On Syrian refugees and Muslim registry

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I know I'm probably going to say some controversial things, but I don't care about being controversial, I care about being reasonable.


I keep seeing articles like "Why a Muslim registry is wrong" and about Christians saying we need to gladly welcome Syrian refugees. I don't necessarily agree with the idea of a registry, but I agree with some of the ethics behind it: Keeping our country safe.


Some people say we shouldn't have fear because we're Christians. Well, God also wants us to consider the safety of our neighbors, our families, and friends, not just strangers. God also does not protect us from the consequences of our bad choices. You may say you're willing to risk your safety and life, but you have no right to make that decision for someone else.


Others have said this is what happened when we interred the Japanese during World War II. I agree with what they're saying, and what happened to Japanese Americans was wrong. But most of those Japanese citizens grew up in America. And they didn't have the technology we do in the day of the internet. The reason ISIS attacks have been so widespread is because of modern technology and the internet. Anyone can go online and be recruited.


My point is, just because we're Christians does not mean we have to abandon common sense. We have no right to endanger the safety of others just because we're willing to do it for ourselves. I'm not trying to make an argument. I just want to have a healthy discussion.
 
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I'd say most Christians I've talked to on the subject are against allowing the refugees in at all, or having strict requirements before allowing them in. Personally I've yet to meet any Christian with the attitude you're describing. Not that they don't exist, just that perhaps that your experience may not be representative of as many as you believe it to be.
I, for one, am against allowing them in. There's already been enough evidence of the negative consequences of opening our borders in this area.
 
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I'm not saying we shouldn't help them. I'm just saying we need to be wise as well as compassionate. The Bible does tell us to help those who can't help themselves, but it also says that a person who doesn't protect their family is worse than an unbeliever. It's just a complicated issue which I think Christians want to make simple, but they can't.
 
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Muslims..... Killing Christians since 629 A.D.
 
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HistoryPrincess said:
I'm not saying we shouldn't help them. I'm just saying we need to be wise as well as compassionate. The Bible does tell us to help those who can't help themselves, but it also says that a person who doesn't protect their family is worse than an unbeliever. It's just a complicated issue which I think Christians want to make simple, but they can't.
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Let Germany help them.

We can take the German refugees trying to escape islam.
 
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Not all Muslims are killers. I'd go so far as to say a majority of them aren't. But yes, their theology does at its core inspire violence.
 
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Even if Trump is a good president, yea, even if he is the greatest president, he will not remain forever. For what will the future governments begin to make registries about next? Let us be careful of what authorities we give the principalities and powers of this world for too often than not as the story goes they become used against us.
 
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Urijah said:
Even if Trump is a good president, yea, even if he is the greatest president, he will not remain forever. For what will the future governments begin to make registries about next? Let us be careful of what authorities we give the principalities and powers of this world for too often than not as the story goes they become used against us.
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Agreed, so I believe the next step is to wipe Islam from the earth so it's never known again.
 
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There is nothing new under the sun. Yet Christianity has survived for two-thousand years.
 
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Agreed, so I believe the next step is to wipe Islam from the earth so it's never known again.
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It is no worry then for all the earth shall be wiped out one day whether Islam creeps upon it or not.

This issue of the registry I perceive to be more about US than islam.
 
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Anyway. They are fleeing a war-torn country. Most of them are grateful to be here. Well the last thing they're going to want to do is to hurt someone and get sent back
 
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Crusades much?
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The crusades were a military response to the fall of the Byzantine empire to muslims and the invasion of western Europe by muslims.

So what's your point, dude?
 
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Dude653 said:
Anyway. They are fleeing a war-torn country. Most of them are grateful to be here. Well the last thing they're going to want to do is to hurt someone and get sent back
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Yes, they are grateful for being able to come here and out breed us and kill Americans.
 
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Dude653 said:
Anyway. They are fleeing a war-torn country. Most of them are grateful to be here. Well the last thing they're going to want to do is to hurt someone and get sent back
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Actually, a majority of refugees prefer to stay in Syria rather than risk their lives to go to another country. One solution that has been offered is to set up safety areas in or around Syria. It won't be easy, but it's something.
 
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Tommy379 said:
The crusades were a military response to the fall of the Byzantine empire to muslims and the invasion of western Europe by muslims.

So what's your point, dude?
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Christians killed a BEEEEEEEP load of people
 
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Show me in the bible where it says we are to help those who agree with is religiously?
 
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Urijah said:
Do you feel threatened by Islam?
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Absolutely I do. This is a cult that has spread the last 1400 years by violence and has killed thousands of civilians within my lifetime, in the name of the demon they worship.
 
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