Sirk pulls his support of Trump

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What is really, really funny is how some here can't wait to post derogatory comments about those who disagree with them, telling them how "judgmental" they are being, and that God will judge them for it.............

..........annnnnnnnnnnd, then you read their comments, and you be like........

uh, er, isn't THAT judgmental?

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toooooooo, toooooooooo funny

Seems like you are still steamed and holding on to offense. LOL
Maybe there was some truth to what "some" have said.

Tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sadddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
 
Apr 22, 2016
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Were they anything like Mr Donald Trump?

I don't know as much as I wish I knew about these things,would you say a few names of those former inexperienced presidents?:)
Reagan was a movie star. :p

1. Abraham Lincoln—Lincoln spent eight years in the Illinois Legislature but only one term in the House of Representatives and lost his U.S. Senate campaign in 1858.
2. Woodrow Wilson—He had served as New Jersey's governor for two years when he was elected president in 1912.
3. George W. Bush—He served as governor of Texas from 1995 to 2000 before being sworn in as president in January of 2001.
4. Theodore Roosevelt—Roosevelt was governor of New York from 1898 to 1900 and served six months as vice president before becoming president after William McKinley was shot.
5. Franklin Delano Roosevelt—His political experience prior to the presidency included one term as a state senator and a stint as governor of New York from 1929 to 1932.


And since so many lean in on the fact that Trump hob nobbed with those in politics Id garner that he knows more about the inside scoop to leading than you realize.
 
Apr 22, 2016
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LOL........Maybe He (Trump) will surround himself with smart people,at least thats what he says.
Seriously,I just don't understand Donald,nor can I understand how his supporters don't call him on the Immature stuff that he does.
Sigh.......
Well, stating that we all agree on everything Trump says and does is a gross miscalculation. I dont agree with all his platform or some of the stupid stuff he has said. I agree that he can make a difference and a beneficial difference.

None are innocent of saying stupid stuff. They have all done it so your stance is just simply picking his bones till they bleed. This is typical anti trumpist agenda.
The man does have a heart and he has done good things in the past for people. The news doent bring these things to the forefront because it simply does not benefit their cause which is to demonize him. You have taken the bait and eaten it whole:)
 

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i do agree that Trump is more 'anti-establishment' than Clinton. and though i don't agree with the argument that Sanders can't possibly win the dem nomination, and a Clinton v. Trump general election is a foregone conclusion at this point, i understand that point of view.
i still have hope that he can take the nomination. if God wills it, it will happen. & maybe He doesn't, but He did will that this man should run, and i do thank Him for that, because his campaign has altered the face of American politics already, in a good way, even if it won't ultimately put him in the white house.

but i still maintain that voting for someone you don't actually support is the worst thing you can do with your vote. i will not vote for Trump just because i don't like Clinton and Trump is now the only "republican" candidate.

i'll write in if i have to. that's not a waste IMO -- that's exercising the freedom our country affords me, without bowing to the influence of the 2-party system.
i hope you all do the same. do not vote for anyone just in order to vote "against" someone else. vote for someone you really want to see hold the office - i see anything else as casting a lie.

Utah & Sirk, i know you two actually support Trump -- no dishonor to vote your conscience in that case; i think you're both nuts for that reason, but what i'm saying isn't about that, you know :)
 

posthuman

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Reagan was a movie star. :p
he was also governor of California for 8 years before running for president, and very politically active for 20 years before that, giving many speeches as representative for several advocacy groups and holding leadership positions in a number of political action organizations.
he didn't just step from a 'reality' show into the presidential race. he had experience.

seed_time_harvest has a valid point. Trump has never held an elected office at all -- everyone in your list was a governor or congressman for some years. he has actually zero experience in governance - his relevant experience is going to parties with some important people, taking over his father's business and bankrupting several companies, and knowing "how to make a profitable deal" - which amounts to the knack for telling people what they want to hear, so you can convince them to accept terms that wind up getting you what you want.
 
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i do agree that Trump is more 'anti-establishment' than Clinton. and though i don't agree with the argument that Sanders can't possibly win the dem nomination, and a Clinton v. Trump general election is a foregone conclusion at this point, i understand that point of view.
i still have hope that he can take the nomination. if God wills it, it will happen. & maybe He doesn't, but He did will that this man should run, and i do thank Him for that, because his campaign has altered the face of American politics already, in a good way, even if it won't ultimately put him in the white house.

but i still maintain that voting for someone you don't actually support is the worst thing you can do with your vote. i will not vote for Trump just because i don't like Clinton and Trump is now the only "republican" candidate.

i'll write in if i have to. that's not a waste IMO -- that's exercising the freedom our country affords me, without bowing to the influence of the 2-party system.
i hope you all do the same. do not vote for anyone just in order to vote "against" someone else. vote for someone you really want to see hold the office - i see anything else as casting a lie.

Utah & Sirk, i know you two actually support Trump -- no dishonor to vote your conscience in that case; i think you're both nuts for that reason, but what i'm saying isn't about that, you know :)

Clinton is not anti establishment at all!
 
Apr 22, 2016
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he was also governor of California for 8 years before running for president, and very politically active for 20 years before that, giving many speeches as representative for several advocacy groups and holding leadership positions in a number of political action organizations.
he didn't just step from a 'reality' show into the presidential race. he had experience.

seed_time_harvest has a valid point. Trump has never held an elected office at all -- everyone in your list was a governor or congressman for some years. he has actually zero experience in governance - his relevant experience is going to parties with some important people, taking over his father's business and bankrupting several companies, and knowing "how to make a profitable deal" - which amounts to the knack for telling people what they want to hear, so you can convince them to accept terms that wind up getting you what you want.
Daniel 2:21-22

He changes times and seasons;
he deposes kings and raises up others.
He gives wisdom to the wise
and knowledge to the discerning.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]He reveals deep and hidden things;
he knows what lies in darkness,
and light dwells with him.
 
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Well, stating that we all agree on everything Trump says and does is a gross miscalculation. I dont agree with all his platform or some of the stupid stuff he has said. I agree that he can make a difference and a beneficial difference.

None are innocent of saying stupid stuff. They have all done it so your stance is just simply picking his bones till they bleed. This is typical anti trumpist agenda.
The man does have a heart and he has done good things in the past for people. The news doent bring these things to the forefront because it simply does not benefit their cause which is to demonize him. You have taken the bait and eaten it whole:)
I don't know sister MsSuzanna
I just think there Something really bad wrong about him.
 
Apr 22, 2016
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he was also governor of California for 8 years before running for president, and very politically active for 20 years before that, giving many speeches as representative for several advocacy groups and holding leadership positions in a number of political action organizations.
he didn't just step from a 'reality' show into the presidential race. he had experience.

seed_time_harvest has a valid point. Trump has never held an elected office at all -- everyone in your list was a governor or congressman for some years. he has actually zero experience in governance - his relevant experience is going to parties with some important people, taking over his father's business and bankrupting several companies, and knowing "how to make a profitable deal" - which amounts to the knack for telling people what they want to hear, so you can convince them to accept terms that wind up getting you what you want.
You really make yourself look very ignorant the way you phrase things out of context. In the first place, he has far surpassed his fathers wealth. So what if he had a leg up. It sounds like you are piss poor and have a chip on your shoulder:(
We already went over the bankrupt thing. You havent a clue about BIG business. He broke NO LAWS.
knowing "how to make a profitable deal" - which amounts to the knack for telling people what they want to hear,
I can tell you have never made a profitable deal in your whole life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sales isnt telling SMART people want they want to hear but it is educating and convincing them why it is PROFITABLE and BENEFICIAL for them!! .
One bad deal is all it takes to lose trust in a partner. Continuing deals is a result of fair deals for all.
Im tired talking with you.
I enjoy talking to people that know what they are talking about.
 

Sirk

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I don't know sister MsSuzanna
I just think there Something really bad wrong about him.
What's wrong with him is what is good about him and what we need right now. It takes a man with an ego to push thru adversity and get things accomplished. Do you really think that Trump wants to go down in history as the guy who put the final nail in the coffin of America? I find that very doubtful.
 

Sirk

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And as far as Bernie goes...I think he has good intentions but he is very misguided.
 

Sirk

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And as far as Hillary goes, she is rotten to her core.
 

Sirk

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I think we are gonna see some very interesting cabinet choices. I would love to see Ron Paul as treasury sec. Ben Carson as surgeon general and Hillary clinton as prison fodder. Lol
 
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I think we are gonna see some very interesting cabinet choices. I would love to see Ron Paul as treasury sec. Ben Carson as surgeon general and Hillary clinton as prison fodder. Lol
I will be first to send her a bible to her jail cell:)
 

Utah

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*cough* Bernie Sanders exists and has been taking on the establishment for decades *cough*

i think he's way more 'anti-establishment' than Trump, too. plus, he's not a liar.

i simply have more respect for a man who does not accept Christ and will honestly say so, than a man who does not believe in Christ but is willing to say that he does in order to gain influence and power. it's insulting to me that such a man would assume that just saying a few of the 'right words' will persuade actual believers that he is 'one of them' -- and very troubling that such an assumption should turn out to be true :(
I respect what you're saying, but I'd rather have a non-Christian who can do a better job than a non-Christian who is a gentle spirited communist.
 

Sirk

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I respect what you're saying, but I'd rather have a non-Christian who can do a better job than a non-Christian who is a gentle spirited communist.
And a very misguided one to boot. As I said before, I think Bernie has good intentions. But we all know what the road to hell is paved with.
 

Utah

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Utah & Sirk, i know you two actually support Trump -- no dishonor to vote your conscience in that case; i think you're both nuts for that reason, but what i'm saying isn't about that, you know :)
I've never been nor am I a die-hard Trump supporter. I'm a die-hard anti-democrat. If I could have one living person be President for the next eight years it would be John Bolton.