Trump Is The Swamp

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RickyZ

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It's curious that so many are now up-in-arms about Facebook giving away data to be used to sway the election.

What they ought to be up-in-arms about is the propensity of so many people to be swayed by the resulting sound bites and catchy memes, instead of investigating and voting based on facts.

Thanks liberals, for dumbing down the world!

Thanks conservatives, for taking advantage of people's dumbness!

I'll take my chances with the Ross Perots. How much worse could it get?
 

notuptome

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It's curious that so many are now up-in-arms about Facebook giving away data to be used to sway the election.

What they ought to be up-in-arms about is the propensity of so many people to be swayed by the resulting sound bites and catchy memes, instead of investigating and voting based on facts.

Thanks liberals, for dumbing down the world!

Thanks conservatives, for taking advantage of people's dumbness!

I'll take my chances with the Ross Perots. How much worse could it get?
Stand by it will be at your doorstep very soon.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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SpoonJuly

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Isn't this the same line of logic Trump supporters use against those who scream "not my president"? "Do you live in the U.S.?If so, Donald Trump is your president." The people voted for Trump, whether some liked it or not. It is no diffeeent than the people electing Obama, whether the people liked it or not. I was 17 when Obama won his first presidency, and I wasn't registered to vote yet for his second. In neither one did I vote for him, but he was still my president. Also, you seem to miss my main point. People say they don't care about what Trump says or does because he wasn't elected to be a pope. These same people criticize Obama for performing non Christian acts. They're being hypocrites.
No, you miss the point. The people did not elect anyone. SOME of the people elected Obama, Trump, and every other elected official. That means that SOME did not vote for the one who was elected. That is what free elections are all about.

Every president has been criticized by those who did not vote for him, and even some who did. That is our right as voters.
That is the American way. Nothing new here. It ain't gonna change.
 
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SpoonJuly

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It's curious that so many are now up-in-arms about Facebook giving away data to be used to sway the election.

What they ought to be up-in-arms about is the propensity of so many people to be swayed by the resulting sound bites and catchy memes, instead of investigating and voting based on facts.

Thanks liberals, for dumbing down the world!

Thanks conservatives, for taking advantage of people's dumbness!

I'll take my chances with the Ross Perots. How much worse could it get?
It is frightening just how easy the average voter can be deceived and swayed by the media.
Does no one think for themselves any more?
 

Billyd

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Have any of you thought about what really happens when you drain the swamp? The swamp creatures move into the adjoining communities and take over.

We would be much better off if we fenced the swamp creatures in and improve our own communities.
 

notuptome

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It is frightening just how easy the average voter can be deceived and swayed by the media.
Does no one think for themselves any more?
Have we forgotten that it is God who sets up those in government?

Pray we receive mercy and not what we deserve. Pray that others will begin to see the difference.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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SpoonJuly

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Have we forgotten that it is God who sets up those in government?

Pray we receive mercy and not what we deserve. Pray that others will begin to see the difference.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Sometimes God ALLOWES the government we deserve.
Our present situation just shows how wicked we have become.
 

RickyZ

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It is frightening just how easy the average voter can be deceived and swayed by the media.
Does no one think for themselves any more?
They don't think, period.
 

RickyZ

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Have we forgotten that it is God who sets up those in government?

Pray we receive mercy and not what we deserve. Pray that others will begin to see the difference.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
And that goes back to what I said earlier... the world is on a march to a one world ruler, and for us to think it's going to be led there by a string of God-fearing people is naive. So we shouldn't be surprised that the world is being led by swamp monsters, nor should we expect that to change. All we can do is get ready for it - I mean, for those who believe they're going to see it.
 

prove-all

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Jan. 14, 2014 President Barack Obama urged his cabinet to help him identify ways
to advance economic recovery by circumventing the legislature.

“We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need,” the president told reporters before his cabinet meeting. “I’ve got a pen, and I’ve got a phone. And I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward in helping to make sure our kids are getting the best education possible, making sure that our businesses are getting the kind of support and help they need to grow and advance, to make sure that people are getting the skills that they need to get those jobs that our businesses are creating.”


No president since World War ii has openly justified executive overreach by saying that it was
necessary to circumvent legislatures because they refused to do what he wanted!
In saying this, President Obama was articulating the philosophy that has increasingly defined
his presidency: I can’t wait for Congress to do its job, so where it won’t act, I will.

Two weeks later, during his State of the Union address, President Obama notified both houses
of Congress of his decision to go it alone in areas where they refused to act to his satisfaction.

One would think an announcement in such blatant violation of America’s tripartite system of checks
and balances would elicit an outcry, or at least stunned silence. Instead, the floor of the House of
Representatives erupted in thunderous applause. It really looked like America’s lawmakers were
delighted at the notion of a president usurping unprecedented and unchecked powers at their expense.


Georgetown law professor Jonathan Turley warned of the danger behind this executive power grab.
“The system of separation of powers was not created to protect the authority of each branch for its
own sake,” he wrote in a Los Angles Times editorial. “Rather, it is the primary protection of individual
rights because it prevents the concentration of power in any one branch. In this sense, Obama is not
simply posing a danger to the constitutional system; he has become the very danger that separation
of powers was designed to avoid” (March 9, 2014).

In the same editorial, Turley warned: “The United States is at a constitutional tipping point: the rise
of an über-presidency unchecked by the other two branches.” America has moved into a dangerous
era where the only constraints on presidential power are no longer constitutional—merely political.

Expanding Executive Privilege

As president, Obama has modified and ignored various provisions of the Affordable Care Act with
barely a pretense of legality. He has launched a military campaign in Libya without congressional
approval. He has appointed “czars” as a means to evade the constitutional requirement that the
Senate confirm high-level government officials.

President Obama substituting “executive actions” for executive orders. Unlike executive orders,
which are issued as an official cataloged transcript, executive actions are informal orders from the
president to his underlings in the executive branch. Judge and judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano
recently warned that issuing executive actions instead of executive orders could make it “more
difficult and cumbersome” to legally challenge the president’s decisions.

He also has asserted the right to kill American citizens without due process
if a “high-level official” says they pose an imminent threat to the nation.


When confronted in 2014 about his record of executive overreach, the president taunted his critics:
“Middle-class families can’t wait for Republicans in Congress to do stuff. So sue me.”

President Obama issued executive action on immigration policy. He instructed the executive branch
of government to offer temporary legal status to millions of illegal immigrants. This order unilaterally
enacted immigration reform that congressional lawmakers wouldn’t enact themselves. President
Obama’s action was historic in that Congress had already declined to pass an immigration reform bill.

When hecklers interrupted one of his speeches by demanding an immediate end to all deportations,
the president responded by saying, “What you’re not paying attention to is the fact that I just took
an action to change the law.”


Under the U.S. Constitution, Congress writes laws, the court interprets laws, and the president
enforces those laws. Executive action is not illegal as long as it falls within the parameters of
enforcing laws already passed by the legislature. Creating new law via executive fiat, however,
is the very definition of an imperial presidency!
 

prove-all

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The president’s power to direct the executive branch to take legislative action is even more
worrying when you realize how big, and dangerously off kilter, the executive branch has
become over the last century.


Today, there are about 30,000 federal employees in the legislature branch, 32,000 staff members in
the judicial branch and an astounding 2,618,000 non-military workers in the executive branch—
spread across 15 departments, 69 agencies and 383 non-military subcommittees!

“The growing dominance of the federal government over the states has obscured more fundamental
changes within the federal government itself,” wrote Turley in a Washington Post editorial. “It is
not just bigger, it is dangerously off kilter. Our carefully constructed system of checks and balances
is being negated by the rise of a fourth branch, an administrative state of sprawling departments and
agencies that govern with increasing autonomy and decreasing transparency” (March 24, 2013).

This so-called fourth branch of government now has a larger impact on American citizens than the
other three branches combined. The legislative branch no longer issues the vast majority of “laws”
governing the United States. Instead, these “laws” are issued as “regulations” crafted by thousands
of unelected, unreachable bureaucrats.

In a telling speech given on Constitution Day in 2010, Harvard professor Michael Klarman condemned
conservatives of “constitutional idolatry,”citing the rise of the administrative state as both unconstitu-
tional and necessary for the good of the country. “The framers set up three branches of government
—executive, legislative and judicial,” he said.

“But today we have a vitally important fourth branch—the administrative state—which is almost
certainly unconstitutional in multiple ways according to the original design of the framers.

MAY 2016 Rise of the Superpresident
https://www.thetrumpet.com/13711-rise-of-the-superpresident
 

jsr1221

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No, you miss the point. The people did not elect anyone. SOME of the people elected Obama, Trump, and every other elected official. That means that SOME did not vote for the one who was elected. That is what free elections are all about.

Every president has been criticized by those who did not vote for him, and even some who did. That is our right as voters.
That is the American way. Nothing new here. It ain't gonna change.
You miss my point. These protesters who chant "not my president" for Trump are called snowflakes. Trump is still their president. How are they snowflakes for that, but it was okay for folks to witch and moan about Obama while saying he's not their president? You can't have it both ways.
 
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loyaldisciple

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Trump isn't a Christian. Neither is Obummer, Clinton, or either Bush..
Maybe not, but he isn't a globalist either willing to sell your children's future to the highest bidder for a couple of bucks.
 
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loyaldisciple

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I think you've descended into gross hyperbole... (how's THAT for hyperbole?).... seriously, "licking the floor he walks on" ?

There is nothing wrong with being a strong supporter of a president. I mean, look at all the people that were "Obama can do no wrong" people... and that was not based on anything he DID, but solely on the fact that he was "black".... (actually half black... or half white, depending on your approach)

If you think that being supportive of a president that is interested in the betterment of our nation somehow means you have chosen being "American over Christian", then I think you should stay completely out of politics. You will NEVER have a candidate/president that makes all his decisions based on it being the "Christian" thing to do. That reduces the US to the level of "theocracy".

Someone else said this, and I agree.... we did not elect a pope, we elected a president.
Pretty good actually until the last part. Making decisions based upon whether it is the "Christian" thing to do never "reduces" anyone to anything. People just need to understand that being "Christian" does not mean running and hiding under a table. Sometimes being Christian means it's time to draw your sword and fight.
 

prove-all

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The Constitution is the foundation of our republic. And the Ten Commandments were, in many
ways, the foundation of the Constitution. - But [Jesus] knew their thoughts, and said to them:


"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation,
and every city or house divided against itself will not stand".


There is A War going on Against the U.S. Constitution.
Will America soon fall into A civil war ?


Movements to take President Trump down, will in effect
really be taking all of America down in the process!