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don't have much else to offer you.
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ЕСТЕСТВЕННЫЕ ГРАНИЦЫ ГОСУДАРСТВА ИЗРАИЛЬ
Эрец Исраель (Земля Израиля), Земля Обетованная
- Герб Международного Гиперсионистского Движения "Беад Арцейну" ("За Родину!")
Границы от Нила до Евфрата – это естественные границы. Они являются природными границами региона и соответствуют законам геополитики, поскольку здоровые, устойчивые, естественные границы всегда проходят по природным рубежам. Границы Земли Израиля идут по Таврским горам (это и сегодня граница между Сирией и Турцией), побережью Средиземного Моря, восточному рукаву дельты Нила – западному краю Синайской пустыни, по северному краю Аравийской пустыни (одной из самых непроходимых пустынь мира) и по реке Евфрат.
Достигнуть этих границ – предписывающая заповедь Торы. Согласно перечню Рамбана это: "Четвертая заповедь. Заповедано нам владеть землей, которую Б-г дал нашим праотцам - Аврааму, Ицхаку и Яакову, и не оставлять ее в руках иноплеменников, или совсем незаселенной. Как сказано: “И овладейте землею и поселитесь на ней, ибо вам дал Я эту землю, вступить во владение ею”. “И наследуйте землю, о которой Я клялся отцам вашим”. Земля эта внутри ее границ только наша, и специально указал Он ее границы: “И идите к горе эмори и ко всем соседям его на равнине, на горе и в низине, и на юге и на побережье морском” - сообщить, что нельзя отрывать от нее ни пяди".
То, что народ Израиля будет владеть всей территорией Земли Израиля, существование еврейского государства именно в этих граница – есть обещание Создателя:
Берейшит(15: 18): В тот день заключил Господь с Аврамом завет, говоря: Твоему потомству дал я эту землю от реки Мицраима до великой реки, реки Прат.
Дварим (1:7-8): Обратитесь и отправляйтесь в путь, и идите к горе эмори и ко всем соседям его на равнине, на горе и в низине, и на юге и на побережье морском, на землю кенаани и к Леванону до потока великого, потока Прат. Смотри, Я дал пред вами землю. Идите и владейте землей, о которой клялся Господь вашим отцам Аврааму, Ицхаку и Йаакову, дать (ее) им и потомству их после них.
Дварим (11:22-25): Ибо если строго соблюдать будете всю эту заповедь, которую заповедую вам исполнить, любить Господа, Б-га вашего, ходить всеми путями Его и держаться Его; То изгонит Господь все эти племена от лица вашего, и овладеете вы племенами, которые больше и сильнее вас. Всякое место, куда ступит ваша нога, вам будет оно, от пустыни и Леванона, от потока, потока Прат, и до моря крайнего будет предел ваш. Не устоит никто пред вами; страх и ужас пред вами наведет Господь, Б-г ваш, на всю землю, на которую ступите, как говорил Он вам.
Йеошуа (1:1-4): И было, после смерти Моше, раба Г-сподня, сказал Г-сподь Йеошуе, сыну Нуна, служителю Моше, говоря: Моше, раб Мой, умер; встань же теперь, перейди через Ярдэн этот, ты и весь народ этот, в землю, которую Я даю им, сынам Исраэля. Всякое место, на которое ступит стопа ноги вашей, даю Я вам, как говорил Я Моше. От пустыни и Леванона этого до реки великой, реки Прата, – всю землю хэтийцев, – и до Великого моря к заходу солнца будут пределы ваши.
Йешайа, (27:12-13): И будет в тот день: обивать будет Г-сподь (плоды Свои) от потока реки (Прат) до реки Египетской, и вы собраны будете по одному, сыны Исраэйля. И будет в тот день: вострубят в великий шофар, и придут пропавшие в земле Ашшурской и заброшенные в землю Египетскую, и будут они поклоняться Г-споду на горе святой в Йерушалаиме.
Стратегической целью развития государства Израиль должен быть выход к этим, обещанным нам Б-гом, границам. Только контроль над всей территорией Земли Израиля обеспечит нам прочный мир. До тех пор, пока мы не поставим перед собой эту цель, будем согласны с тем, что чужие оккупируют хотя бы часть нашей исторической Родины – нас будут преследовать бесконечные войны, в которых нам так и не удастся добиться решающей победы.
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ONLINE RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH TRANSLATOR:
THE NATURAL BOUNDARIES OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
Eretz Yisrael (Land Of Israel), Promised Land
-Coat Of Arms Of The International Movement "Bead Artzeinu, Gipersionistskogo" ("For The Motherland!")
Boundaries from the Nile to the Euphrates is the natural boundaries. They are the natural borders of the region and conform to the laws of geopolitics as a healthy, sustainable, natural boundaries are always on natural boundaries. The boundaries of the land of Israel are on the Taurus Mountains (today's border between Syria and Turkey), the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, the Eastern branch of the Nile Delta, the western edge of the Sinai desert, along the northern edge of the Arabian Desert (one of the most impenetrable deserts in the world) and the Euphrates River.
Reach the mandating of the Torah commandment to borders. According to the list, "Rambana is the fourth commandment. Commanded us to own the land that g-d gave to our forefathers-Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and not leave it in the hands of foreigners, or unoccupied. As it is written, "and harness the Earth and stay on it, because I gave you this land to take possession of it." "And inherit the land which I swore to your fathers." The land within its borders only and specifically pointed it its borders "and go to the Mount of Emory and to all its neighbours on the plain, on the mountain and in the lowland, and on the South and on the coast of the sea"-the report that cannot be dissociated from it nor an inch. "
That the people of Israel will own the whole land of Israel, the Jewish State's existence within this boundary--a pledge Creator:
Bereishit (15: 18): in that day the Lord made a Covenant with Abram, saying: to your descendants I give this land, from the River to the great river, the Misraïm River Prat.
Deuteronomy (1: 7-8): Check and go, and go to the Mount of Emory and to all its neighbours on the plain, on the mountain and in the lowland, and on the South and on the coast of the sea, on land and kenaani to the great stream, Levanon flow to Prat. Look, I gave you the Earth. Go ahead and own the land that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jaakovu, give her them and their posterity after them.
Deuteronomy (11:22 -25): for if you strictly follow all this commandment, which command you execute, to love the Lord your g-d, to go all The way and hold fast to him; Then the Lord put away all these tribes, and on behalf of your master you tribes that bigger and stronger you. Every place where you enter your foot is it from the desert, and Lebanon, on the stream, the stream to the sea, and the Prat Airport extreme will be your limit. No one can stand before you; fear and horror before you establish the Lord your g-d, the entire Earth on which step, as he has promised you.
Joshua (1: 1-4): and was, after the death of Moses, the servant of the yovel, says the l-Rd Jeošue, the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, saying: Moses, my servant is dead; stand up now, please go through this Ârdèn, you and all this people, into the land which I give them to the children of Israel. Every place at which stop your legs set foot, I give you, as I said unto Moses. From the desert to the river of Lebanon and the great river, Prata, all the land of hètijcev, and to the great sea in the sunset are your limits.
(27: 12-13): and in that day will beat the l-Rd (the fruits of their own) from the flow of the River (Prat) to the river of Egypt, and you will be collected one at a time, the sons of Israèjlâ. And in that day will be vostrubât in the great shofar, and missing in the land will come Aššurskoj and abandoned land in the Egyptian, and they worship, the Holy Hill Rd in Jerušalaime.
The strategic goal of the development of the State Israel should yield to those promised us, the limits of g-d. Only the control over the entire territory of the land of Israel will give us lasting peace. As long as we don't put this goal, will agree that strangers are occupying at least part of our historical homeland – we will have endless wars in which we never will be able to achieve a decisive victory.
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Эрец Исраель (Земля Израиля), Земля Обетованная
- Герб Международного Гиперсионистского Движения "Беад Арцейну" ("За Родину!")
Границы от Нила до Евфрата – это естественные границы. Они являются природными границами региона и соответствуют законам геополитики, поскольку здоровые, устойчивые, естественные границы всегда проходят по природным рубежам. Границы Земли Израиля идут по Таврским горам (это и сегодня граница между Сирией и Турцией), побережью Средиземного Моря, восточному рукаву дельты Нила – западному краю Синайской пустыни, по северному краю Аравийской пустыни (одной из самых непроходимых пустынь мира) и по реке Евфрат.
Достигнуть этих границ – предписывающая заповедь Торы. Согласно перечню Рамбана это: "Четвертая заповедь. Заповедано нам владеть землей, которую Б-г дал нашим праотцам - Аврааму, Ицхаку и Яакову, и не оставлять ее в руках иноплеменников, или совсем незаселенной. Как сказано: “И овладейте землею и поселитесь на ней, ибо вам дал Я эту землю, вступить во владение ею”. “И наследуйте землю, о которой Я клялся отцам вашим”. Земля эта внутри ее границ только наша, и специально указал Он ее границы: “И идите к горе эмори и ко всем соседям его на равнине, на горе и в низине, и на юге и на побережье морском” - сообщить, что нельзя отрывать от нее ни пяди".
То, что народ Израиля будет владеть всей территорией Земли Израиля, существование еврейского государства именно в этих граница – есть обещание Создателя:
Берейшит(15: 18): В тот день заключил Господь с Аврамом завет, говоря: Твоему потомству дал я эту землю от реки Мицраима до великой реки, реки Прат.
Дварим (1:7-8): Обратитесь и отправляйтесь в путь, и идите к горе эмори и ко всем соседям его на равнине, на горе и в низине, и на юге и на побережье морском, на землю кенаани и к Леванону до потока великого, потока Прат. Смотри, Я дал пред вами землю. Идите и владейте землей, о которой клялся Господь вашим отцам Аврааму, Ицхаку и Йаакову, дать (ее) им и потомству их после них.
Дварим (11:22-25): Ибо если строго соблюдать будете всю эту заповедь, которую заповедую вам исполнить, любить Господа, Б-га вашего, ходить всеми путями Его и держаться Его; То изгонит Господь все эти племена от лица вашего, и овладеете вы племенами, которые больше и сильнее вас. Всякое место, куда ступит ваша нога, вам будет оно, от пустыни и Леванона, от потока, потока Прат, и до моря крайнего будет предел ваш. Не устоит никто пред вами; страх и ужас пред вами наведет Господь, Б-г ваш, на всю землю, на которую ступите, как говорил Он вам.
Йеошуа (1:1-4): И было, после смерти Моше, раба Г-сподня, сказал Г-сподь Йеошуе, сыну Нуна, служителю Моше, говоря: Моше, раб Мой, умер; встань же теперь, перейди через Ярдэн этот, ты и весь народ этот, в землю, которую Я даю им, сынам Исраэля. Всякое место, на которое ступит стопа ноги вашей, даю Я вам, как говорил Я Моше. От пустыни и Леванона этого до реки великой, реки Прата, – всю землю хэтийцев, – и до Великого моря к заходу солнца будут пределы ваши.
Йешайа, (27:12-13): И будет в тот день: обивать будет Г-сподь (плоды Свои) от потока реки (Прат) до реки Египетской, и вы собраны будете по одному, сыны Исраэйля. И будет в тот день: вострубят в великий шофар, и придут пропавшие в земле Ашшурской и заброшенные в землю Египетскую, и будут они поклоняться Г-споду на горе святой в Йерушалаиме.
Стратегической целью развития государства Израиль должен быть выход к этим, обещанным нам Б-гом, границам. Только контроль над всей территорией Земли Израиля обеспечит нам прочный мир. До тех пор, пока мы не поставим перед собой эту цель, будем согласны с тем, что чужие оккупируют хотя бы часть нашей исторической Родины – нас будут преследовать бесконечные войны, в которых нам так и не удастся добиться решающей победы.
avrom: ЕСТЕСТВЕННЫЕ ГРАНИЦЫ ГОСУДАРСТВА ИЗРАИЛЬ < click
ONLINE RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH TRANSLATOR:
THE NATURAL BOUNDARIES OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
Eretz Yisrael (Land Of Israel), Promised Land
-Coat Of Arms Of The International Movement "Bead Artzeinu, Gipersionistskogo" ("For The Motherland!")
Boundaries from the Nile to the Euphrates is the natural boundaries. They are the natural borders of the region and conform to the laws of geopolitics as a healthy, sustainable, natural boundaries are always on natural boundaries. The boundaries of the land of Israel are on the Taurus Mountains (today's border between Syria and Turkey), the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, the Eastern branch of the Nile Delta, the western edge of the Sinai desert, along the northern edge of the Arabian Desert (one of the most impenetrable deserts in the world) and the Euphrates River.
Reach the mandating of the Torah commandment to borders. According to the list, "Rambana is the fourth commandment. Commanded us to own the land that g-d gave to our forefathers-Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and not leave it in the hands of foreigners, or unoccupied. As it is written, "and harness the Earth and stay on it, because I gave you this land to take possession of it." "And inherit the land which I swore to your fathers." The land within its borders only and specifically pointed it its borders "and go to the Mount of Emory and to all its neighbours on the plain, on the mountain and in the lowland, and on the South and on the coast of the sea"-the report that cannot be dissociated from it nor an inch. "
That the people of Israel will own the whole land of Israel, the Jewish State's existence within this boundary--a pledge Creator:
Bereishit (15: 18): in that day the Lord made a Covenant with Abram, saying: to your descendants I give this land, from the River to the great river, the Misraïm River Prat.
Deuteronomy (1: 7-8): Check and go, and go to the Mount of Emory and to all its neighbours on the plain, on the mountain and in the lowland, and on the South and on the coast of the sea, on land and kenaani to the great stream, Levanon flow to Prat. Look, I gave you the Earth. Go ahead and own the land that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jaakovu, give her them and their posterity after them.
Deuteronomy (11:22 -25): for if you strictly follow all this commandment, which command you execute, to love the Lord your g-d, to go all The way and hold fast to him; Then the Lord put away all these tribes, and on behalf of your master you tribes that bigger and stronger you. Every place where you enter your foot is it from the desert, and Lebanon, on the stream, the stream to the sea, and the Prat Airport extreme will be your limit. No one can stand before you; fear and horror before you establish the Lord your g-d, the entire Earth on which step, as he has promised you.
Joshua (1: 1-4): and was, after the death of Moses, the servant of the yovel, says the l-Rd Jeošue, the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, saying: Moses, my servant is dead; stand up now, please go through this Ârdèn, you and all this people, into the land which I give them to the children of Israel. Every place at which stop your legs set foot, I give you, as I said unto Moses. From the desert to the river of Lebanon and the great river, Prata, all the land of hètijcev, and to the great sea in the sunset are your limits.
(27: 12-13): and in that day will beat the l-Rd (the fruits of their own) from the flow of the River (Prat) to the river of Egypt, and you will be collected one at a time, the sons of Israèjlâ. And in that day will be vostrubât in the great shofar, and missing in the land will come Aššurskoj and abandoned land in the Egyptian, and they worship, the Holy Hill Rd in Jerušalaime.
The strategic goal of the development of the State Israel should yield to those promised us, the limits of g-d. Only the control over the entire territory of the land of Israel will give us lasting peace. As long as we don't put this goal, will agree that strangers are occupying at least part of our historical homeland – we will have endless wars in which we never will be able to achieve a decisive victory.
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huh? okay cool?
what do you want from me?
i'm sorry. i know you don't have a clue what's going on.
i'll say again....i can't help you.
i'm doing what i can.
please don't interrupt the flow of this thread. it's for people that are able to process information and understand what's happening in the world and why.
edit: here grey...something for you, since i noticed your sig.
Galileo Was Wrong < click
k...bubye
what do you want from me?
i'm sorry. i know you don't have a clue what's going on.
i'll say again....i can't help you.
i'm doing what i can.
please don't interrupt the flow of this thread. it's for people that are able to process information and understand what's happening in the world and why.
edit: here grey...something for you, since i noticed your sig.
Galileo Was Wrong < click
k...bubye
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ЕСТЕСТВЕННЫЕ ГРАНИЦЫ ГОСУДАРСТВА ИЗРАИЛЬ
Эрец Исраель (Земля Израиля), Земля Обетованная
- Герб Международного Гиперсионистского Движения "Беад Арцейну" ("За Родину!")
Границы от Нила до Евфрата – это естественные границы. Они являются природными границами региона и соответствуют законам геополитики, поскольку здоровые, устойчивые, естественные границы всегда проходят по природным рубежам. Границы Земли Израиля идут по Таврским горам (это и сегодня граница между Сирией и Турцией), побережью Средиземного Моря, восточному рукаву дельты Нила – западному краю Синайской пустыни, по северному краю Аравийской пустыни (одной из самых непроходимых пустынь мира) и по реке Евфрат.
Достигнуть этих границ – предписывающая заповедь Торы. Согласно перечню Рамбана это: "Четвертая заповедь. Заповедано нам владеть землей, которую Б-г дал нашим праотцам - Аврааму, Ицхаку и Яакову, и не оставлять ее в руках иноплеменников, или совсем незаселенной. Как сказано: “И овладейте землею и поселитесь на ней, ибо вам дал Я эту землю, вступить во владение ею”. “И наследуйте землю, о которой Я клялся отцам вашим”. Земля эта внутри ее границ только наша, и специально указал Он ее границы: “И идите к горе эмори и ко всем соседям его на равнине, на горе и в низине, и на юге и на побережье морском” - сообщить, что нельзя отрывать от нее ни пяди".
То, что народ Израиля будет владеть всей территорией Земли Израиля, существование еврейского государства именно в этих граница – есть обещание Создателя:
Берейшит(15: 18): В тот день заключил Господь с Аврамом завет, говоря: Твоему потомству дал я эту землю от реки Мицраима до великой реки, реки Прат.
Дварим (1:7-8): Обратитесь и отправляйтесь в путь, и идите к горе эмори и ко всем соседям его на равнине, на горе и в низине, и на юге и на побережье морском, на землю кенаани и к Леванону до потока великого, потока Прат. Смотри, Я дал пред вами землю. Идите и владейте землей, о которой клялся Господь вашим отцам Аврааму, Ицхаку и Йаакову, дать (ее) им и потомству их после них.
Дварим (11:22-25): Ибо если строго соблюдать будете всю эту заповедь, которую заповедую вам исполнить, любить Господа, Б-га вашего, ходить всеми путями Его и держаться Его; То изгонит Господь все эти племена от лица вашего, и овладеете вы племенами, которые больше и сильнее вас. Всякое место, куда ступит ваша нога, вам будет оно, от пустыни и Леванона, от потока, потока Прат, и до моря крайнего будет предел ваш. Не устоит никто пред вами; страх и ужас пред вами наведет Господь, Б-г ваш, на всю землю, на которую ступите, как говорил Он вам.
Йеошуа (1:1-4): И было, после смерти Моше, раба Г-сподня, сказал Г-сподь Йеошуе, сыну Нуна, служителю Моше, говоря: Моше, раб Мой, умер; встань же теперь, перейди через Ярдэн этот, ты и весь народ этот, в землю, которую Я даю им, сынам Исраэля. Всякое место, на которое ступит стопа ноги вашей, даю Я вам, как говорил Я Моше. От пустыни и Леванона этого до реки великой, реки Прата, – всю землю хэтийцев, – и до Великого моря к заходу солнца будут пределы ваши.
Йешайа, (27:12-13): И будет в тот день: обивать будет Г-сподь (плоды Свои) от потока реки (Прат) до реки Египетской, и вы собраны будете по одному, сыны Исраэйля. И будет в тот день: вострубят в великий шофар, и придут пропавшие в земле Ашшурской и заброшенные в землю Египетскую, и будут они поклоняться Г-споду на горе святой в Йерушалаиме.
Стратегической целью развития государства Израиль должен быть выход к этим, обещанным нам Б-гом, границам. Только контроль над всей территорией Земли Израиля обеспечит нам прочный мир. До тех пор, пока мы не поставим перед собой эту цель, будем согласны с тем, что чужие оккупируют хотя бы часть нашей исторической Родины – нас будут преследовать бесконечные войны, в которых нам так и не удастся добиться решающей победы.
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ONLINE RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH TRANSLATOR:
THE NATURAL BOUNDARIES OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
Eretz Yisrael (Land Of Israel), Promised Land
-Coat Of Arms Of The International Movement "Bead Artzeinu, Gipersionistskogo" ("For The Motherland!")
Boundaries from the Nile to the Euphrates is the natural boundaries. They are the natural borders of the region and conform to the laws of geopolitics as a healthy, sustainable, natural boundaries are always on natural boundaries. The boundaries of the land of Israel are on the Taurus Mountains (today's border between Syria and Turkey), the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, the Eastern branch of the Nile Delta, the western edge of the Sinai desert, along the northern edge of the Arabian Desert (one of the most impenetrable deserts in the world) and the Euphrates River.
Reach the mandating of the Torah commandment to borders. According to the list, "Rambana is the fourth commandment. Commanded us to own the land that g-d gave to our forefathers-Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and not leave it in the hands of foreigners, or unoccupied. As it is written, "and harness the Earth and stay on it, because I gave you this land to take possession of it." "And inherit the land which I swore to your fathers." The land within its borders only and specifically pointed it its borders "and go to the Mount of Emory and to all its neighbours on the plain, on the mountain and in the lowland, and on the South and on the coast of the sea"-the report that cannot be dissociated from it nor an inch. "
That the people of Israel will own the whole land of Israel, the Jewish State's existence within this boundary--a pledge Creator:
Bereishit (15: 18): in that day the Lord made a Covenant with Abram, saying: to your descendants I give this land, from the River to the great river, the Misraïm River Prat.
Deuteronomy (1: 7-8): Check and go, and go to the Mount of Emory and to all its neighbours on the plain, on the mountain and in the lowland, and on the South and on the coast of the sea, on land and kenaani to the great stream, Levanon flow to Prat. Look, I gave you the Earth. Go ahead and own the land that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jaakovu, give her them and their posterity after them.
Deuteronomy (11:22 -25): for if you strictly follow all this commandment, which command you execute, to love the Lord your g-d, to go all The way and hold fast to him; Then the Lord put away all these tribes, and on behalf of your master you tribes that bigger and stronger you. Every place where you enter your foot is it from the desert, and Lebanon, on the stream, the stream to the sea, and the Prat Airport extreme will be your limit. No one can stand before you; fear and horror before you establish the Lord your g-d, the entire Earth on which step, as he has promised you.
Joshua (1: 1-4): and was, after the death of Moses, the servant of the yovel, says the l-Rd Jeošue, the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, saying: Moses, my servant is dead; stand up now, please go through this Ârdèn, you and all this people, into the land which I give them to the children of Israel. Every place at which stop your legs set foot, I give you, as I said unto Moses. From the desert to the river of Lebanon and the great river, Prata, all the land of hètijcev, and to the great sea in the sunset are your limits.
(27: 12-13): and in that day will beat the l-Rd (the fruits of their own) from the flow of the River (Prat) to the river of Egypt, and you will be collected one at a time, the sons of Israèjlâ. And in that day will be vostrubât in the great shofar, and missing in the land will come Aššurskoj and abandoned land in the Egyptian, and they worship, the Holy Hill Rd in Jerušalaime.
The strategic goal of the development of the State Israel should yield to those promised us, the limits of g-d. Only the control over the entire territory of the land of Israel will give us lasting peace. As long as we don't put this goal, will agree that strangers are occupying at least part of our historical homeland – we will have endless wars in which we never will be able to achieve a decisive victory.
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Эрец Исраель (Земля Израиля), Земля Обетованная
- Герб Международного Гиперсионистского Движения "Беад Арцейну" ("За Родину!")
Границы от Нила до Евфрата – это естественные границы. Они являются природными границами региона и соответствуют законам геополитики, поскольку здоровые, устойчивые, естественные границы всегда проходят по природным рубежам. Границы Земли Израиля идут по Таврским горам (это и сегодня граница между Сирией и Турцией), побережью Средиземного Моря, восточному рукаву дельты Нила – западному краю Синайской пустыни, по северному краю Аравийской пустыни (одной из самых непроходимых пустынь мира) и по реке Евфрат.
Достигнуть этих границ – предписывающая заповедь Торы. Согласно перечню Рамбана это: "Четвертая заповедь. Заповедано нам владеть землей, которую Б-г дал нашим праотцам - Аврааму, Ицхаку и Яакову, и не оставлять ее в руках иноплеменников, или совсем незаселенной. Как сказано: “И овладейте землею и поселитесь на ней, ибо вам дал Я эту землю, вступить во владение ею”. “И наследуйте землю, о которой Я клялся отцам вашим”. Земля эта внутри ее границ только наша, и специально указал Он ее границы: “И идите к горе эмори и ко всем соседям его на равнине, на горе и в низине, и на юге и на побережье морском” - сообщить, что нельзя отрывать от нее ни пяди".
То, что народ Израиля будет владеть всей территорией Земли Израиля, существование еврейского государства именно в этих граница – есть обещание Создателя:
Берейшит(15: 18): В тот день заключил Господь с Аврамом завет, говоря: Твоему потомству дал я эту землю от реки Мицраима до великой реки, реки Прат.
Дварим (1:7-8): Обратитесь и отправляйтесь в путь, и идите к горе эмори и ко всем соседям его на равнине, на горе и в низине, и на юге и на побережье морском, на землю кенаани и к Леванону до потока великого, потока Прат. Смотри, Я дал пред вами землю. Идите и владейте землей, о которой клялся Господь вашим отцам Аврааму, Ицхаку и Йаакову, дать (ее) им и потомству их после них.
Дварим (11:22-25): Ибо если строго соблюдать будете всю эту заповедь, которую заповедую вам исполнить, любить Господа, Б-га вашего, ходить всеми путями Его и держаться Его; То изгонит Господь все эти племена от лица вашего, и овладеете вы племенами, которые больше и сильнее вас. Всякое место, куда ступит ваша нога, вам будет оно, от пустыни и Леванона, от потока, потока Прат, и до моря крайнего будет предел ваш. Не устоит никто пред вами; страх и ужас пред вами наведет Господь, Б-г ваш, на всю землю, на которую ступите, как говорил Он вам.
Йеошуа (1:1-4): И было, после смерти Моше, раба Г-сподня, сказал Г-сподь Йеошуе, сыну Нуна, служителю Моше, говоря: Моше, раб Мой, умер; встань же теперь, перейди через Ярдэн этот, ты и весь народ этот, в землю, которую Я даю им, сынам Исраэля. Всякое место, на которое ступит стопа ноги вашей, даю Я вам, как говорил Я Моше. От пустыни и Леванона этого до реки великой, реки Прата, – всю землю хэтийцев, – и до Великого моря к заходу солнца будут пределы ваши.
Йешайа, (27:12-13): И будет в тот день: обивать будет Г-сподь (плоды Свои) от потока реки (Прат) до реки Египетской, и вы собраны будете по одному, сыны Исраэйля. И будет в тот день: вострубят в великий шофар, и придут пропавшие в земле Ашшурской и заброшенные в землю Египетскую, и будут они поклоняться Г-споду на горе святой в Йерушалаиме.
Стратегической целью развития государства Израиль должен быть выход к этим, обещанным нам Б-гом, границам. Только контроль над всей территорией Земли Израиля обеспечит нам прочный мир. До тех пор, пока мы не поставим перед собой эту цель, будем согласны с тем, что чужие оккупируют хотя бы часть нашей исторической Родины – нас будут преследовать бесконечные войны, в которых нам так и не удастся добиться решающей победы.
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ONLINE RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH TRANSLATOR:
THE NATURAL BOUNDARIES OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
Eretz Yisrael (Land Of Israel), Promised Land
-Coat Of Arms Of The International Movement "Bead Artzeinu, Gipersionistskogo" ("For The Motherland!")
Boundaries from the Nile to the Euphrates is the natural boundaries. They are the natural borders of the region and conform to the laws of geopolitics as a healthy, sustainable, natural boundaries are always on natural boundaries. The boundaries of the land of Israel are on the Taurus Mountains (today's border between Syria and Turkey), the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, the Eastern branch of the Nile Delta, the western edge of the Sinai desert, along the northern edge of the Arabian Desert (one of the most impenetrable deserts in the world) and the Euphrates River.
Reach the mandating of the Torah commandment to borders. According to the list, "Rambana is the fourth commandment. Commanded us to own the land that g-d gave to our forefathers-Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and not leave it in the hands of foreigners, or unoccupied. As it is written, "and harness the Earth and stay on it, because I gave you this land to take possession of it." "And inherit the land which I swore to your fathers." The land within its borders only and specifically pointed it its borders "and go to the Mount of Emory and to all its neighbours on the plain, on the mountain and in the lowland, and on the South and on the coast of the sea"-the report that cannot be dissociated from it nor an inch. "
That the people of Israel will own the whole land of Israel, the Jewish State's existence within this boundary--a pledge Creator:
Bereishit (15: 18): in that day the Lord made a Covenant with Abram, saying: to your descendants I give this land, from the River to the great river, the Misraïm River Prat.
Deuteronomy (1: 7-8): Check and go, and go to the Mount of Emory and to all its neighbours on the plain, on the mountain and in the lowland, and on the South and on the coast of the sea, on land and kenaani to the great stream, Levanon flow to Prat. Look, I gave you the Earth. Go ahead and own the land that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jaakovu, give her them and their posterity after them.
Deuteronomy (11:22 -25): for if you strictly follow all this commandment, which command you execute, to love the Lord your g-d, to go all The way and hold fast to him; Then the Lord put away all these tribes, and on behalf of your master you tribes that bigger and stronger you. Every place where you enter your foot is it from the desert, and Lebanon, on the stream, the stream to the sea, and the Prat Airport extreme will be your limit. No one can stand before you; fear and horror before you establish the Lord your g-d, the entire Earth on which step, as he has promised you.
Joshua (1: 1-4): and was, after the death of Moses, the servant of the yovel, says the l-Rd Jeošue, the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, saying: Moses, my servant is dead; stand up now, please go through this Ârdèn, you and all this people, into the land which I give them to the children of Israel. Every place at which stop your legs set foot, I give you, as I said unto Moses. From the desert to the river of Lebanon and the great river, Prata, all the land of hètijcev, and to the great sea in the sunset are your limits.
(27: 12-13): and in that day will beat the l-Rd (the fruits of their own) from the flow of the River (Prat) to the river of Egypt, and you will be collected one at a time, the sons of Israèjlâ. And in that day will be vostrubât in the great shofar, and missing in the land will come Aššurskoj and abandoned land in the Egyptian, and they worship, the Holy Hill Rd in Jerušalaime.
The strategic goal of the development of the State Israel should yield to those promised us, the limits of g-d. Only the control over the entire territory of the land of Israel will give us lasting peace. As long as we don't put this goal, will agree that strangers are occupying at least part of our historical homeland – we will have endless wars in which we never will be able to achieve a decisive victory.
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It should be noted that in his book, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geo-strategic Imperatives, Zbigniew Brzezinski, a former U.S. National Security Advisor, alluded to the modern Middle East as a control lever of an area he, Brzezinski, calls the Eurasian Balkans. The Eurasian Balkans consists of the Caucasus (Georgia, the Republic of Azerbaijan, and Armenia) and Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan) and to some extent both Iran and Turkey. Iran and Turkey both form the northernmost tiers of the Middle East (excluding the Caucasus4) that edge into Europe and the former Soviet Union.
The Map of the “New Middle East”
A relatively unknown map of the Middle East, NATO-garrisoned Afghanistan, and Pakistan has been circulating around strategic, governmental, NATO, policy and military circles since mid-2006. It has been causally allowed to surface in public, maybe in an attempt to build consensus and to slowly prepare the general public for possible, maybe even cataclysmic, changes in the Middle East. This is a map of a redrawn and restructured Middle East identified as the “New Middle East.”
This map of the “New Middle East” seems to be based on several other maps, including older maps of potential boundaries in the Middle East extending back to the era of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson and World War I. This map is showcased and presented as the brainchild of retired Lieutenant-Colonel (U.S. Army) Ralph Peters, who believes the redesigned borders contained in the map will fundamentally solve the problems of the contemporary Middle East.
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East” | Global Research < click
“Necessary Pain”
Besides believing that there is “cultural stagnation” in the Middle East, it must be noted that Ralph Peters admits that his propositions are “draconian” in nature, but he insists that they are necessary pains for the people of the Middle East. This view of necessary pain and suffering is in startling parallel to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s belief that the devastation of Lebanon by the Israeli military was a necessary pain or “birth pang” in order to create the “New Middle East” that Washington, London, and Tel Aviv envision.
Moreover, it is worth noting that the subject of the Armenian Genocide is being politicized and stimulated in Europe to offend Turkey.7
The overhaul, dismantlement, and reassembly of the nation-states of the Middle East have been packaged as a solution to the hostilities in the Middle East, but this is categorically misleading, false, and fictitious. The advocates of a “New Middle East” and redrawn boundaries in the region avoid and fail to candidly depict the roots of the problems and conflicts in the contemporary Middle East. What the media does not acknowledge is the fact that almost all major conflicts afflicting the Middle East are the consequence of overlapping Anglo-American-Israeli agendas.
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East” | Global Research < click
Besides believing that there is “cultural stagnation” in the Middle East, it must be noted that Ralph Peters admits that his propositions are “draconian” in nature, but he insists that they are necessary pains for the people of the Middle East. This view of necessary pain and suffering is in startling parallel to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s belief that the devastation of Lebanon by the Israeli military was a necessary pain or “birth pang” in order to create the “New Middle East” that Washington, London, and Tel Aviv envision.
Moreover, it is worth noting that the subject of the Armenian Genocide is being politicized and stimulated in Europe to offend Turkey.7
The overhaul, dismantlement, and reassembly of the nation-states of the Middle East have been packaged as a solution to the hostilities in the Middle East, but this is categorically misleading, false, and fictitious. The advocates of a “New Middle East” and redrawn boundaries in the region avoid and fail to candidly depict the roots of the problems and conflicts in the contemporary Middle East. What the media does not acknowledge is the fact that almost all major conflicts afflicting the Middle East are the consequence of overlapping Anglo-American-Israeli agendas.
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East” | Global Research < click
Redrawing the Middle East
The Middle East, in some regards, is a striking parallel to the Balkans and Central-Eastern Europe during the years leading up the First World War. In the wake of the the First World War the borders of the Balkans and Central-Eastern Europe were redrawn. This region experienced a period of upheaval, violence and conflict, before and after World War I, which was the direct result of foreign economic interests and interference.
The reasons behind the First World War are more sinister than the standard school-book explanation, the assassination of the heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian (Habsburg) Empire, Archduke Franz Ferdinand, in Sarajevo. Economic factors were the real motivation for the large-scale war in 1914.
Norman Dodd, a former Wall Street banker and investigator for the U.S. Congress, who examined U.S. tax-exempt foundations, confirmed in a 1982 interview that those powerful individuals who from behind the scenes controlled the finances, policies, and government of the United States had in fact also planned U.S. involvement in a war, which would contribute to entrenching their grip on power.
The following testimonial is from the transcript of Norman Dodd’s interview with G. Edward Griffin;
We are now at the year 1908, which was the year that the Carnegie Foundation began operations. And, in that year, the trustees meeting, for the first time, raised a specific question, which they discussed throughout the balance of the year, in a very learned fashion. And the question is this: Is there any means known more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people? And they conclude that, no more effective means to that end is known to humanity, than war. So then, in 1909, they raise the second question, and discuss it, namely, how do we involve the United States in a war?
Well, I doubt, at that time, if there was any subject more removed from the thinking of most of the people of this country [the United States], than its involvement in a war. There were intermittent shows [wars] in the Balkans, but I doubt very much if many people even knew where the Balkans were. And finally, they answer that question as follows: we must control the State Department.
And then, that very naturally raises the question of how do we do that? They answer it by saying, we must take over and control the diplomatic machinery of this country and, finally, they resolve to aim at that as an objective. Then, time passes, and we are eventually in a war, which would be World War I. At that time, they record on their minutes a shocking report in which they dispatch to President Wilson a telegram cautioning him to see that the war does not end too quickly. And finally, of course, the war is over.
At that time, their interest shifts over to preventing what they call a reversion of life in the United States to what it was prior to 1914, when World War I broke out.
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East” | Global Research < click
The Middle East, in some regards, is a striking parallel to the Balkans and Central-Eastern Europe during the years leading up the First World War. In the wake of the the First World War the borders of the Balkans and Central-Eastern Europe were redrawn. This region experienced a period of upheaval, violence and conflict, before and after World War I, which was the direct result of foreign economic interests and interference.
The reasons behind the First World War are more sinister than the standard school-book explanation, the assassination of the heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian (Habsburg) Empire, Archduke Franz Ferdinand, in Sarajevo. Economic factors were the real motivation for the large-scale war in 1914.
Norman Dodd, a former Wall Street banker and investigator for the U.S. Congress, who examined U.S. tax-exempt foundations, confirmed in a 1982 interview that those powerful individuals who from behind the scenes controlled the finances, policies, and government of the United States had in fact also planned U.S. involvement in a war, which would contribute to entrenching their grip on power.
The following testimonial is from the transcript of Norman Dodd’s interview with G. Edward Griffin;
We are now at the year 1908, which was the year that the Carnegie Foundation began operations. And, in that year, the trustees meeting, for the first time, raised a specific question, which they discussed throughout the balance of the year, in a very learned fashion. And the question is this: Is there any means known more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people? And they conclude that, no more effective means to that end is known to humanity, than war. So then, in 1909, they raise the second question, and discuss it, namely, how do we involve the United States in a war?
Well, I doubt, at that time, if there was any subject more removed from the thinking of most of the people of this country [the United States], than its involvement in a war. There were intermittent shows [wars] in the Balkans, but I doubt very much if many people even knew where the Balkans were. And finally, they answer that question as follows: we must control the State Department.
And then, that very naturally raises the question of how do we do that? They answer it by saying, we must take over and control the diplomatic machinery of this country and, finally, they resolve to aim at that as an objective. Then, time passes, and we are eventually in a war, which would be World War I. At that time, they record on their minutes a shocking report in which they dispatch to President Wilson a telegram cautioning him to see that the war does not end too quickly. And finally, of course, the war is over.
At that time, their interest shifts over to preventing what they call a reversion of life in the United States to what it was prior to 1914, when World War I broke out.
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East” | Global Research < click
The redrawing and partition of the Middle East from the Eastern Mediterranean shores of Lebanon and Syria to Anatolia (Asia Minor), Arabia, the Persian Gulf, and the Iranian Plateau responds to broad economic, strategic and military objectives, which are part of a longstanding Anglo-American and Israeli agenda in the region.
The Middle East has been conditioned by outside forces into a powder keg that is ready to explode with the right trigger, possibly the launching of Anglo-American and/or Israeli air raids against Iran and Syria. A wider war in the Middle East could result in redrawn borders that are strategically advantageous to Anglo-American interests and Israel.
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East” | Global Research < click
Exclusive: Obama authorizes secret U.S. support for Syrian rebels
By Mark Hosenball
WASHINGTON | Wed Aug 1, 2012 5:58pm EDT
(Reuters) - President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.
Obama's order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence "finding," broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.
This and other developments signal a shift toward growing, albeit still circumscribed, support for Assad's armed opponents - a shift that intensified following last month's failure of the U.N. Security Council to agree on tougher sanctions against the Damascus government.
The White House is for now apparently stopping short of giving the rebels lethal weapons, even as some U.S. allies do just that.
But U.S. and European officials have said that there have been noticeable improvements in the coherence and effectiveness of Syrian rebel groups in the past few weeks. That represents a significant change in assessments of the rebels by Western officials, who previously characterized Assad's opponents as a disorganized, almost chaotic, rabble.
Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.
The full extent of clandestine support that agencies like the CIA might be providing also is unclear.
White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined comment.
'NERVE CENTER'
A U.S. government source acknowledged that under provisions of the presidential finding, the United States was collaborating with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.
Last week, Reuters reported that, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military and communications support to Assad's opponents.
This "nerve center" is in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.
Turkey's moderate Islamist government has been demanding Assad's departure with growing vehemence. Turkish authorities are said by current and former U.S. government officials to be increasingly involved in providing Syrian rebels with training and possibly equipment.
European government sources said wealthy families in Saudi Arabia and Qatar were providing significant financing to the rebels. Senior officials of the Saudi and Qatari governments have publicly called for Assad's departure.
On Tuesday, NBC News reported that the Free Syrian Army had obtained nearly two dozen surface-to-air missiles, weapons that could be used against Assad's helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. Syrian government armed forces have employed such air power more extensively in recent days.
Exclusive: Obama authorizes secret U.S. support for Syrian rebels | Reuters < click
The Middle East has been conditioned by outside forces into a powder keg that is ready to explode with the right trigger, possibly the launching of Anglo-American and/or Israeli air raids against Iran and Syria. A wider war in the Middle East could result in redrawn borders that are strategically advantageous to Anglo-American interests and Israel.
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East” | Global Research < click
Exclusive: Obama authorizes secret U.S. support for Syrian rebels
By Mark Hosenball
WASHINGTON | Wed Aug 1, 2012 5:58pm EDT
(Reuters) - President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.
Obama's order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence "finding," broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.
This and other developments signal a shift toward growing, albeit still circumscribed, support for Assad's armed opponents - a shift that intensified following last month's failure of the U.N. Security Council to agree on tougher sanctions against the Damascus government.
The White House is for now apparently stopping short of giving the rebels lethal weapons, even as some U.S. allies do just that.
But U.S. and European officials have said that there have been noticeable improvements in the coherence and effectiveness of Syrian rebel groups in the past few weeks. That represents a significant change in assessments of the rebels by Western officials, who previously characterized Assad's opponents as a disorganized, almost chaotic, rabble.
Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.
The full extent of clandestine support that agencies like the CIA might be providing also is unclear.
White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined comment.
'NERVE CENTER'
A U.S. government source acknowledged that under provisions of the presidential finding, the United States was collaborating with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.
Last week, Reuters reported that, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military and communications support to Assad's opponents.
This "nerve center" is in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.
Turkey's moderate Islamist government has been demanding Assad's departure with growing vehemence. Turkish authorities are said by current and former U.S. government officials to be increasingly involved in providing Syrian rebels with training and possibly equipment.
European government sources said wealthy families in Saudi Arabia and Qatar were providing significant financing to the rebels. Senior officials of the Saudi and Qatari governments have publicly called for Assad's departure.
On Tuesday, NBC News reported that the Free Syrian Army had obtained nearly two dozen surface-to-air missiles, weapons that could be used against Assad's helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. Syrian government armed forces have employed such air power more extensively in recent days.
Exclusive: Obama authorizes secret U.S. support for Syrian rebels | Reuters < click
Warmongering Neocons Demand American Military Intervention in Syria Now!
The reliably belligerent trio of Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Lindsey Graham pen a Washington Post Op-Ed calling for arming the Syrian opposition and imposing a "no-fly zone."
Senators Lieberman and McCain at a Munich security conference.
Photo Credit: Kai Mork/Wikimedia Commons
December 31, 2012 |
As surely as the sun rises from the east, neoconservative senators want more American military involvement in the Middle East. The latest call for more intervention, this time in Syria, is from the reliably belligerent trio of Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Lindsey Graham.
For months, Lieberman, McCain and Graham have been banging their heads against the wall to try and convince people that now is the time to forcefully intervene in what has become a brutal civil war. Today, the Washington Post prints yet another of their calls for military intervention in Syria--five months after publishing an Op-Ed by the same senators that called for intervention in Syria.
The senators get some basic facts right. It is indeed true that “as 2012 draws to a close, Syria is descending into hell. At least 40,000 people, and likely many more, have been killed, while millions have been forced to flee their homes.” The senators also correctly note that “the longer this war grinds on, the greater the chance it could ignite a wider sectarian conflict.”
Additionally, they write that “while recent regime defections and battlefield setbacks suggest that Assad’s hold on power is deteriorating, this conflict could grind on for some time, at an awful and escalating cost to Syria’s people, its neighbors and U.S. interests and prestige.”
All of this is true. But it’s their solution that is deeply problematic. “We must provide weapons and other lethal assistance to the opposition military command,” the senators insist. “We must impose a no-fly zone in some areas of Syria, to include using the U.S. Patriot missile batteries en route to Turkey, to protect people in northern Syria from Assad’s aerial attacks.”
Let’s translate: the senators want the U.S. to send weapons to an opposition in Syria that includes radical jihadists. When the U.S. approved a plan for Qatar to send weapons to Libyan fighters, “American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants.” That concern “has taken on new urgency as the administration considers whether to play a direct role in arming rebels in Syria, where weapons are flowing in from Qatar and other countries,” as The New York Times reported earlier this month.
The neoconservative trio is also advocating for a “no-fly zone,” presumably with the U.S. in the lead of implementing that plan. That would inevitably mean U.S. fighter jets strafing Syria and perhaps attacking the Syrian military to reinforce the “no-fly zone.” Once that happens, U.S. involvement in Syria becomes inextricable, and further militarizes a conflict that has descended into armed chaos.
And there’s also the salient fact that Senators Lieberman, McCain and Graham are primarily concerned with American hegemony in the region--not the rights of the Syrian people. The Syrian uprising for democracy has been turned into a conduit for how the U.S. can overthrow Assad and deal a blow to Iran. If the U.S. becomes more involved, as these senators wish, it will be with the express purpose of shaping a new Syrian regime to bend to the interests of the U.S. and Israel. That will still happen without direct U.S. military intervention, but the chances of its success with American planes in the sky increase exponentially.
There's no doubt that the Syrian people deserve democracy, but is U.S. military involvement the way to secure that? The answer is no.
As Middle East analyst Mitchell Plitnick observed in AlterNet, “the advocates for US intervention in Syria are represented by a coalition of the same strange bedfellows that pushed for an invasion of Iraq a decade ago: neoconservatives and liberal hawks.” They’re trying to fool the American people again.
Warmongering Neocons Demand American Military Intervention in Syria Now! | Alternet < click
The reliably belligerent trio of Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Lindsey Graham pen a Washington Post Op-Ed calling for arming the Syrian opposition and imposing a "no-fly zone."
Senators Lieberman and McCain at a Munich security conference.
Photo Credit: Kai Mork/Wikimedia Commons
December 31, 2012 |
As surely as the sun rises from the east, neoconservative senators want more American military involvement in the Middle East. The latest call for more intervention, this time in Syria, is from the reliably belligerent trio of Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Lindsey Graham.
For months, Lieberman, McCain and Graham have been banging their heads against the wall to try and convince people that now is the time to forcefully intervene in what has become a brutal civil war. Today, the Washington Post prints yet another of their calls for military intervention in Syria--five months after publishing an Op-Ed by the same senators that called for intervention in Syria.
The senators get some basic facts right. It is indeed true that “as 2012 draws to a close, Syria is descending into hell. At least 40,000 people, and likely many more, have been killed, while millions have been forced to flee their homes.” The senators also correctly note that “the longer this war grinds on, the greater the chance it could ignite a wider sectarian conflict.”
Additionally, they write that “while recent regime defections and battlefield setbacks suggest that Assad’s hold on power is deteriorating, this conflict could grind on for some time, at an awful and escalating cost to Syria’s people, its neighbors and U.S. interests and prestige.”
All of this is true. But it’s their solution that is deeply problematic. “We must provide weapons and other lethal assistance to the opposition military command,” the senators insist. “We must impose a no-fly zone in some areas of Syria, to include using the U.S. Patriot missile batteries en route to Turkey, to protect people in northern Syria from Assad’s aerial attacks.”
Let’s translate: the senators want the U.S. to send weapons to an opposition in Syria that includes radical jihadists. When the U.S. approved a plan for Qatar to send weapons to Libyan fighters, “American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants.” That concern “has taken on new urgency as the administration considers whether to play a direct role in arming rebels in Syria, where weapons are flowing in from Qatar and other countries,” as The New York Times reported earlier this month.
The neoconservative trio is also advocating for a “no-fly zone,” presumably with the U.S. in the lead of implementing that plan. That would inevitably mean U.S. fighter jets strafing Syria and perhaps attacking the Syrian military to reinforce the “no-fly zone.” Once that happens, U.S. involvement in Syria becomes inextricable, and further militarizes a conflict that has descended into armed chaos.
And there’s also the salient fact that Senators Lieberman, McCain and Graham are primarily concerned with American hegemony in the region--not the rights of the Syrian people. The Syrian uprising for democracy has been turned into a conduit for how the U.S. can overthrow Assad and deal a blow to Iran. If the U.S. becomes more involved, as these senators wish, it will be with the express purpose of shaping a new Syrian regime to bend to the interests of the U.S. and Israel. That will still happen without direct U.S. military intervention, but the chances of its success with American planes in the sky increase exponentially.
There's no doubt that the Syrian people deserve democracy, but is U.S. military involvement the way to secure that? The answer is no.
As Middle East analyst Mitchell Plitnick observed in AlterNet, “the advocates for US intervention in Syria are represented by a coalition of the same strange bedfellows that pushed for an invasion of Iraq a decade ago: neoconservatives and liberal hawks.” They’re trying to fool the American people again.
Warmongering Neocons Demand American Military Intervention in Syria Now! | Alternet < click
So that's what you think you see. She's not talking about 144,000 that will be delivered, but all the others that will one day be destroyed at the end time judgment. Blood libel...... that's rather strong wording, don't you think? If I were you, I wouldn't make a habit of that if you want to stay on here...... just sayin'
shouting? hardly.
anyone who is honest, remotely familiar with the subject and has anything to contribute is free to post.
conspiracy theorist and blood libel are contributions of a sort.
thanks for identifying yourself.
i know where that garbage comes from.
don't know why you haven't figured out those slurs are empty and meaningless.
you have overused them until they are parodies.
and signals that somebody has something they don't want examined.
helpful to my case
keep using them...by all means.
grey....there's one thing i find intolerable above all others: suppression of investigation.
the more people try to lie or cover-up, particularly using those old techniques, the more evident it is we're looking right at the thing.
intimidation and bill ayer's ridicule playbook don't work on me.
why? because i studied them.
poor you.
anyone who is honest, remotely familiar with the subject and has anything to contribute is free to post.
conspiracy theorist and blood libel are contributions of a sort.
thanks for identifying yourself.
i know where that garbage comes from.
don't know why you haven't figured out those slurs are empty and meaningless.
you have overused them until they are parodies.
and signals that somebody has something they don't want examined.
helpful to my case
keep using them...by all means.
grey....there's one thing i find intolerable above all others: suppression of investigation.
the more people try to lie or cover-up, particularly using those old techniques, the more evident it is we're looking right at the thing.
intimidation and bill ayer's ridicule playbook don't work on me.
why? because i studied them.
poor you.
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