Poll shows Carson assumes lead in Iowa, outpolls Hillary among all voters

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Public Policy Polling: General Election Tight in Iowa

PPP's new Presidential poll in Iowa finds a tight race in the general election for President in the state. Hillary Clinton leads 7 of her Republican opponents while trailing 4 of them, but in none of the cases are the margins larger than 4 points.

The strongest Republican against Clinton in the state is Ben Carson, who leads her 44/40. The other three GOP hopefuls ahead of Clinton all lead her by just a single point- Mike Huckabee at 44/43, Scott Walker at 44/43, and Marco Rubio at 43/42.
Just goes to show that the talking heads can say who won the debate all they want, it is what the people say that counts.
 
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Did you see Hillary is losing support in droves? I really hope she does the perp walk.
 
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Carson and Fiorina top voter Gravity Iowa Flash Poll

Voters. How fickle we are. What makes us support one person, and not another? Even more interesting, what makes us change support from one person to another?

Voter Gravity has now conducted two Iowa flash polls in 2015. Those polls exclusively consist of voters who have participated in every Republican primary and general election since 2008. These are definitely the most consistent Republican voters in Iowa, and while we can’t know all the reasons why these voters are shifting loyalties, they most certainly are.

Ben Carson topped the post-debate Iowa poll with 19%, but had already done very well in our May Iowa poll, earning 11% at that time. Based on the jump, it’s clear that Carson earned plenty of new supporters and built off the foundation he already had coming into the debate.

When Carly Fiorina entered the presidential race, she didn’t have much national name ID. In the May Iowa poll Fiorina only had 4% support. But with a ton of earned media coverage, a great showing in the debate and social media buzz through the weekend, Fiorina ended up at 13% in the Monday post debate Iowa poll of the highest propensity Iowa Republicans. This was the greatest net change for any candidate in the poll.
Trump? He dropped to !2% Monday night. His Iowa support from two weeks ago has been halved.
 
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Well looks like we have some news about Ben Carson.

Carson defends his research on aborted fetuses - CNNPolitics.com

Seems Carson has played mad scientist before with aborted fetuses and weakly defends using the harvested body parts of the unborn. Makes one real curious where he got his macabre specimens from.
Nice spin. Just like the CNN headline. The reality is he didn't do research on aborted fetuses that were acquired for him, but with material that was made available to him for analysis. Watch Megyn tonight and get the truth.

Interesting, too, that just a couple days after you claimed Ben has no chance, followed by his rise to the top of the Iowa polls, you join CNN in trying to discredit him. But you're not a liberal, isn't that what you claim?

 
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Nice spin. Just like the CNN headline. The reality is he didn't do research on aborted fetuses that were acquired for him, but with material that was made available to him for analysis. Watch Megyn tonight and get the truth.

Interesting, too, that just a couple days after you claimed Ben has no chance, followed by his rise to the top of the Iowa polls, you join CNN in trying to discredit him. But you're not a liberal, isn't that what you claim?

Nice try, but clearly Carson doesn't mind working on the aborted or harvesting parts from the aborted. It's just sick is what it is. Time to stop supporting Dr. Frankenstein.
 
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Nice spin. Just like the CNN headline. The reality is he didn't do research on aborted fetuses that were acquired for him, but with material that was made available to him for analysis. Watch Megyn tonight and get the truth.

Interesting, too, that just a couple days after you claimed Ben has no chance, followed by his rise to the top of the Iowa polls, you join CNN in trying to discredit him. But you're not a liberal, isn't that what you claim?

I don't know a single conservative who talks in circles like GIS. Seems there is a hidden bias that's not so hidden....at least to the trained eye.
 
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I don't know a single conservative who talks in circles like GIS. Seems there is a hidden bias that's not so hidden....at least to the trained eye.

Curious how there's all this so-called conservative outrage over the barbaric act of abortion and the more barbaric act of harvesting fetuses. Then when it turns out one of their anti-abortion candidates has worked on aborted fetuses and makes his money doing experiments on their carcasses the GOPers all of a sudden have all these excuses, and of course shoot the messenger. Real curious that is.
 
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Curious how there's all this so-called conservative outrage over the barbaric act of abortion and the more barbaric act of harvesting fetuses. Then when it turns out one of their anti-abortion candidates has worked on aborted fetuses and makes his money doing experiments on their carcasses the GOPers all of a sudden have all these excuses, and of course shoot the messenger. Real curious that is.
Like I'm gonna take your word for it. Lol
 
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Like I'm gonna take your word for it. Lol
Don't have to take my word for it. Carson admits it and his weak defense is;

Carson said. "To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?"

You can even watch him say it. Hey Ben, here's a thought, maybe because it's sick and demented.
 

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It's exciting to see Carson doing so well.
 

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A plus for Carson in my book...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1cpxZ1UsAY

Calling Obama out for what he is...

"I think anything is anti-Semitic that is against the survival of a state that is surrounded by enemies and people who want to destroy them," Carson said. "To act like everything is normal there and that these people are paranoid, I think that's anti-Semitic." Carson added that on a recent trip to Israel, he "couldn't find a single person there who didn't feel that this administration had turned their backs on Israel."
 
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I've liked Dr. Carson since he stood less than 10 feet from Obama at the May 2013 National Prayer Breakfast, calling out every major stance the president has and exposed it for what it is. When he announced officially in the spring, I did something I've never done -- I volunteered to serve his campaign in Missouri, and now work closely with his county chairman here.

Shortly after his announcement, The Blaze posted an editorial that explained why he is an excellent choice for president.

On his approach to the job:

  • Problem solver, not ideologue
  • Committed to Americans, not to a party or group
  • Uses systems thinking–practices good medicine
On his core principles:

  • Believes in freedom and the personal responsibility that comes with it
  • Knows government serves people, not vice-versa
  • Is politically incorrect -- and was decidedly so long before Trump started talking about it
Background & experience:

  • Not professional politician; outsider
  • Common man – not from the elite; from under-represented group
  • Past decisions prove his good judgment
You and I would like one of us in the oval office, not a professional politician. We want an outsider -- that's why Trump is capturing people's imaginations. We want an individual of the people. How about a president who is a black man, raised in poverty, in Detroit by a single, illiterate mother? How about a boy who went to public schools there; and who eventually became a world famous brain surgeon?

If this sounds like a great American success story, it is. If that sounds like the kind of person we want in the White House, Dr. Ben is already that man. He doesn't have to reinvent himself to be who he is.
 

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He's been one on my short list.
 

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Nice try, but clearly Carson doesn't mind working on the aborted or harvesting parts from the aborted. It's just sick is what it is. Time to stop supporting Dr. Frankenstein.
If he isnt the one doing the aborting then who cares. After an abortion takes place its just another corpse like any other body. Why you are assigning such a high level of importance to a dead body is beyond me. Ben Carson did not do the abortion.
 
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I've liked Dr. Carson since he stood less than 10 feet from Obama at the May 2013 National Prayer Breakfast, calling out every major stance the president has and exposed it for what it is. When he announced officially in the spring, I did something I've never done -- I volunteered to serve his campaign in Missouri, and now work closely with his county chairman here.

Shortly after his announcement, The Blaze posted an editorial that explained why he is an excellent choice for president.

On his approach to the job:

  • Problem solver, not ideologue
  • Committed to Americans, not to a party or group
  • Uses systems thinking–practices good medicine
On his core principles:

  • Believes in freedom and the personal responsibility that comes with it
  • Knows government serves people, not vice-versa
  • Is politically incorrect -- and was decidedly so long before Trump started talking about it
Background & experience:

  • Not professional politician; outsider
  • Common man – not from the elite; from under-represented group
  • Past decisions prove his good judgment
You and I would like one of us in the oval office, not a professional politician. We want an outsider -- that's why Trump is capturing people's imaginations. We want an individual of the people. How about a president who is a black man, raised in poverty, in Detroit by a single, illiterate mother? How about a boy who went to public schools there; and who eventually became a world famous brain surgeon?

If this sounds like a great American success story, it is. If that sounds like the kind of person we want in the White House, Dr. Ben is already that man. He doesn't have to reinvent himself to be who he is.
I think dr. Carson is the only realistic GOP candidate. He might could be the next president.
 

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I think dr. Carson is the only realistic GOP candidate. He might could be the next president.

Dr. Carson spoke at my university my final semester.. That man has such a powerful testimony. God has basically placed him in our laps here in America as a way to fix all the wrong we have done... But we are going to screw that up I feel like, because I don't think he's going to win. Not enough people know about him, and most would be put off by his Christian beliefs, unfortunately. This will be my first election I vote in. I wasn't 18 at the time in 2008, and in 2012 I didn't really feel I needed to vote or wanted to for that matter. For me, I don't need to read or watch anything to know which candidate to vote for.
 
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Nice spin. Just like the CNN headline. The reality is he didn't do research on aborted fetuses that were acquired for him, but with material that was made available to him for analysis. Watch Megyn tonight and get the truth.

Interesting, too, that just a couple days after you claimed Ben has no chance, followed by his rise to the top of the Iowa polls, you join CNN in trying to discredit him. But you're not a liberal, isn't that what you claim?

Helloooo VW. How are you? You do shift a lot of gears. Now you're advising others to watch TV. Unbelievable! How many cylinders are you running on? :eek:

VW, I'm glad Carson is up in the polls. I'm glad Hillary is losing support. I'm glad Trump rose in the polls. I'm glad Bernie is up in the polls.

Now quit investing so much hope in one man and in the polls.
 
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If he isnt the one doing the aborting then who cares. After an abortion takes place its just another corpse like any other body. Why you are assigning such a high level of importance to a dead body is beyond me. Ben Carson did not do the abortion.
He keeps their sick system running and is even a part of it.

Plus Carson has no experience, so he has been relying heavily on social issues to prop up his campaign. Particularly in regards to abortion and the Planned Parenthood scandal. Turns out Ben Carson is a link in the chain of the same macabre system of abortion, harvesting fetuses, and experimenting with their body parts.

It is very telling of overall GOP hypocrisy as I have mentioned before. Before all this the GOP is likening the government to Nazis even over abortion. You can even see this on this own site. Yet when one of theirs is exposed as part of that same system, then all of sudden they act like it's all okay. Saying he didn't perform the abortions as an excuse is like saying Dr. Mengele didn't order the Final Solution as an excuse. It's no excuse. He's still part of the program and profited off of it.

If you're going to support Carson, that's fine, but don't tell me on one day how Obama is like Hitler and the government are Nazis because of abortion. Then on the next day turn around and tell me how Carson is this somehow different and acceptable candidate when he is part of the same exact system.
 
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He keeps their sick system running and is even a part of it.

Plus Carson has no experience, so he has been relying heavily on social issues to prop up his campaign. Particularly in regards to abortion and the Planned Parenthood scandal. Turns out Ben Carson is a link in the chain of the same macabre system of abortion, harvesting fetuses, and experimenting with their body parts.

It is very telling of overall GOP hypocrisy as I have mentioned before. Before all this the GOP is likening the government to Nazis even over abortion. You can even see this on this own site. Yet when one of theirs is exposed as part of that same system, then all of sudden they act like it's all okay. Saying he didn't perform the abortions as an excuse is like saying Dr. Mengele didn't order the Final Solution as an excuse. It's no excuse. He's still part of the program and profited off of it.

If you're going to support Carson, that's fine, but don't tell me on one day how Obama is like Hitler and the government are Nazis because of abortion. Then on the next day turn around and tell me how Carson is this somehow different and acceptable candidate when he is part of the same exact system.
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