America does as others believe. Because destroying the country that is the heart beat of the oil exportation system of the world would have devastating outcomes on a lot of other countries. This world depends on oil more than any other resource besides fresh water which also is slowly becoming lesser and lesser by the years.
 

notuptome

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The real reason is that his campaign contributor Buffet owns the railroad that is currently transporting the oil to the refineries. The pipeline would devalue Buffet's investment.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Sirk

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Ohhhhh. Makes sense that buffet was kissing obamas butt. So obvious, don't know why I didn't make the connection.
 
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kennethcadwell

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The real reason is that his campaign contributor Buffet owns the railroad that is currently transporting the oil to the refineries. The pipeline would devalue Buffet's investment.

For the cause of Christ
Roger


That would be a lame excuse to be used as Buffet no longer has any bearing on Obama's campaign.
He is already in office as our president and can not get reelected, so Buffet would have no premise on Obama. Plus Obama has been an advocate to find cheaper cleaner sources for energy and to move away from the oil dependency we are in. Plus Obama pushed the first 2 years of his first term to put and keep a price cap on oil companies so that they could not keep price gouging the American public.
 

notuptome

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That would be a lame excuse to be used as Buffet no longer has any bearing on Obama's campaign.
He is already in office as our president and can not get reelected, so Buffet would have no premise on Obama. Plus Obama has been an advocate to find cheaper cleaner sources for energy and to move away from the oil dependency we are in. Plus Obama pushed the first 2 years of his first term to put and keep a price cap on oil companies so that they could not keep price gouging the American public.
This president is all about fundraising for the DNC. If he spent one tenth the time governing as he spends fundraising the world would not be in chaos right now.

Not to mention the cash he's going to stuff in his pockets when he leaves office.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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kennethcadwell

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This president is all about fundraising for the DNC. If he spent one tenth the time governing as he spends fundraising the world would not be in chaos right now.

Not to mention the cash he's going to stuff in his pockets when he leaves office.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Once again what fund raising as he can not run for office again, so it is a mute point.
Second the only thing that would keep him in office past his term would be if war is going on right here in America on our own home soil. Which funny seems to not even be on his agenda to bring us into another war, as going into the middle east again will set off a land slide of events. Russia and China both have warned the U.S. to stay out of Syria, and Iran and Russia have threatened the U.S. to stay out of Iran. Two places a handful of republicans like McCain have been pushing for.
All presidents still get a paycheck after leaving office even if they have been a bad president.
Every single man that has been our president that is still alive is still collecting a paycheck for being president. Our tax dollars are paying them for a position they no longer hold. Both Bushes were terrible also yet they still are being paid a paycheck, and I don't see anybody complaining about that. Then you say he spends hardly any time governing, but yet that is exactly why congress has been wanting to sue him and even some want impeachment because instead of sitting on his butt like congress has been doing he isn't waiting and passing bills over there head.
I think the problem some of you have is that he is not wanting to govern or police the world. Well that is not the U.S. job to have to govern or police the world, as we are only to govern and take care of our own country. Those countries need to learn to take care of their own issues and not let it happen again.
 

notuptome

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Once again what fund raising as he can not run for office again, so it is a mute point.
Second the only thing that would keep him in office past his term would be if war is going on right here in America on our own home soil. Which funny seems to not even be on his agenda to bring us into another war, as going into the middle east again will set off a land slide of events. Russia and China both have warned the U.S. to stay out of Syria, and Iran and Russia have threatened the U.S. to stay out of Iran. Two places a handful of republicans like McCain have been pushing for.
All presidents still get a paycheck after leaving office even if they have been a bad president.
Every single man that has been our president that is still alive is still collecting a paycheck for being president. Our tax dollars are paying them for a position they no longer hold. Both Bushes were terrible also yet they still are being paid a paycheck, and I don't see anybody complaining about that. Then you say he spends hardly any time governing, but yet that is exactly why congress has been wanting to sue him and even some want impeachment because instead of sitting on his butt like congress has been doing he isn't waiting and passing bills over there head.
I think the problem some of you have is that he is not wanting to govern or police the world. Well that is not the U.S. job to have to govern or police the world, as we are only to govern and take care of our own country. Those countries need to learn to take care of their own issues and not let it happen again.
What can I say? You will not see anything other than your own position. No point in endeavoring to enlighten you.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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kennethcadwell

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What can I say? You will not see anything other than your own position. No point in endeavoring to enlighten you.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Well that would be wrong of you as I look and ask for all points of view, and like I asked twice now what would be the purpose of Obama doing fund raising as he can not run for office again after this term. Plus he will still get a paycheck after his term is up, so he will not be without a paycheck even though his term in presidency is over.
Even the Bushes, Clinton, and any others that maybe still alive that served as president still receive a paycheck for holding that position at one time.
When Obama leaves office after his term the American public will be paying up to at least 5 former presidents even though they don't hold the office anymore.

We should not be responsible to govern or police the world.
We should help those who are being persecuted and the innocents that are being killed by dictators, and terrorist groups. But we should not stay in those countries forever governing and policing them, as that is not our countries responsibility. We have our own problems here that needs to be addressed, and instead we have democrats blaming republicans, and republicans blaming democrats. And neither side getting anything done but raising their own salaries and taking vacations after vacations. The same issues that existed when Obama first took office in his first term still exist today, so neither side is innocent of the issues at hand. Bush Jr. is every much to blame as Obama for the state of our economy today.