Study: Muslims To Outnumber Christians Worldwide At 2070

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Billyd

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If the Lord tarries, at the rate that Christians are failing to raise solid Christian children, I may live to see Muslims outnumber Christians. Please ensure that your children and grandchildren have solid Children values, and encourage others to do the same.
 
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al-Ahad

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Study: Muslims To Outnumber Christians Worldwide At 2070
Numbers, what does it all mean? Nothing, unless there's real substance behind those numbers. It's no different to acquiring and having knowledge. For what, what is the purpose? If not for sharing, if not for personal growth, then it's simply wasted time and knowledge.

For me, I'd be more interested in the "why" aspect of what this study (if true) is trying to suggest to us. Why, why would Muslims outnumber Christians at a particular point in time? And furthermore, how and by what means is this number growing? If it's all due to birth rate, then wilder beast have a great birthrate also, with only few lions to rule over the whole savanna.

At the end of the day when all is said and done, I would be more concerned with who would be sitting at the helm ruling, instead of who would be ruled! For as long as justice for all is afforded to one and all, I would not lose sleep regarding numbers or any other simplistic tool some people may like to use to pass their time with.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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At the end of the day when all is said and done, I would be more concerned with who would be sitting at the helm ruling, instead of who would be ruled! For as long as justice for all is afforded to one and all, I would not lose sleep regarding numbers or any other simplistic tool some people may like to use to pass their time with.
The antichrist's rule of the one world government will look very much like that. Like you, many will "not lost sleep regarding numbers" or anything else when he is in control. Only to find out, in the end, that is an horrific mistake.
 
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al-Ahad

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The antichrist's rule of the one world government will look very much like that. Like you, many will "not lost sleep regarding numbers" or anything else when he is in control. Only to find out, in the end, that is an horrific mistake.
You have quoted me yes, yet you have contradicted what you have quoted. I did mention justice for all. Are you suggesting this antichrist would offer justice for all?
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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You have quoted me yes, yet you have contradicted what you have quoted. I did mention justice for all. Are you suggesting this antichrist would offer justice for all?
No, and I didn't suggest that in the least. I said that is what most of the world will believe about his rule -- until he proves otherwise.
 
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Numbers, what does it all mean? Nothing, unless there's real substance behind those numbers. It's no different to acquiring and having knowledge. For what, what is the purpose? If not for sharing, if not for personal growth, then it's simply wasted time and knowledge.

For me, I'd be more interested in the "why" aspect of what this study (if true) is trying to suggest to us. Why, why would Muslims outnumber Christians at a particular point in time? And furthermore, how and by what means is this number growing? If it's all due to birth rate, then wilder beast have a great birthrate also, with only few lions to rule over the whole savanna.

At the end of the day when all is said and done, I would be more concerned with who would be sitting at the helm ruling, instead of who would be ruled! For as long as justice for all is afforded to one and all, I would not lose sleep regarding numbers or any other simplistic tool some people may like to use to pass their time with.
I see by your profile you are not Christian so this is a question out of ignorance....are you a Muslim? I also see NSW as the state you live in....What city do you live in....? I have been all over Sydney, Blacktown, St. Clair, Penrith, Parrametta, etc.......
 

notuptome

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Being a Muslim is not a choice. One is compelled to be Muslim or die. There are far fewer Christians than an study will ever reveal. The studies count Christians to be any one who is not Jewish, Muslim or otherwise classified. Ninety nine percent of what is counted as Christian is not.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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lumberjack

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There are 1.2 catholics in the world, their numbers are growing rapidly especially in third world countries. If [certain] protestants would stop treating them as heretics and consider them fellow christians [which they are], we'd be on top again. A house divided cannot stand.
 
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lumberjack

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There are 1.2 catholics in the world, their numbers are growing rapidly especially in third world countries. If [certain] protestants would stop treating them as heretics and consider them fellow christians [which they are], we'd be on top again. A house divided cannot stand.
erratum [before the fun starts lol] thats 1.2 BILLION
 

Billyd

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My question is "Are we counting those who are active Christians, or those who just say that they are Christians?"

If we measure active Muslims in the world against active Christians in the world, we are outnumbered today!

Regardless of ways we measure the total, the real subject should be "It's Time for Christians to Wake Up and go to Work!"
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Ironic, considering that last century much of the world lie in the totalitarian grip of atheistic ideologues under state atheism. Religious believers were mercilessly persecuted behind the iron and bamboo curtains. Socio-economic advancement was predicated on political membership that fully embraced state atheism.

Now here we are, less than a century later, reading studies about the nonreligious population decreasing to a point of political immateriality.

Personally, I believe the nonreligious population will finally find religion when the antichrist materializes "whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders" -2 Thessalonians 2:9.

But not there yet. In fact, I saw a commercial recently on a mainstream television network for atheism. Yes, that's correct, atheists are making their own commercials now and buying time on television to air them.


I find it interesting that according to that study the nonreligious will probably die out at some point due to declining birth rates.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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About 85–90% of the world's Muslims are Sunni which means that, despite their ongoing and widely publicized conflict with Shiaites, Islam is actually very homogenized for this reason.

And, as long time Middle East correspondent and expert Ken Timmerman often points out, "When it comes to killing Christians and Jews; Sunni and Shia get along just fine."


Muslims= shia + sunni, and they're fighting eachother to the death as we speak.
So I don't really see a problem.
 
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kennethcadwell

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2.1 billion muslims is grossly exaggerated (not on your part but on those studies).

I highly doubt that as the Muslim nations can build right now a 200 million man army in and by itself alone, so that being said if you take the rest of the population that are not part of the armies of those countries could easily fend that kind of numbers.
Remember there is a number of nations that are mainly to all Muslim nations, and then every country around the world has Muslims in it including the U.S. We have a big population of Muslims here now days in America, but European countries have even bigger populations. I really doubt that number is grossly exaggerated, as I believe around the world they could easily fend 1.5 to 2.1 billion people. This also came from multiple sources and not just one that show them with that kind of numbers in population.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Here is a breakdown of total of Muslims in the world by location;


Asia countries - 1.33 Billion

African countries - .52 Billion

European countries - 56.04 Million

North America - 7.61 Million

South America - 2.45 Million

Oceania (Australia) - .54 Million


You can see by this list you have two locations in the African countries and the Asia countries that are almost 2 billion just by themselves without the other locations.
 
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al-Ahad

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The antichrist's rule of the one world government will look very much like that. Like you, many will "not lost sleep regarding numbers" or anything else when he is in control. Only to find out, in the end, that is an horrific mistake.
Hahaha, God bless you brother, that's not where I was going with this at all :)! I'd rather believe that we have a misunderstanding between us here, so I'll clarify. When I said "at the end of the day", I was not even thinking of the subject pertaining to "the end of days" where the antichrist would surface and so on. I think you took my figurative (everyday speech) a bit more literally, and perhaps that is why you've come to your conclusion. It's all good brother.

Cheers.
 
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al-Ahad

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Muslims= shia + sunni, and they're fighting eachother to the death as we speak.
So I don't really see a problem.
I know for a fact that your statement is not a representation of Christianity. So it's safe to conclude that you're representing your own view point here and no one else's. Would you agree?

Put another way, imagine a 747-400 falls out of the sky with men, women, and children..., all belonging to the Muslim faith. Would you be rejoicing and allowing your alter ego to take over, blinding your rationality of the reality that has just taken place, or would you consider the fact that an innocent life is an innocent life irrespective of belief?

You may argue that hey, I was talking about those "shia + sunni" fighters/soldiers etc. and not civilians. To that my response would be, when does a soldier become a target for some nutcases who are living in our society? In other words, if a soldier is walking down the street in some US city, would you classify him and qualify him as a legitimate target to (say) a Muslim nutter who's full of hate and irrationalities?

Hence, I opened my post to you with, you are not a representative of what I know Christianity to be all about sir. I thank you for your time.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Author and columnist Paul Sperry and researcher Ann Corcoran of Refugee Resettlement Watch are sounding the alarm that Muslim immigration from dangerous nations under Obama is dramatically higher than in recent years.

[video=youtube;Fr-o1lmga7I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-o1lmga7I[/video]

Franklin Graham - Stop Muslim Immigration From Terror Countries Now: https://youtu.be/fM44hjkbvLw
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Pakistani businessman Parvez Henry Gill says he was sleeping when God crashed into one of his dreams and gave him a job: find a way to protect Christians in Pakistan from violence and abuse.

"I want you to do something different," God told him. That was four years ago, and Gill, a lifelong devout Christian, struggled for months with how to respond. Eventually, after more restless nights and more prayers, he awoke one morning with his answer: He would build one of the world's largest crosses in one of the world's most unlikely places.

"I said, 'I am going to build a big cross, higher than any in the world, in a Muslim country,' " said Gill, 58. "It will be a symbol of God, and everybody who sees this will be worry-free."

Pakistani businessman Parvez Henry Gill builds a huge ‘bulletproof’ cross in Karachi

[video=youtube;HhkWOQMAg2g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhkWOQMAg2g[/video]
 

Desdichado

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Pakistani businessman Parvez Henry Gill says he was sleeping when God crashed into one of his dreams and gave him a job: find a way to protect Christians in Pakistan from violence and abuse.

"I want you to do something different," God told him. That was four years ago, and Gill, a lifelong devout Christian, struggled for months with how to respond. Eventually, after more restless nights and more prayers, he awoke one morning with his answer: He would build one of the world's largest crosses in one of the world's most unlikely places.

"I said, 'I am going to build a big cross, higher than any in the world, in a Muslim country,' " said Gill, 58. "It will be a symbol of God, and everybody who sees this will be worry-free."

Pakistani businessman Parvez Henry Gill builds a huge ‘bulletproof’ cross in Karachi

[video=youtube;HhkWOQMAg2g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhkWOQMAg2g[/video]
What an absolutely beautiful statement. Beautiful in both the symbol and the courage it took to make it happen.

There is a German proverb: The dog may bark, but the caravan continues.

May the Glory show all around.