Obama nominates openly gay man as Army secretary

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Mitspa said:
Of course its just another attempt to pervert our whole society with this gay agenda nonsense ...it has nothing to do with this guy being anything but a pervert ...and the folks on this forum who continually defend this sort of evil are in fact themselves partakers of this evil.
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Yeah. You're absolutely right. Cause it's about a person's sexual orientation that matters over job qualifications. I have no knowledge in business training, but hey, let me apply for a job in business. I deserve it over the guy that's had his own business since he was 16, even though I don't know a thing of the industry. But you know why I deserve it? Cause he's gay. I'm not.

Sarcasm.. In case you couldn't notice. Now here's the part where you say I'm advocating the lifestyle. Go ahead. I'll wait..
 
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I asked for your proof to make such a statement, and you come back with a smart mouth remark !!!
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You want proof of something that doesn't exist, i.e., a service record for Fanning?



Tell you what, Ken: Find evidence anywhere he ever served active-duty or reserve, and I'll apologize. But you won't, so I won't need to. I'm fed up with your posturing nonsense. Have a nice life, if you can figure out how.
 
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jsr1221 said:
Yeah. You're absolutely right. Cause it's about a person's sexual orientation that matters over job qualifications. I have no knowledge in business training, but hey, let me apply for a job in business. I deserve it over the guy that's had his own business since he was 16, even though I don't know a thing of the industry. But you know why I deserve it? Cause he's gay. I'm not.

Sarcasm.. In case you couldn't notice. Now here's the part where you say I'm advocating the lifestyle. Go ahead. I'll wait.. Or you can go back to hitting on the women on CC again.
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Of course your defending what is clearly the perversion of our society by trying to defend what is evil, as you have done before. Its clear this is just a promotion of the gay agenda and no real Christian would attempt to defend this wickedness as you and others on this forum do.... Reap from your fellowship with darkness, more darkness... all of you who support this nonsense deserve the judgment that is coming to you.
 
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Viligant_Warrior said:
You want proof of something that doesn't exist, i.e., a service record for Fanning?



Tell you what, Ken: Find evidence anywhere he ever served active-duty or reserve, and I'll apologize. But you won't, so I won't need to. I'm fed up with your posturing nonsense. Have a nice life, if you can figure out how.
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I never said he did serve as all I was doing was asking for your proof he didn't to make the claim......

Also he has had a long career in politics in the military branch since 1996, and has been involved in politics since 1990.

He is well qualified for the job at hand rather you like it or not, and that is the point that me and others have tried to point out to you. But you continue to only look at the bias fact that he is gay !!!
 
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Mitspa said:
Of course your defending what is clearly the perversion of our society by trying as you have done before. Its clear this is just a promotion of the gay agenda and no real Christian would attempt to defend this wickedness as you and others on this forum do.... Reap from your fellowship with darkness, more darkness... all of you who support this nonsense deserve the judgment that is coming to you.
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Yep. That's exactly what I'm doing. You should run for president, since you seem to know everything. Time to ignore you, now.
 
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Yep. That's exactly what I'm doing. You should run for President, since you seem to know everything. Time to ignore you, now.
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I can recognize evil when I see it and call it what it is...I can also see the judgment God has for those who claim His Holy name yet defend the evil that the wicked are trying to promote.
 
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Anyone who will not admit this promotion is not based on the gay agenda that Obama is clearly promoting is not a honest person and in fact a defender of what is evil. The judgment of God against these people, be upon you as well.
 
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Mitspa I can see you responded back to me. I have you on ignore. So any post to me is just a waste of your time. Just trying to save you a few minutes.
 
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Mitspa I can see you responded back to me.
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You don't know who, if anyone, Mitspa replied to unless you clicked the "View Post" link. Why do you want to lie?
 
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You don't know who, if anyone, Mitspa replied to unless you clicked the "View Post" link. Why do you want to lie?
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It says "This message is hidden." His username showed after a post I made.. And I just got a rep and like by him. So, if it walks like a duck. Looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. It must be a duck.
 
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I sent the "rep" did you read it? ha ha
 
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It says "This message is hidden." His username showed after a post I made.. And I just got a rep and like by him. So, if it walks like a duck. Looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. It must be a duck.
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As a dectective, you're a great plumber.

 
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1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; 14 or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. 15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

Peter put our responsibility to the government this way. As I studied this, all I could think about was the conflict between what is right according the word of God, and what is right according to man's government. It took a while but verse 15 really drives the point home. "For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: ", says two important things. It is the WILL of God. By doing it, we put to silence ignorance.

In short, must we accept this appointment? Yes. We have no choice but to obey God. Must we approve of it? Absolutely not. The man being appointed is morally corrupt according to the word of God. He has been given over to his reprobate mind. Can we change what is happening now? Yes. The law of the USA has a way. It's called the ballot box. If every Christian in the country votes for candidates that are not morally corrupt, this country will turn around. If not, the entire country will be turned over to it's reprobate mind. If you think things are bad now, sit on your thumbs and watch what happens.
 
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Billyd said:
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; 14 or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. 15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

Peter put our responsibility to the government this way. As I studied this, all I could think about was the conflict between what is right according the word of God, and what is right according to man's government. It took a while but verse 15 really drives the point home. "For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: ", says two important things. It is the WILL of God. By doing it, we put to silence ignorance.

In short, must we accept this appointment? Yes. We have no choice but to obey God. Must we approve of it? Absolutely not. The man being appointed is morally corrupt according to the word of God. He has been given over to his reprobate mind. Can we change what is happening now? Yes. The law of the USA has a way. It's called the ballot box. If every Christian in the country votes for candidates that are not morally corrupt, this country will turn around. If not, the entire country will be turned over to it's reprobate mind. If you think things are bad now, sit on your thumbs and watch what happens.
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You right in part..but Obama is not a "king" the power and authority that God upholds in scripture, belongs to the people under our law... so its our responsibility (biblically) to reprove this evil and not uphold this ungodliness in some failure to understand scripture.
 
maxwel

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KennethC said:
You do realize discrimination is wrong in the eye's of the Lord to ???
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I'm really not that interested in politics, and I mostly come in the news forum to make jokes...
but Ken's point is a strictly biblical issue.

First, lets remember what "discrimination" means in English.
DISCRIMINATION simply means to have a bias, or preference, of one thing over another.

In the Bible, we always see God having a bias against sin.
God is always against sin.
Just pick a sin, any sin, and God is against it.
God always love righteousness, and hates sin.
God always discriminates against sinful behavior.

God is also merciful, and desires for sinners to come to repentance.

But having mercy for sinners doesn't mean he EVER thinks sin is ok.


I know we all have different political views,
but as Christians, we really need to use the bible as a compass,
so that we don't get sucked blindly into all the political rhetoric.
And this DOES happen on both sides of the aisle.
 
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My point above was NOT about whether or not Eric Fanning is qualified,
or why we think the president picked him.
My point is simply that we should be careful, in the heat of debate,
that we DO NOT accidentally throw out statements that are unbiblical.
It's easy to do.


What we're doing here with the word "discriminate" is called a problem of equivocation.

We really need to be more careful, and more astute, when discussing the character of God.



 
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I'm really not that interested in politics, and I mostly come in the news forum to make jokes...
but Ken's point is a strictly biblical issue.

First, lets remember what "discrimination" means in English.
DISCRIMINATION simply means to have a bias, or preference, of one thing over another.

In the Bible, we always see God having a bias against sin.
God is always against sin.
Just pick a sin, any sin, and God is against it.
God always love righteousness, and hates sin.
God always discriminates against sinful behavior.

God is also merciful, and desires for sinners to come to repentance.

But having mercy for sinners doesn't mean he EVER thinks sin is ok.


I know we all have different political views,
but as Christians, we really need to use the bible as a compass,
so that we don't get sucked blindly into all the political rhetoric.
And this DOES happen on both sides of the aisle.
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You are absolutely right against the sin yes, but not against the person committing the sin.

We are told never to reject a person or turn away a person just because of the sins they have committed, if that were the case then nobody would ever get brought to the truth.
 
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KennethC said:
You are absolutely right against the sin yes, but not against the person committing the sin.

We are told never to reject a person or turn away a person just because of the sins they have committed, if that were the case then nobody would ever get brought to the truth.
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Ken,
I'm really not interested in this debate.

I just wanted to clarify some things about the word "discrimination" and what it means in English.
Some words are brimming full of political and social baggage, and we need be careful how we use them.
That was my only point.

Take care,
Max
 
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KennethC said:
You are absolutely right against the sin yes, but not against the person committing the sin.

We are told never to reject a person or turn away a person just because of the sins they have committed, if that were the case then nobody would ever get brought to the truth.
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Oh so this is about trying to win sinners to the truth? Kenneth your just talking in circles now ..this approval and promotion of the gay agenda that Obama is forcing on our society in no way could be suggested as trying to bring people into the truth of Christ , but rather its intention is to take people further into darkness.
 
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