Obama....the national embarrassment.

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Maybe he's trying to make his lame stuff make us duck...
 

Billyd

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I doubt that Mister O will last 48 hours, if Donald Trump doesn't become president at noon on January 20,2017.
 

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And the Russians even praised Herman Munster for his attempts at diplomatic civility.... surprising...

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notuptome

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The true Obama legacy will be that another democrat president will not be elected for another 100 years. This is truly one man who lived down to all the expectations that ethnic bias could expect.

I'm not surprised but I am disappointed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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The true Obama legacy will be that another democrat president will not be elected for another 100 years. This is truly one man who lived down to all the expectations that ethnic bias could expect.

I'm not surprised but I am disappointed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I thought Bush did enough damage to this country that a Republican wouldn't be elected for 100 years. Thankfully, that wasn't the case (if you consider Trump a Republican). Politics can be a "what have you done for me lately" game. I'm not counting on Democrats staying out of office for long, which is why I pray Trump leads this country to greener pastures. He has a stacked deck and he is in position to "make America great again."
 

notuptome

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I thought Bush did enough damage to this country that a Republican wouldn't be elected for 100 years. Thankfully, that wasn't the case (if you consider Trump a Republican). Politics can be a "what have you done for me lately" game. I'm not counting on Democrats staying out of office for long, which is why I pray Trump leads this country to greener pastures. He has a stacked deck and he is in position to "make America great again."
Ethnicity and gender seem to have been over played in the recent election. Progressives are not going to give up on their crusade to rid America of freedom and common decency.

The only hope of the world was crucified and buried two thousand years ago. His return is the only thing that will correct all the ills of this world.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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[video=youtube;T2MuyDZn55o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2MuyDZn55o[/video]
 

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You misspelled Trump
 
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Small business owner hope index at an all time high. Wonder if it has anything to do with the high water wonder Erkel leaving Washington.
 
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Domestic, yeah, but he's considered a fool worldwide now, which, by the way makes Americans in general look like idiots...a lame duck isn't supposed to pull stunts like this...it's freakin lame...
I disagree with that statement. Plenty of people all around the world feel Obama is one of the best Presidents the USA has ever had.

I and all my peers feel unanimously that Obama did a fantastic job against the odds. Bush before him had all but ruined the economy and sentenced America to 20+ years of war. Despite the fact that Obama was against a Republican majority in Senate and House, for most of his two terms, he still managed to achieve all the things he has.

We here in Ireland, most of us, feel that Obama has been a very smart President. Moreso, that the idiots are the Republican House and Senate that denied him so much. If it hadn't been for those Republicans, Obama would have passed his original healthcare bill: FULL public healthcare for everyone. He would have went through with his plans to COMPLETELY withdraw from the middle East. But since the CIA, the mliltary and the treasury are ruled through the de facto power of House and Senate, Obama could not go as far as he would have liked.

If anyone is to blame for the inadequate Obamacare, it is the REpublicans who blocked the full bill. If anyone is to blame for the multitudes of drone strikes and deaths in Syria and Libya, it is the Republicans who blocked the full motion to end the war. And if anyone is to blame for the shambolic Presidency that is about to happen, it is the Republicans who failed to nominate a candidate who could rival the blonde Oompa-Loompa that is Trump.

The world gained some respect back for America during Obama's presidency, but I can assure you that any respect gained will be instantly lost the moment Trump takes power.
 

notuptome

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I disagree with that statement. Plenty of people all around the world feel Obama is one of the best Presidents the USA has ever had.

I and all my peers feel unanimously that Obama did a fantastic job against the odds. Bush before him had all but ruined the economy and sentenced America to 20+ years of war. Despite the fact that Obama was against a Republican majority in Senate and House, for most of his two terms, he still managed to achieve all the things he has.

We here in Ireland, most of us, feel that Obama has been a very smart President. Moreso, that the idiots are the Republican House and Senate that denied him so much. If it hadn't been for those Republicans, Obama would have passed his original healthcare bill: FULL public healthcare for everyone. He would have went through with his plans to COMPLETELY withdraw from the middle East. But since the CIA, the mliltary and the treasury are ruled through the de facto power of House and Senate, Obama could not go as far as he would have liked.

If anyone is to blame for the inadequate Obamacare, it is the REpublicans who blocked the full bill. If anyone is to blame for the multitudes of drone strikes and deaths in Syria and Libya, it is the Republicans who blocked the full motion to end the war. And if anyone is to blame for the shambolic Presidency that is about to happen, it is the Republicans who failed to nominate a candidate who could rival the blonde Oompa-Loompa that is Trump.

The world gained some respect back for America during Obama's presidency, but I can assure you that any respect gained will be instantly lost the moment Trump takes power.
America's enemies embraced BHO because he bowed to them and extolled the virtues of all the hate brokers of the world. Americas allies were left exposed by this persons socialist communist leanings.

America is known for her friends and distinguished by her enemies.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I disagree with that statement. Plenty of people all around the world feel Obama is one of the best Presidents the USA has ever had.

I and all my peers feel unanimously that Obama did a fantastic job against the odds. Bush before him had all but ruined the economy and sentenced America to 20+ years of war. Despite the fact that Obama was against a Republican majority in Senate and House, for most of his two terms, he still managed to achieve all the things he has.

We here in Ireland, most of us, feel that Obama has been a very smart President. Moreso, that the idiots are the Republican House and Senate that denied him so much. If it hadn't been for those Republicans, Obama would have passed his original healthcare bill: FULL public healthcare for everyone. He would have went through with his plans to COMPLETELY withdraw from the middle East. But since the CIA, the mliltary and the treasury are ruled through the de facto power of House and Senate, Obama could not go as far as he would have liked.

If anyone is to blame for the inadequate Obamacare, it is the REpublicans who blocked the full bill. If anyone is to blame for the multitudes of drone strikes and deaths in Syria and Libya, it is the Republicans who blocked the full motion to end the war. And if anyone is to blame for the shambolic Presidency that is about to happen, it is the Republicans who failed to nominate a candidate who could rival the blonde Oompa-Loompa that is Trump.

The world gained some respect back for America during Obama's presidency, but I can assure you that any respect gained will be instantly lost the moment Trump takes power.
I agree with your Trump sentiment.
 
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I disagree with that statement. Plenty of people all around the world feel Obama is one of the best Presidents the USA has ever had.

I and all my peers feel unanimously that Obama did a fantastic job against the odds. Bush before him had all but ruined the economy and sentenced America to 20+ years of war. Despite the fact that Obama was against a Republican majority in Senate and House, for most of his two terms, he still managed to achieve all the things he has.

We here in Ireland, most of us, feel that Obama has been a very smart President. Moreso, that the idiots are the Republican House and Senate that denied him so much. If it hadn't been for those Republicans, Obama would have passed his original healthcare bill: FULL public healthcare for everyone. He would have went through with his plans to COMPLETELY withdraw from the middle East. But since the CIA, the mliltary and the treasury are ruled through the de facto power of House and Senate, Obama could not go as far as he would have liked.

If anyone is to blame for the inadequate Obamacare, it is the REpublicans who blocked the full bill. If anyone is to blame for the multitudes of drone strikes and deaths in Syria and Libya, it is the Republicans who blocked the full motion to end the war. And if anyone is to blame for the shambolic Presidency that is about to happen, it is the Republicans who failed to nominate a candidate who could rival the blonde Oompa-Loompa that is Trump.

The world gained some respect back for America during Obama's presidency, but I can assure you that any respect gained will be instantly lost the moment Trump takes power.
I agree with your Trump sentiment.
I do too. Not only couldn't the best the Republicans had rival Trump, but the best the Democrats had couldn't either. He beat every other candidate from ALL parties. Not one single person any of the parties ran could rival him.
 

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I don't know how you can allege with Obama-gone-a Jenny. Your, I think, exactly the person whom the democrats disdain. Now I am taking some liberties here. I may be wrong about some of the things I am going to point out regarding you. But even if I am, it does not blunt the bigger issue.
So please forgive me and feel free to correct me. Still, again, any assumptions that I got wrong does not alter the main discourse.

The democrats look down on mid America. The same area of the country that embraced Trump. On a personal note, while I was born and raised in a big city, and love city life, I will be the first to admit that from my experience the people of small town America, and that includes most of Vermont, where I have lived for the past 3 years, are the salt of the earth.

I fact after living here, I don't know if I would want to relocate my 2 girls to a big city. I think the quality of life here is better for them.
But on the what I was going to say before I digressed.

So Jenny comes from a hard working family, from the country. The education level is probably college level, but probably not PHD or master degree level for most of them. She, and most of her family probably are content for the most part of where they live. They understand having a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, and the basics is a gift from the Lord. At least a fair number of her family probably have some belief in God. They work hard, live comfortably, but probably have never had a level of financial wealth that would put them in the 1% class.
They are probably fine with all this.

Now cut to Obama and Meryl Streep. In their world it is almost sinful (oops forgot, they don't use that word because there is no god) to not want to leave the small town for the big city. In their world everyone wants to, even if they don't have the talent, be on top. College professors, the creative and entertainment field, the sciences, art and culture. Master degrees, authors, and worldly.
If you don't fit this description they disdain you. Your deplorable. You have no drive. Your clueless. Your slave labor. Your common as dirt. Your sub human. They love immigrants more then you, a family that has been here or industrial age refuse to them.

Of course they will never say that straight out, but they are coming closer and closer to admitting it.
Deplorable's. Re train them. And now Streep. Get rid of Hollywood and all you'll have is football and MMA, she said.

The compassionate liberal. Freedom to be whatever you want. Tolerance, As long as you fit their paradigm of what the ideal is. If not, give me a country expression here Jenny, they will turn faster on you then...?
(Faster then a sneeze through a screen door?)

What a joke. They hate you. They are haughty. They hate our God, the one true God, because he has caused wars according to them He divides.

Yeah, no S___. Those with me or those who deny me. But that's the old ignorant way.

Why don't we get it? One world order and religion is the way to go.

But you and I Jenny are not evolved enough to see it.

Respect to you and your fellow states men. If I am in a foxhole, I want your group 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

Obama is a traitor and saboteur.
Not to mention he is mentally ill. And a ego maniac on par with Trump. Probably worse.

But at least Trump is our ego maniac.
 
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I don't know how you can allege with Obama-gone-a Jenny. Your, I think, exactly the person whom the democrats disdain. Now I am taking some liberties here. I may be wrong about some of the things I am going to point out regarding you. But even if I am, it does not blunt the bigger issue.
So please forgive me and feel free to correct me. Still, again, any assumptions that I got wrong does not alter the main discourse.

The democrats look down on mid America. The same area of the country that embraced Trump. On a personal note, while I was born and raised in a big city, and love city life, I will be the first to admit that from my experience the people of small town America, and that includes most of Vermont, where I have lived for the past 3 years, are the salt of the earth.

I fact after living here, I don't know if I would want to relocate my 2 girls to a big city. I think the quality of life here is better for them.
But on the what I was going to say before I digressed.

So Jenny comes from a hard working family, from the country. The education level is probably college level, but probably not PHD or master degree level for most of them. She, and most of her family probably are content for the most part of where they live. They understand having a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, and the basics is a gift from the Lord. At least a fair number of her family probably have some belief in God. They work hard, live comfortably, but probably have never had a level of financial wealth that would put them in the 1% class.
They are probably fine with all this.

Now cut to Obama and Meryl Streep. In their world it is almost sinful (oops forgot, they don't use that word because there is no god) to not want to leave the small town for the big city. In their world everyone wants to, even if they don't have the talent, be on top. College professors, the creative and entertainment field, the sciences, art and culture. Master degrees, authors, and worldly.
If you don't fit this description they disdain you. Your deplorable. You have no drive. Your clueless. Your slave labor. Your common as dirt. Your sub human. They love immigrants more then you, a family that has been here or industrial age refuse to them.

Of course they will never say that straight out, but they are coming closer and closer to admitting it.
Deplorable's. Re train them. And now Streep. Get rid of Hollywood and all you'll have is football and MMA, she said.

The compassionate liberal. Freedom to be whatever you want. Tolerance, As long as you fit their paradigm of what the ideal is. If not, give me a country expression here Jenny, they will turn faster on you then...?
(Faster then a sneeze through a screen door?)

What a joke. They hate you. They are haughty. They hate our God, the one true God, because he has caused wars according to them He divides.

Yeah, no S___. Those with me or those who deny me. But that's the old ignorant way.

Why don't we get it? One world order and religion is the way to go.

But you and I Jenny are not evolved enough to see it.

Respect to you and your fellow states men. If I am in a foxhole, I want your group 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

Obama is a traitor and saboteur.
Not to mention he is mentally ill. And a ego maniac on par with Trump. Probably worse.

But at least Trump is our ego maniac.
This is all conjecture. Democrats, I don't think look down on middle America. I would probably be a liberal in American terms. I don't look down on Republicans or middle class people (I am a working class man), but I do look down on people who are wilfully ignorant and deliberately uneducated. And it is a fair statement to make that those who elected Trump by and large fall right into that category.

Deliberate stupidity is inexcusable in modern society, imo. I have full respect for the multitudes of people out there who, while not naturally intelligent, work throughout their lives in less desireable jobs, yet still retain the compassion, drive and decency to question xenophobia, racism, sexism, exploitation, wealth inequality and other forms of social failure. What I do not respect are lower or middle class people who believe they own the country; who shun anything "other" because they are afraid of it; who buy into this "stealing our jobs, taking our women" tribalistic nonsense that has fuelled so much of the political tit-for-tat of late.

I have time for anyone who has time for common sense, but those who don't, don't deserve a podium from which to spew their ignorance, imo. Educate the population and you will fix many of the needless problems in the world, but enable their fears and you will end up with a Trump.
 
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maxwel

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I disagree with that statement. Plenty of people all around the world feel Obama is one of the best Presidents the USA has ever had.

I and all my peers feel unanimously that Obama did a fantastic job against the odds. Bush before him had all but ruined the economy and sentenced America to 20+ years of war. Despite the fact that Obama was against a Republican majority in Senate and House, for most of his two terms, he still managed to achieve all the things he has.

We here in Ireland, most of us, feel that Obama has been a very smart President. Moreso, that the idiots are the Republican House and Senate that denied him so much. If it hadn't been for those Republicans, Obama would have passed his original healthcare bill: FULL public healthcare for everyone. He would have went through with his plans to COMPLETELY withdraw from the middle East. But since the CIA, the mliltary and the treasury are ruled through the de facto power of House and Senate, Obama could not go as far as he would have liked.

If anyone is to blame for the inadequate Obamacare, it is the REpublicans who blocked the full bill. If anyone is to blame for the multitudes of drone strikes and deaths in Syria and Libya, it is the Republicans who blocked the full motion to end the war. And if anyone is to blame for the shambolic Presidency that is about to happen, it is the Republicans who failed to nominate a candidate who could rival the blonde Oompa-Loompa that is Trump.

The world gained some respect back for America during Obama's presidency, but I can assure you that any respect gained will be instantly lost the moment Trump takes power.


There are probably 60 million people in the U.S. who think he was the worst president we've ever had.

60 Million Americans who utterly disdain him... that is 12x the entire population of Ireland.

Think about that.
 

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Moko is not listed as a Christian----maybe this helps explain his viewpoint...
 
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There are probably 60 million people in the U.S. who think he was the worst president we've ever had.

60 Million Americans who utterly disdain him... that is 12x the entire population of Ireland.

Think about that.
That's about 18% of Americans: roughly the same percentage who don't pass their high school diplomas (another shameful statistic which Obama made great strides to remedy).

Look, compared to Trump, most of Europe and the rest of the world see Obama as a saint.
 
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That's about 18% of Americans: roughly the same percentage who don't pass their high school diplomas (another shameful statistic which Obama made great strides to remedy).

Look, compared to Trump, most of Europe and the rest of the world see Obama as a saint.
I believe the Muslim world probably does.
 

Dude653

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Obama wasn't the greatest but by far not the worst... the worst would be George W bush