Sarah Takes on Bill Nye

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Palin: Bill Nye ‘as much a scientist as I am’

Sarah Palin tore into Bill Nye’s scientific qualifications on Thursday, saying he has no authority to say climate skeptics are wrong. Palin, the former governor of Alaska and the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, said the man known for his show "Bill Nye the Science Guy," is using his position of authority to harm children by teaching them that climate change is real and man-made. “Bill Nye is as much a scientist as I am,” Palin said at a Capitol Hill event held to roll out a film that aims to discredit climate scientists. “He’s a kids’ show actor, he’s not a scientist.” Palin said behind the “alarmism” that the climate is changing is a “predetermined” and political agenda “of those, ...Read more
 
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Earth does go through changes no doudt do we humans contribute to it yes we do
 
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But man contributing and man made are two different ideas.
 
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True that but if we contribute wouldn't that be called man made contribution.
 
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Global warming is a hoax
 
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The climate is always changing. Sometimes the change is good. Sometimes it's bad. Does man contribute to the changes? Maybe. Maybe not. Should man continue to do things that we know have an effect on the climate that supports us? God gave man dominion over the earth. I can't help but believe that He is not happy with the way that we have exercised that dominion.
 
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Billyd said:
The climate is always changing. Sometimes the change is good. Sometimes it's bad. Does man contribute to the changes? Maybe. Maybe not. Should man continue to do things that we know have an effect on the climate that supports us? God gave man dominion over the earth. I can't help but believe that He is not happy with the way that we have exercised that dominion.
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Billyd, I have never thought of this, but you are correct, we have not exercised our dominion in a decent way...and we are living in our sinful ways.
 
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Create a crisis and rob the taxpayer blind. We should start a campaign that printing too much money causes climate change. Shut down the printing presses and go back to gold based currency.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Create a crisis and rob the taxpayer blind. We should start a campaign that printing too much money causes climate change. Shut down the printing presses and go back to gold based currency.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Have you ever really thought about how a gold based currency would work?
 
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Take this Bill...you science guy you


For the first time, 12 ice cores drilled in the northern section of Greenland have been “stacked” and published. Curiously, these 12 ice cores were drilled from 1993 to 1995, so this is not new data– but it’s the first time that all 12 oxygen isotope records, which are a proxy for temperature, have been published together. The area represents about 10% of Greenland, and seems to behave differently to the southern part. The warm event in 1420 is described as a local effect. The researchers acknowledge that solar activity is important and solar activity correlates with temperatures. It must be growing more and more obvious to climate researchers that their models have to include the long term solar cycles.
The take-home messages for me are: 1/ Natural variability is big and unpredictable. 2/ When we get this kind of detail from all the continents and regions of the ocean we’ll definitely be in a position to start getting the big Global Climate Models to work. 3/ Until we figure out how the Sun causes climate change, the current models are useless.







Around 1420 AD, an anti-correlation between sea-ice extent in the Arctic Ocean (Kinnard et al., 2011) and the δ18O values is observed (Fig. 10). The sea ice in the Arctic Ocean shows a recession in this time of warm temperatures in northern Greenland.

A shrunken sea ice extent would cause higher temperatures on a regional scale and would increase the amount of water vapour from local sources. Therefore, compared to distant sources, more isotopically-enriched moisture (Sime et al., 2013) may contribute to precipitation in northern Greenland, in particular east of main ice divide.However, we do not see any direct relationship between sea-ice extent and our NG-stack during the rest of time. The used sea ice record is an Arctic-wide one, which means that the climatic events of regional extent do not have to be always reflected in the sea ice extent record…

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With the full set of the NGT records, it was now for the first time possible to describe regional differences in the δ 18 O values in northern Greenland over the last 1000 years. Because of the ice sheet topography we see a clear east-to-west difference in northern Greenland δ 18 O distribution. The east-to-west gradient is larger than the north-to- south gradient. We find a more pronounced persistence of warm or cold events east of the main ice divide and assume more stable climate conditions there. The eastern part is more influenced by local effects like changes in the Arctic Ocean, which has tobe supported by the results of climate models. For the first, time a local warm event at 1420±20 AD was pointed out. We assume an atmosphere-sea ice feedback as one possible reason for this event.


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After attending Lafayette Elementary and Alice Deal Junior High in the city, he was accepted to the private Sidwell Friends School on a partial scholarship and graduated in 1973.[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] He studied mechanical engineering atCornell University (where he took an astronomy class taught by Carl Sagan)[SUP][9][/SUP] and graduated with a B.S. in mechanical engineering in 1977.[SUP][10][/SUP] Nye occasionally returns to Cornell as a guest-lecturer of introductory-level astronomy and human ecology classes.[SUP][11][/SUP]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye

I was hoping to see more educational experience. HE has a degree in mechanical engineering and he would have taken other courses but I was hoping for more.
 
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To be fair, his scientific credentials are superior to hers.
 
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To be fair, his scientific credentials are superior to hers.
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Seems like some of the professors I've had didn't buy any new clothes in the last 20 years.
 
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Chuckt said:
Seems like some of the professors I've had didn't buy any new clothes in the last 20 years.
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Come again?

I'm not saying the man is a genius, but he has certainly had more exposure to science in the realm of engineering than she has. That doesn't mean he's right and she's wrong. Credentials tend to indicate a familiarity with process and a familiarity with process does not always equate to being ultimately correct.

Just ask the Bush staffers who were trounced by Trump.
 
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Come again?

I'm not saying the man is a genius, but he has certainly had more exposure to science in the realm of engineering than she has. That doesn't mean he's right and she's wrong. Credentials tend to indicate a familiarity with process and a familiarity with process does not always equate to being ultimately correct.

Just ask the Bush staffers who were trounced by Trump.
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Too funny......you get in a "Go Trump" shot on a man made global warming thread....... :)

Oh, wait, Trump believes in man made global warming.......hmm
 
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Oh boy.... Is this really a thing worthy of discussion?! Global Warming/Climate Change due to humans IS incontrovertibly true. This is sad...why are there so many of us embracing pseudoscience? Are we going to buy into homeopathy next??
 
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Kisses1990 said:
Oh boy.... Is this really a thing worthy of discussion?! Global Warming/Climate Change due to humans IS incontrovertibly true. This is sad...why are there so many of us embracing pseudoscience? Are we going to buy into homeopathy next??
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The best example of pseudoscience I've seen lately is the statement in red, preceding the emboldened above........
 
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