Trumps transformation.
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less of a "transformation" and more of a "revealing" IMHO.
the paint has been flaking off the GOP's claim to be the 'party of the church' all year. a facade. it's the one thing that's been satisfying for me about this entire shenanigan: how much it's being laid bare that the republican party is not and never has been the 'christian' party: they are a secular party, and just as morally bankrupt as any given democrat, only in the aggregate they tend to be immoral in a different way.
giving gifts to the rich and trampling the poor is just as wicked as excusing deviance. it's condemning the innocent, or it's letting the guilty go free. and both are full of humanistic pride. both sides.
they are humanistic, secular politics.
we, if we are in Christ, are from a different kingdom.
when these people mention Jesus, they are trying to buy your vote. we shouldn't be deceived by this... but so many are! are they really of us? and that's the worst part of all this for me, and the good part: the worst, because so many are deceived, and the best, because many are becoming undeceived, because this cycle has been so transparently wrong that it's become so very hard to pretend any believer is voting R because of actual moral reasons.
secular partisanship.
hate.
fear.
propaganda.
i hate all these things:
but coming clean --
i do like the coming clean bit. the opening of eyes
the paint has been flaking off the GOP's claim to be the 'party of the church' all year. a facade. it's the one thing that's been satisfying for me about this entire shenanigan: how much it's being laid bare that the republican party is not and never has been the 'christian' party: they are a secular party, and just as morally bankrupt as any given democrat, only in the aggregate they tend to be immoral in a different way.
giving gifts to the rich and trampling the poor is just as wicked as excusing deviance. it's condemning the innocent, or it's letting the guilty go free. and both are full of humanistic pride. both sides.
they are humanistic, secular politics.
we, if we are in Christ, are from a different kingdom.
when these people mention Jesus, they are trying to buy your vote. we shouldn't be deceived by this... but so many are! are they really of us? and that's the worst part of all this for me, and the good part: the worst, because so many are deceived, and the best, because many are becoming undeceived, because this cycle has been so transparently wrong that it's become so very hard to pretend any believer is voting R because of actual moral reasons.
secular partisanship.
hate.
fear.
propaganda.
i hate all these things:
I hate every false way
(Psalm 119:104, 128)
(Psalm 119:104, 128)
but coming clean --
i do like the coming clean bit. the opening of eyes
less of a "transformation" and more of a "revealing" IMHO.
the paint has been flaking off the GOP's claim to be the 'party of the church' all year. a facade. it's the one thing that's been satisfying for me about this entire shenanigan: how much it's being laid bare that the republican party is not and never has been the 'christian' party: they are a secular party, and just as morally bankrupt as any given democrat, only in the aggregate they tend to be immoral in a different way.
giving gifts to the rich and trampling the poor is just as wicked as excusing deviance. it's condemning the innocent, or it's letting the guilty go free. and both are full of humanistic pride. both sides.
they are humanistic, secular politics.
we, if we are in Christ, are from a different kingdom.
when these people mention Jesus, they are trying to buy your vote. we shouldn't be deceived by this... but so many are! are they really of us? and that's the worst part of all this for me, and the good part: the worst, because so many are deceived, and the best, because many are becoming undeceived, because this cycle has been so transparently wrong that it's become so very hard to pretend any believer is voting R because of actual moral reasons.
secular partisanship.
hate.
fear.
propaganda.
i hate all these things:
but coming clean --
i do like the coming clean bit. the opening of eyes
the paint has been flaking off the GOP's claim to be the 'party of the church' all year. a facade. it's the one thing that's been satisfying for me about this entire shenanigan: how much it's being laid bare that the republican party is not and never has been the 'christian' party: they are a secular party, and just as morally bankrupt as any given democrat, only in the aggregate they tend to be immoral in a different way.
giving gifts to the rich and trampling the poor is just as wicked as excusing deviance. it's condemning the innocent, or it's letting the guilty go free. and both are full of humanistic pride. both sides.
they are humanistic, secular politics.
we, if we are in Christ, are from a different kingdom.
when these people mention Jesus, they are trying to buy your vote. we shouldn't be deceived by this... but so many are! are they really of us? and that's the worst part of all this for me, and the good part: the worst, because so many are deceived, and the best, because many are becoming undeceived, because this cycle has been so transparently wrong that it's become so very hard to pretend any believer is voting R because of actual moral reasons.
secular partisanship.
hate.
fear.
propaganda.
i hate all these things:
I hate every false way
(Psalm 119:104, 128)
(Psalm 119:104, 128)
but coming clean --
i do like the coming clean bit. the opening of eyes
anyway here's the math:
Trump Misses Benchmarks, Is Running Out of Time
long and short of the analysis:
polls historically don't move more than 3 or so points in either direction in the last 3 weeks before the election ((compared to the election day results)) -- with Trump down on average almost 7 pts now, the math says he is a "lost cause" with high probability.
of course it's only statistics. there's variability. it's only good for prediction within the range of the actual data, and this data comes from national, not state polls, and outlier data can still occur at any point.
tell yourself that, Sirk. lol
((i do love you, buddy))
Trump Misses Benchmarks, Is Running Out of Time
long and short of the analysis:
polls historically don't move more than 3 or so points in either direction in the last 3 weeks before the election ((compared to the election day results)) -- with Trump down on average almost 7 pts now, the math says he is a "lost cause" with high probability.
of course it's only statistics. there's variability. it's only good for prediction within the range of the actual data, and this data comes from national, not state polls, and outlier data can still occur at any point.
tell yourself that, Sirk. lol
((i do love you, buddy))
C
the paint has been flaking off the GOP's claim to be the 'party of the church' all year. a facade.
K
less of a "transformation" and more of a "revealing" IMHO.
the paint has been flaking off the GOP's claim to be the 'party of the church' all year. a facade. it's the one thing that's been satisfying for me about this entire shenanigan: how much it's being laid bare that the republican party is not and never has been the 'christian' party: they are a secular party, and just as morally bankrupt as any given democrat, only in the aggregate they tend to be immoral in a different way.
giving gifts to the rich and trampling the poor is just as wicked as excusing deviance. it's condemning the innocent, or it's letting the guilty go free. and both are full of humanistic pride. both sides.
they are humanistic, secular politics.
we, if we are in Christ, are from a different kingdom.
when these people mention Jesus, they are trying to buy your vote. we shouldn't be deceived by this... but so many are! are they really of us? and that's the worst part of all this for me, and the good part: the worst, because so many are deceived, and the best, because many are becoming undeceived, because this cycle has been so transparently wrong that it's become so very hard to pretend any believer is voting R because of actual moral reasons.
secular partisanship.
hate.
fear.
propaganda.
i hate all these things:
but coming clean --
i do like the coming clean bit. the opening of eyes
the paint has been flaking off the GOP's claim to be the 'party of the church' all year. a facade. it's the one thing that's been satisfying for me about this entire shenanigan: how much it's being laid bare that the republican party is not and never has been the 'christian' party: they are a secular party, and just as morally bankrupt as any given democrat, only in the aggregate they tend to be immoral in a different way.
giving gifts to the rich and trampling the poor is just as wicked as excusing deviance. it's condemning the innocent, or it's letting the guilty go free. and both are full of humanistic pride. both sides.
they are humanistic, secular politics.
we, if we are in Christ, are from a different kingdom.
when these people mention Jesus, they are trying to buy your vote. we shouldn't be deceived by this... but so many are! are they really of us? and that's the worst part of all this for me, and the good part: the worst, because so many are deceived, and the best, because many are becoming undeceived, because this cycle has been so transparently wrong that it's become so very hard to pretend any believer is voting R because of actual moral reasons.
secular partisanship.
hate.
fear.
propaganda.
i hate all these things:
I hate every false way
(Psalm 119:104, 128)
(Psalm 119:104, 128)
but coming clean --
i do like the coming clean bit. the opening of eyes
K
This is true... I'm not sure we've had one political candidate have so much control over the media to elevate the most flawed Republican candidate to obtain the nomination only for that candidate to slaughter him in the presidential election. Thank God for Wikileaks providing the proof of our suspicions.
However, this just reemphasizes Posthuman's point.
However, this just reemphasizes Posthuman's point.
I see over and over again that this person or that person isn't running for president as if that justifies sexualizing women. I mean, I'm not God but I'm guessing the he doesn't judge one by their status and say "she modeled in her underwear but she wasn't running for president so I'll look over that." If you think about it when Trump said these horrible things he wasn't running for president. When Hillary did half the stuff she did she wasn't runnng for president. While Trump said some awful things one should learn forgiveness. He has been judged by society over and over again. He made his apology. I am not saying vote for the man but to constantly bring this up is old. He can't undo it. So do we continue to bash him time after time?
One thing that really caused me to back off of Trump and this particular incident is the fact that no one is perfect. If all our sins were exposed to the world and the world judged us how would we feel? Noah got drunk, Jacob lied, David had an affair, Moses was a murderer and Rahab was a prostitute. These people had an even bigger job than president in my opinion and they were all chosen by God. Should we bash them too and continuously judge them or learn how merciful and forgiving God is that no matter ones sin God can and will use a person to do great things.
One thing that really caused me to back off of Trump and this particular incident is the fact that no one is perfect. If all our sins were exposed to the world and the world judged us how would we feel? Noah got drunk, Jacob lied, David had an affair, Moses was a murderer and Rahab was a prostitute. These people had an even bigger job than president in my opinion and they were all chosen by God. Should we bash them too and continuously judge them or learn how merciful and forgiving God is that no matter ones sin God can and will use a person to do great things.
K
I'm not sure you understand the point people are making when they state "Hooters/Victoria's Secret isn't running for president, Trump is". The point isn't to trivialize or even defend Hooters/Victoria's Secret/whoever else does what Trump does but isn't running... the point is no one cares that they are doing it. We can live our lives and not have to be subject to them if we disapprove. However, when someone is president of the United States, it completely impacts our daily lives and world affairs.
As for your point about God using His children who had faults such as David, Jacob, NOah, MOses etc... then who is to say God won't use Hillary with your same logic? That reasoning actually makes a Christian case for Hillary. Just because God could use Trump and/or Hillary doesn't mean that He is going to or that He wills as opposed to allows it.
As for your point about God using His children who had faults such as David, Jacob, NOah, MOses etc... then who is to say God won't use Hillary with your same logic? That reasoning actually makes a Christian case for Hillary. Just because God could use Trump and/or Hillary doesn't mean that He is going to or that He wills as opposed to allows it.
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And as far as others not running for president part the whole issue is why make a big deal when one person. Screws up when women have been treated this way for years? Whether trump was running or not this has been an issue for to long. Had society stopped the sexualizing of women through music, art, tv,movies,ads, etc maybe trump wouldn't have said these things. Trump is a victim of worldly desires and I'm sure if the Internet was available 50 years earlier we would know a lot of other sins from other candidates. But if you want to see the bad in someone, even the most purest person you will.