RINOs betray America again

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Nehemiah6

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Instead of totally shutting down the Ukrainian scam, and stopping the flow of billions or dollars and insane amounts of military hardware, the RINOs decided to help Biden with his raping of America by promising more aid to Ukraine. Is this insanity or treason? And this when they should all have been in East Palestine with Donald Trump, giving aid and comfort to those who suffered needlessly under Biden and Buttigieg.

House Republicans Visit Kyiv: There Is ‘Strong, Bipartisan Support to Give Ukraine Everything that It Needs

McCaul continued:
Primarily, he needs the longer-range artillery, also known as ATACMS, that can go all the way into Crimea to take out the Iranian drones that are causing so many problems throughout Ukraine – [hitting] power [infrastructure] and killing innocent civilians. He also needs air-to-surface systems including aircrafts like the F-16.
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We have strong bipartisan support to give Ukraine everything that it needs to win.​
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...rtisan-support-give-ukraine-everything-needs/

The RINOs love this proxy war with Russia, since it gets public attention off their betrayal of America. This is all the more reason for Putin to annex Ukraine, and bring an end to this useless war. Zelensky is a thug, a dictator, and a scam artist.
 
SomeDisciple

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These are the reps that went to Ukraine in the article.

Michael McCaul (R-TX)
Keith Self (R-TX),
Max Miller (R-OH),
Darrell Issa (R-CA),
Jake Ellzey (R-TX)

Max Miller says there are a lot of "Ukrainians" in his district... He's probably trying to hedge support in with this move; it's still garbage, though.
There were German-Americans and Italian Americans that wanted the US to Join the Axis during WWII... so... teach your constituents to put AMERICA FIRST.

Darrell Issa has opposed Ukraine funding in the past... He is a career politician... he's probably the best we can hope for in a state like CA.

McCaul is just full of :poop:, saying a bunch of things that don't even make sense to sell the war. I hope TX ditches that guy.

“If Ukraine falls, Chairman Xi in China’s going to invade Taiwan. It’s Russia, China. Iran is putting drones in Crimea, and North Korea that is putting artillery into Russia. They have to understand the case. And they talk about the border, not mutually exclusive at all. We can do both. We’re a great country. We can walk and chew gum at the same time,” McCaul said.

Keith Self is the same. Parroting speculative nonsense to sell the war. I hope TX ditches him, too.

"We must not want this to go into NATO or between the U.S. and China," he said. "That must not happen. We must not have nuclear weapons involved. If we can keep this confined to the current battlefield, I would be all-in for that because we cannot let this get to escalate further."

I can't find anything Jake Ellzey has said... so maybe he isn't as interested as the other guys from Texas, or he doesn't want the blowback from supporters; so he just doesn't say anything.
 
2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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*Sigh* This is why I'm not a Republican. I've been an unaffiliated voter for quite some number of years. :confused:
 
seed_time_harvest

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Donald Trump use to be pro choice,Is he a Rino.What determines a RINO?
 
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POLITICS
RINO hunting in the age of Trump
RINO used to mean someone who didn’t follow party orthodoxy. But in the Trump era it came to mean disloyalty to the former president
 
iamsoandso

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seed_time_harvest said:
POLITICS
RINO hunting in the age of Trump
RINO used to mean someone who didn’t follow party orthodoxy. But in the Trump era it came to mean disloyalty to the former president
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Cancel culture 101,,,although it has always meant this we are changing it to now mean....
 
Cameron143

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seed_time_harvest said:
POLITICS
RINO hunting in the age of Trump
RINO used to mean someone who didn’t follow party orthodoxy. But in the Trump era it came to mean disloyalty to the former president
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Trump is a Washington outsider. As such, he is more interested in actually doing what conservatives want done, rather than just talking about what conservatives want done. Thus, when attempting to put conservative policies in place, one would expect pushback from liberals, but not from those espousing conservative views. This wasn't the case with "conservative" leadership. So, there is little difference between the two any longer.
 
iamsoandso

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seed_time_harvest said:
Donald Trump use to be pro choice,Is he a Rino.What determines a RINO?
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Not because of that,, but if he is a RINO and that means it's because he supports military aid to Ukraine well,,,Trump said he was against other nations not giving it also and just the US giving it. Now days though it's as if we think the issue is that Trump is anti-aid to Ukraine but this is what he actually said... https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...93a6ca-de38-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html
 
seed_time_harvest

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iamsoandso said:
Not because of that,, but if he is a RINO and that means it's because he supports military aid to Ukraine well,,,Trump said he was against other nations not giving it also and just the US giving it. Now days though it's as if we think the issue is that Trump is anti-aid to Ukraine but this is what he actually said... https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...93a6ca-de38-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html
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I clicked on the link but It won’t let me read the article without subscribing?
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Instead of totally shutting down the Ukrainian scam, and stopping the flow of billions or dollars and insane amounts of military hardware, the RINOs decided to help Biden with his raping of America by promising more aid to Ukraine. Is this insanity or treason? And this when they should all have been in East Palestine with Donald Trump, giving aid and comfort to those who suffered needlessly under Biden and Buttigieg.

House Republicans Visit Kyiv: There Is ‘Strong, Bipartisan Support to Give Ukraine Everything that It Needs

McCaul continued:
Primarily, he needs the longer-range artillery, also known as ATACMS, that can go all the way into Crimea to take out the Iranian drones that are causing so many problems throughout Ukraine – [hitting] power [infrastructure] and killing innocent civilians. He also needs air-to-surface systems including aircrafts like the F-16.​
…​
We have strong bipartisan support to give Ukraine everything that it needs to win.​
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...rtisan-support-give-ukraine-everything-needs/

The RINOs love this proxy war with Russia, since it gets public attention off their betrayal of America. This is all the more reason for Putin to annex Ukraine, and bring an end to this useless war. Zelensky is a thug, a dictator, and a scam artist.
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Artillery for (flying) drones?!? That's a novel concept!
But then again, I was infantry, so what do I know?
 
iamsoandso

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seed_time_harvest said:
I clicked on the link but It won’t let me read the article without subscribing?
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I didn't read the article I clicked on the video and listened to him(articles usually give their 2cents). It was back when he was the pres. and had stopped the aid to Ukraine but he says he's ok with it if Europe and other nations were giving aid also. NATO and several nations are giving aid now so unless he's going to flip his position from his first term he's not against aid to Ukraine.
 
iamsoandso

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I say unless he flips his position ect. but this is from about 5 months ago and when pressed about aid to Ukraine he still says he wants the others to give more aid and thinks the US is paying too much of it ourselves. Anyway I see a lot that think he would just end all aid to Ukraine and I think "is this just social media?",, because that's not what Trump is saying himself. Again watch the video and hear him talk,,, https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/politics/ukraine-russia-putin-trump-town-hall/index.html
 
SomeDisciple

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Cameron143 said:
Trump is a Washington outsider. As such, he is more interested in actually doing what conservatives want done, rather than just talking about what conservatives want done. Thus, when attempting to put conservative policies in place, one would expect pushback from liberals, but not from those espousing conservative views. This wasn't the case with "conservative" leadership. So, there is little difference between the two any longer.
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Exactly.

Rush Limbaugh talked about this all the time loooong, long, long before Trump was ever involved.... That the GOP was full of disaffected democrats and men more than willing to compromise themselves for money/votes.

The "Drive-by-media" (as Rush would say) are now trying to paint this picture that these worms are the "real" conservatives... and that "these radical MAGA's" are EXTREMISTS"... but the reality is that much of the establishment GOP doesn't actually share principles with the Republican constituency.
 
SomeDisciple

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iamsoandso said:
I didn't read the article I clicked on the video and listened to him(articles usually give their 2cents). It was back when he was the pres. and had stopped the aid to Ukraine but he says he's ok with it if Europe and other nations were giving aid also.
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This incident where he stopped the aid shows that he cannot unilaterally stop the aid directly, because separation of powers. Trump was right, though; in that Europe needed to do more before Putin sent in the Russian Army. Now it's a different, harder scenario.
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nyway I see a lot that think he would just end all aid to Ukraine and I think "is this just social media?",, because that's not what Trump is saying himself.
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What he has been saying is that he will negotiate a peace settlement; this will markedly reduce the immediate need for aid, and the resources/people's lives being wasted there.

The media accuses him of "flip-flopping" on Ukraine; but he's been consistent on the goal of restoring peace.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
Exactly.

Rush Limbaugh talked about this all the time loooong, long, long before Trump was ever involved.... That the GOP was full of disaffected democrats and men more than willing to compromise themselves for money/votes.

The "Drive-by-media" (as Rush would say) are now trying to paint this picture that these worms are the "real" conservatives... and that "these radical MAGA's" are EXTREMISTS"... but the reality is that much of the establishment GOP doesn't actually share principles with the Republican constituency.
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there you go, you get it!

great post!
 
iamsoandso

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lol, almost nothing to worst,and all over a daydream...
 
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