The Shooting of Michael Brown

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JimJimmers

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Straight-ish arc?
We're talking about a shot directly down into the top of the head . The shot you're talking about doesn't exist to make the head shot Mr.Brown suffered.
I was speaking technically, because I figured if I said "straight line", someone would say "bullets don't travel in a straight line, they are affected by gravity." I was trying to preempt that.

My main point is, it is possible to be shot in the top of the head from a distance. Without getting too graphic here: Brown takes a shot to the eye from 30 feet away, recoils, his chin slumps to his clavicles, is then hit in the top of the head.

It is not impossible to shoot someone in the top of the head from a distance.
 
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Save that witnesses said the officer stood over Mr.Brown and shot him in the head. Ergo, my prior statement appears to remain true, per those witnesses and the coroners report. And since this discussion centers around Mr.Brown's injuries only.The shot you're talking about doesn't exist to make the head shot Mr.Brown suffered.
 

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I just found this searching for something else but I found it interesting that I hadn't even heard of it on any major news site.
Utah protesters demand justice for Dillon Taylor, others killed by police | The Salt Lake Tribune

While national news media continue to focus on race in Ferguson, Missouri, where a white police officer shot and killed an unarmed black teenager, they apparently don’t think a similar case in Utah with the races reversed is that newsworthy.
Police in Salt Lake City are continuing their probe into an Aug. 11 shooting outside a 7-Eleven convenience store, when a black police officer, whom local media are referring to as “not white,” shot and killed 20-year-old Dillon Taylor, who was unarmed at the time, according to his supporters.
 

Atwood

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What is the evidence that Brown was murdered?
What do you want evidence for?
The cop is white; the guy killed is black.
The settles it; the cop is guilty,
guilty of being white.
 

Atwood

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I'd heard he claimed the young man broke his eye socket as he punched the officer through the window of his cruiser.
Even still, had he been injured, as cops often are on the job, he's not entitled to drive himself away from the scene where he just dropped a civilian by firing 6 bullets into him.
What is your proof that he drove away? That doesn't agree with the time line published.

And with an alleged broken eye socket, his driving would be compromised due to vision impairment, and of course shock.
What difference does it make about his eye or being in shock? The cop is white, so he is guilty period. Anything & everything he did was thus wrong. And you are quite right to bad-mouth him and assume any bad thing whatsoever. You don't need any other evidence except that he is white.

It's horrible to see him laying there like that.
You are so right. The white policeman should have been cuddling his body and weeping, crying out for forgiveness for his sin of being white. White policemen have not rights whatsoever, and should not seek medical treatment.

And there is no weapon anywhere to be seen near his body.
You are so right. Nothing he did could be wrong because he has the right race. And moreover, fists of 300 pound 6 foot 4 inch men, are not weapons. So the policeman hit himself in the eye & broke his own eye socket. A man of Brown's race is obviously innocent. And the white man is guilty.
 

Atwood

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Save that witnesses said the officer stood over Mr.Brown and shot him in the head. Ergo, my prior statement appears to remain true, per those witnesses and the coroners report. And since this discussion centers around Mr.Brown's injuries only.The shot you're talking about doesn't exist to make the head shot Mr.Brown suffered.
They have to be right. Not only did the policeman shoot Brown in the back, then shoot him more while standing up, why the policeman stood over Brown and shot him some more. Then he worked over the corpse with his billy club, bit him, & tazored the corpse. Then he drove the squad car over Brown. Finally the cop hit himself in the eye to break his eye socket and give cover for his crime. And you know how we know all this? It is proven by the race of Brown, the race of the witnesses, and the race of the cop (who is of a guilty race, always wrong).
 
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They have to be right. Not only did the policeman shoot Brown in the back, then shoot him more while standing up, why the policeman stood over Brown and shot him some more. Then he worked over the corpse with his billy club & tazored the corpse. Finally the cop hit himself in the eye to break his eye socket and give cover for his crime. And you know how we know all this? It is proven by the race of Brown, the race of the witnesses, and the race of the cop (who is of a guilty race, always wrong).
He is guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion.
 

Atwood

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He is guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion.
Wrong, as long as the cop is white & Brown is black, the cop is guilty period. It is metaphysically impossible for him ever to be innocent. As the Afro-peruvian American, George Zimmerman, wrongly thought to be white -- but just a thought that a man is white is enough to condemn him.

And in the same way OJ Simpson must be innocent.
 

JimJimmers

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Save that witnesses said the officer stood over Mr.Brown and shot him in the head. Ergo, my prior statement appears to remain true, per those witnesses and the coroners report. And since this discussion centers around Mr.Brown's injuries only.The shot you're talking about doesn't exist to make the head shot Mr.Brown suffered.

The shot I'm talking about doesn't, however, violate "basic physics and anatomy". If you're just going by eyewitness statements, when I ask how you figure, you can just say "eyewitness accounts." That would save us both a lot of trouble.

Although I must reiterate, impossible means impossible, it doesn't mean 'goes contrary to eyewitness accounts'.
 
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Anti-white racism extends all the way to the top now too. Pat Buchanan weighed in with the following:

"Fifteen minutes before the shooting, Brown was caught on videotape manhandling and menacing a clerk at a convenience store he was robbing of a $44 box of cigars.

A woman, in contact with Wilson, called a radio station to say that Brown and Wilson fought in the patrol car and Brown had gone for the officer’s gun, which went off.

When Brown backed away, Wilson pointed his gun and told him to freeze. Brown held up his hands, then charged. Wilson then shot the 6’4,” 292-pound Brown six times, with the last bullet entering the skull.

St. Louis County police then leaked that Wilson had been beaten “severely” in the face and suffered the fracture of an eye socket.

Brown’s companion, Dorian Johnson, says Brown was running away when Wilson began to fire.

But, according to the autopsies, all of the bullets hit Brown in the front. ABC now reports that Dorian Johnson has previously been charged with filing a false police report.

If the first version is true, Wilson is guilty. If the second is true, Brown committed two felonies before being shot, and Darren Wilson fired his weapon in defense of his life.

If there is any public official who should recuse himself from any role in this investigation, it is not Robert McCulloch but Eric Holder.

Holder has a lifelong, almost Sharpton-like, obsession with race.

Three weeks in office, he declared America a “nation of cowards” for refusing to discuss race more. Arriving in St. Louis, he declared, “I am the attorney general of the United States. But I am also a black man.”

Query. What is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, who is heading up the federal investigation of the shooting of a black teenager by a white cop, doing declaring his racial solidarity?

Holder then related several incidents that have stuck in his craw:

“I can remember being stopped on the New Jersey turnpike on two occasions and accused of speeding. Pulled over. … ‘Let me search your car.’ … Go through the trunk of my car, look under the seats and all this kind of stuff. I remember how humiliating that was and how angry I was and the impact it had on me.”

Holder also spoke of being stopped by a cop in Georgetown when he was running to the movies.

Fine. The Great Man is outraged by such indignities. But the mindset exhibited here raises a grave question as to whether Eric Holder can objectively lead an investigation of a white cop who shot a black teenager. In Eric Holder’s mind, the verdict already seems in.

Any defense attorney would have Eric Holder tossed out of a jury pool, as soon as he started to vent like this.

If Holder has made up his mind about what happened in Ferguson that Saturday, fine. He is entitled to his opinion. But someone who has already decided officer Wilson’s actions are consistent with a racist police pattern he has observed personally should not be passing judgment on whether officer Wilson goes on trial for his life.

President Obama says he does not want to put “my thumb upon the scales” of justice. He should take Eric Holder’s thumb off."




Wrong, as long as the cop is white & Brown is black, the cop is guilty period. It is metaphysically impossible for him ever to be innocent. As the Afro-peruvian American, George Zimmerman, wrongly thought to be white -- but just a thought that a man is white is enough to condemn him.

And in the same way OJ Simpson must be innocent.
 

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What is your proof that he drove away? That doesn't agree with the time line published.



What difference does it make about his eye or being in shock? The cop is white, so he is guilty period. Anything & everything he did was thus wrong. And you are quite right to bad-mouth him and assume any bad thing whatsoever. You don't need any other evidence except that he is white.



You are so right. The white policeman should have been cuddling his body and weeping, crying out for forgiveness for his sin of being white. White policemen have not rights whatsoever, and should not seek medical treatment.



You are so right. Nothing he did could be wrong because he has the right race. And moreover, fists of 300 pound 6 foot 4 inch men, are not weapons. So the policeman hit himself in the eye & broke his own eye socket. A man of Brown's race is obviously innocent. And the white man is guilty.
This doesn't add to the discussion, it just creates problems and bad feelings.
 
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Here's another one: Accused killer says Livingston teen's murder was 'vengeance' against U.S. | NJ.com

^ In this case, a black male U.S. citizen who identified as Muslim was going around randomly murdering white males because he was mad at the U.S..


I just found this searching for something else but I found it interesting that I hadn't even heard of it on any major news site.
Utah protesters demand justice for Dillon Taylor, others killed by police | The Salt Lake Tribune

While national news media continue to focus on race in Ferguson, Missouri, where a white police officer shot and killed an unarmed black teenager, they apparently don’t think a similar case in Utah with the races reversed is that newsworthy.
Police in Salt Lake City are continuing their probe into an Aug. 11 shooting outside a 7-Eleven convenience store, when a black police officer, whom local media are referring to as “not white,” shot and killed 20-year-old Dillon Taylor, who was unarmed at the time, according to his supporters.
 
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I suspect if we do not shut up we will be audited by the IRS.

sick, just sick

I am.......there are no words
 
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I won't entertain racist blanket statements. That is all.
What is your proof that he drove away? That doesn't agree with the time line published.



What difference does it make about his eye or being in shock? The cop is white, so he is guilty period. Anything & everything he did was thus wrong. And you are quite right to bad-mouth him and assume any bad thing whatsoever. You don't need any other evidence except that he is white.



You are so right. The white policeman should have been cuddling his body and weeping, crying out for forgiveness for his sin of being white. White policemen have not rights whatsoever, and should not seek medical treatment.



You are so right. Nothing he did could be wrong because he has the right race. And moreover, fists of 300 pound 6 foot 4 inch men, are not weapons. So the policeman hit himself in the eye & broke his own eye socket. A man of Brown's race is obviously innocent. And the white man is guilty.
 
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I don't care what shot you're talking about. We're talking about the shot to the very top of Micahel Brown's head. Which doesn't happen at 1000 feet away. And if you don't know about witness statements, you should take the trouble and find out about those. Otherwise, nothing you say means anything to the case we're actually discussing here.

The shot I'm talking about doesn't, however, violate "basic physics and anatomy". If you're just going by eyewitness statements, when I ask how you figure, you can just say "eyewitness accounts." That would save us both a lot of trouble.

Although I must reiterate, impossible means impossible, it doesn't mean 'goes contrary to eyewitness accounts'.
 

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I won't entertain racist blanket statements. That is all.
My post was a protest vs racism.

Bragging on one's pigment or taking sides based on whose pigment matches mine is racist.

All these slogans are an abomination:
1) Hispanic Pride,
2) White Pride,
3) Black Pride.

What branch of the race of Adam one is in, is nothing to be proud of; in fact pride is a sin (Daniel 4).
 

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Can Integration Ever Be Effected & Racism Abolished?

IMHO, both the Zimmerman/TM case & now this Brown/Wilson case show the racism that is so strong in this country. Some people view things through racist glasses & take sides based on membership in one's own (racistly defined) group. For example, there is the Hispanic group called La Rasa.

How to end this & just be human beings? Multiculturalism opposes that; it is back to segregation of a sort.

They tried this thing of busing children. Should they have rather tried integration by real estate?
Public schools are quite segregated today. Some neighborhoods are largely segregated. Are not most churches segregated?

What do you think?
Would it be feasible to make a checker board pattern to housing? These numbers are just possible numbers, they might be changed, as I am no expert on demographics. But should the law be something like the following?:

1) Afro-americans may not live in adjacent houses. A house adjacent to a black family must be sold to a non-black owner, and may not be inhabited by a black family.

2) The same rule applies to Hispanics, Chinese, and any other group which is not of North-European descent.

3) No more than 2 houses owned by & inhabited by north-european whites may exist. If a house would make 3 in row, it must be sold to some minority group.

4) Indians must follow the same minority rules, and cannot be lumped into reservations.

Of course then the objection would be that this was not fair because 2 white families are allowed to live next to each other, but no other group can do that.

But if something is not done like this, will there ever be integration? At least the election of Barack Obama indicates some degree of pigment-difference-toleration.

And can by some legislation the Tower of Babel principle be thwarted? Persons who don't speak the same language wish to separate and live with their own language group.

Can public housing be integrated? How is it that it is not?

Will we just have to wait for Christ to return & straighten out our mess?
 
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