THREE REASONS TRUMP IS SURGING IN THE POLLS

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Donald Trump 's surge in the polls isn't just the result of the usual bump presidential candidates historically enjoy after they sew up the primary battles and earn the "presumptive nominee" title. And it's also not just the result of Hillary Clinton 's mistakes, even though she is making some serious campaign errors right now. What has been happening over the last few weeks is that Trump has changed his attack and messaging in a subtle but effective way, so subtle that many pundits may have missed it. But here are the three things Trump is doing very well right now:



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So all Mitt Romney needed to do was think of a clever name to call President Obama. Brilliant.


I can think of three reasons Trump will lose.

1) He won't flip blue states to red states.

2) Hispanics hate him more than they disliked Romney

3) Women do not like him either.


Start a new thread and ask people to explain how Trump can flip blue states to red states. How he can win the Hispanic vote. Hispanics do not know or care about Wall Street donations to Hillary. They will vote for the candidate who says they will not build a wall and will make it easier for illegals to become citizens. Not particularly complex, yet Romney and McCain failed to understand that. Trump will get less votes from Hispanics than almost any Republican who ever ran for President.

 
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This is false. A society would need to be preconditioned to accept an anarchist society, just like people needed to be trained and indoctrinated with the idea of democracy. How silly of an idea is it for 49% of a population to have to follow the rules and regulation of the 51%. Anyone can see that is a stupid idea.
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The only time it really worked was in Catalonia. They couldn't keep it very long though. It's been proven to work I would concede but it has never been proven to be sustainable.
 
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I'll add that my disdain for police/government and thirst for freedom began at the tender age of 4 when I watched 73 men, women, and children burn to death on live TV by your wonderful heroes in blue...in my ninja turtle underwear. And then in later years I proceeded to watch as nobody batted an eye. No apologies. No regrets. Just pay raises and pats on the back for a job well done.

My political worldview isn't due to some personal event. It isn't because I was caught and arrested for being a piece of scum. I'm a poster boy for squeaky clean records. I have just watched innocent people get falsely railed for crimes that shouldn't even be crimes.

Also, That's why I don't buy the whole "soldiers are fighting for our freedom" bull. Where was the freedom for the babies in Waco Tx? Where was the freedom for the 12 year old boy and woman carrying an infant at Ruby Ridge?
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When a drug addict becomes a Christian, they are still addicted to drugs. To both non-believers and other Christians, they don't look or act much like Christians. Same is true when an idiot or hate monger who has no respect for law enforcement officers, becomes a Christian (or merely professes to be saved). They make statements like you have and other Christians cringe, knowing they are the worst possible testimony for Christ that they could ever be.

David Koresh is a murderer and is solely responsible for the deaths of his cult followers. He set the fire and his followers murdered law enforcement officers. Many cult members took advantage of the opportunity to flee the compound and others chose to die and face eternal judgment and separation from God.

Ruby Ridge was a family of gun runners who shot at law enforcement officers and refused to comply with lawful commands. They were criminals. You shoot at law enforcement officers, you deserve to die.
 
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When a drug addict becomes a Christian, they are still addicted to drugs. To both non-believers and other Christians, they don't look or act much like Christians. Same is true when an idiot or hate monger who has no respect for law enforcement officers, becomes a Christian (or merely professes to be saved). They make statements like you have and other Christians cringe, knowing they are the worst possible testimony for Christ that they could ever be.

David Koresh is a murderer and is solely responsible for the deaths of his cult followers. He set the fire and his followers murdered law enforcement officers. Many cult members took advantage of the opportunity to flee the compound and others chose to die and face eternal judgment and separation from God.

Ruby Ridge was a family of gun runners who shot at law enforcement officers and refused to comply with lawful commands. They were criminals. You shoot at law enforcement officers, you deserve to die.
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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. People trying to leave were shot at until they ducked back into the building. Most weren't given the option to escape. The cops were firing flammable CS gas into the building and then firing into it.

At Ruby Ridge the cops arrived without announcing they were cops. Killed the man's dog, his 12 year old son, and SNIPED his unarmed wife holding an infant child while standing in the FRONT DOOR.

In both cases it was the cops who drew first blood. Any cops who got hit during those events were begging for it.

Instead of grabbing the few people they were after while those people were on the streets, they decided to make examples of their entire families. So you can go ahead and crawl right back under that righteous rock you crawled out from, because very few people will buy the blatant lie you just told.
 
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Democracy is broken, because it has ceased to be democratic. Electing one leader(who must have a lot of money to compete) is a bad idea. Electing representatives via proportional represntation, removing private company and corporate campaign donations, and making every decision referendum is the only way to achieve true democracy. Most normal people are locked out of having any real control right now, because politics is a members' club and money and partisan party politics usually dictate the candidates and the voting distribution. It's all very fixed and inaccessible.
 
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You are using bits and pieces of truth to paint the picture you want displayed.

he Waco siege was a siege of a compound belonging to the religious group Branch Davidians by American federal and Texas state law enforcement and US military between February 28 and April 19, 1993.[SUP][4][/SUP] The Branch Davidians, a sect that separated in 1955 from the Seventh-day Adventist Church, was led by David Koresh and lived at Mount Carmel Center ranch in the community of Elk, Texas,[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] nine miles (14 kilometers) east-northeast of Waco. The group was suspected of weapons violations, causing a search and arrest warrant to be obtained by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).
The incident began when the ATF attempted to raid the ranch. An intense gun battle erupted, resulting in the deaths of four government agents and six Branch Davidians. Upon the ATF's failure to raid the compound, a siege was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation(FBI), the standoff lasting 51 days.

Waco siege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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You are using bits and pieces of truth to paint the picture you want displayed.

he Waco siege was a siege of a compound belonging to the religious group Branch Davidians by American federal and Texas state law enforcement and US military between February 28 and April 19, 1993.[SUP][4][/SUP] The Branch Davidians, a sect that separated in 1955 from the Seventh-day Adventist Church, was led by David Koresh and lived at Mount Carmel Center ranch in the community of Elk, Texas,[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] nine miles (14 kilometers) east-northeast of Waco. The group was suspected of weapons violations, causing a search and arrest warrant to be obtained by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).
The incident began when the ATF attempted to raid the ranch. An intense gun battle erupted, resulting in the deaths of four government agents and six Branch Davidians. Upon the ATF's failure to raid the compound, a siege was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation(FBI), the standoff lasting 51 days.

Waco siege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Lol you do realize that you are using wikipedia to present "facts" right?
 
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Sorry it wont let me edit. I was going to add:

I've written research papers on the topic and seen documentaries with video footage. I would recommend "Rules of Engagement" to better understand what wonderful people cops are. I'd post it here but I'll get banned because it cusses and there's some nudity (from cops mooning the compound). Look it up fast though cause idk how long youtube is going to allow a full 2 hour documentary to be up haha.
 
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Sorry it wont let me edit. I was going to add:

I've written research papers on the topic and seen documentaries with video footage. I would recommend "Rules of Engagement" to better understand what wonderful people cops are. I'd post it here but I'll get banned because it cusses and there's some nudity (from cops mooning the compound). Look it up fast though cause idk how long youtube is going to allow a full 2 hour documentary to be up haha.
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Two years ago I started a thread called Rules of Engagement.
 
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Yea ever since watching an unarmed mentally ill man going through mental distress with like fifteen cops around his stationary car, which was blockaded in by four or more police vehicles, and seeing how they tazered and beat him and then when he freaked out and put his foot on the pedal (though his car was jammed in and he couldn't actually go anywhere), they shot him nearly 50 times, I've come to the conclusion that every one of those American cops were severely underqualified and ill-equipped for their jobs.

Cops in Britain would blockade him in and open the driver door the same way the American cops did, but not in a million years would they beat and taze him and then shoot him dead. All they had to do, once he was blockaded, was take his keys from the ignition, remove him from the vehicle, ask his distressed neighbour (who was videoing the incident) to come from her house and help calm him down, and call and ambulance. He needed medical attention and what he got was a horrific execution.
 
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All these recent stories of kids as young as five being arrested in schools, high school kids being beaten or slam-dunkedby police inside classrooms and in the schoolyard, for simple things like wanting to speak to a head-teacher or refusing to do classwork. It is insane. Even with video evidence, these cops get away with needlessly brutalizing and sometimes even murdering unarmed citizens.
 
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Wow so I've been poking the internet and have found that many of the truthful Waco pages have been taken down and it's become a "mystery" event (did the government do it or no?).

It's amazing how much history can be erased in just a few years. It makes me wonder how many other Waco massacres there have been in the U.S.
 
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Bushido8000 said:
I'll add that my disdain for police/government and thirst for freedom began at the tender age of 4 when I watched 73 men, women, and children burn to death on live TV by your wonderful heroes in blue...in my ninja turtle underwear. And then in later years I proceeded to watch as nobody batted an eye. No apologies. No regrets. Just pay raises and pats on the back for a job well done.

My political worldview isn't due to some personal event. It isn't because I was caught and arrested for being a piece of scum. I'm a poster boy for squeaky clean records. I have just watched innocent people get falsely railed for crimes that shouldn't even be crimes.

Also, That's why I don't buy the whole "soldiers are fighting for our freedom" bull. Where was the freedom for the babies in Waco Tx? Where was the freedom for the 12 year old boy and woman carrying an infant at Ruby Ridge?
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Police officers probably sense the "disdain" and treat you accordingly....as a threat. And you blame them for it? I've had crabby officers but I've never in my entire life been mistreated by one. Sometimes people forget the common denominator in their life experiences.
 
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Police officers probably sense the "disdain" and treat you accordingly....as a threat. And you blame them for it? I've had crabby officers but I've never in my entire life been mistreated by one. Sometimes people forget the common denominator in their life experiences.
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Disdain? Many people here have disdain for police, too. It doesn't give the police carte blanche to act as executioners. They are there to provide a public service at the behest of the public. It comes with risks, sure, but they know that when they sign up and they ought still to act like professional, sensible human beings. Killing innocents isn't part of their mandate. If anything they've brought disdain upon themselves. You ought to outsource your police training to countries who know what they're doing because it isn't working. Short, fat, unfit, angry, balding buffoons with itchy trigger fingers shouldn't be allowed to join the police force in the first place. If you can't catch a peep without shooting him in the back or cant distinguish between innocents and perpetrators, you need to find another job.
 
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Disdain? Many people here have disdain for police, too. It doesn't give the police carte blanche to act as executioners. They are there to provide a public service at the behest of the public. It comes with risks, sure, but they know that when they sign up and they ought still to act like professional, sensible human beings. Killing innocents isn't part of their mandate. If anything they've brought disdain upon themselves. You ought to outsource your police training to countries who know what they're doing because it isn't working. Short, fat, unfit, angry, balding buffoons with itchy trigger fingers shouldn't be allowed to join the police force in the first place. If you can't catch a peep without shooting him in the back or cant distinguish between innocents and perpetrators, you need to find another job.
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You talk like they kill innocent people everyday. Love to see your stats on that.
 
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I can also provide you with statistics that compare the UK and US for violent crime/rape/incarceration rates by race and crime/general violent crime rates. The long and short is:

America is more violent (largely the to the status of firearms); American police are considerably more brutal; and American police employment criteria are considerably more lax. All this results in inadequate policing procedures, astonishing levels of incarceration and reoffending, and a disjoint between policing and community safety.
 
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The US is backing no tolerance, military style policing and easy access to firearms, at the expense of safety and protection of innocent people.
 
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The US is backing no tolerance, military style policing and easy access to firearms, at the expense of safety and protection of innocent people.
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Really? The only people I see them using unwarranted deadly force on are ranchers trying to hang onto their their land...and those are fed agencies. Looks like the blm and others can loot and flip cop cars over with abandon.
 
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I challenge you to spend two weeks in any Western European country, and see how differently police approach their jobs. I've lived in Germany, the UK and Ireland. In Ireland especially, police endeavour to connect with communities. You get stopped for a minor traffic violation and they have the sense to sit on your car bonnet with you and have a friendly chat about why your were speeding or why you went through that red light. I've never had a speeding ticket and Ive always come away from police encounters with the profound sense that not only do they care that I did something dangerous, they also care that I'm a human being. Interactions like that give me pause to think the next time I consider topping the speed limits. I've only ever been stopped for speeding once, and I never did it again.
 
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