U.S. MEETING TO DISCUSS NUCLEAR STRIKES AGAINST RUSSIA !!!

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3Scoreand10

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This is why Kenneth irritates me. He won't tell us the truth about himself.
I have never been ashamed of who I vote for or against, and could never understand someone who will not say who their choice is.
I have said before, I am not a Dem or Rep. I have voted for men, women, white, black, Dem and Rep.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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[ . . . ] The Washingtonblog, CNN, NBC, ABC, Forbes, and others have all been doing articles about this....
Wrong. They are reporting that Russia is in violation of the 1987 Intermediate-range Forces Treaty, not, as your thread title claims, that the U.S. is considering a nuclear strike against Russia. Titling a thread thusly is an insult to our intelligence, and you should be embarrassed to have posted such hyperbolic nonsense.
 
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Wrong. They are reporting that Russia is in violation of the 1987 Intermediate-range Forces Treaty, not, as your thread title claims, that the U.S. is considering a nuclear strike against Russia. Titling a thread thusly is an insult to our intelligence, and you should be embarrassed to have posted such hyperbolic nonsense.
Ya...this is a bit weird...even for Kenneth......well maybe not. He does like Hillary (named after Sir Edmund Hillary who became famous after she was born) Clinton
 
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kennethcadwell

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I wasn't referring to what he was pressured to do or not do. I was referring to the promises he made and broke them...

The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken | PolitiFact

Not an insult, just an observation. (no different from your post above).

I looked at this list and it is not actually accurate, let me tell you why..............

1) Eliminate oil and gas tax loopholes
(He did not break this promise, he threatened them to lower their prices or he would eliminate them, the oil companies complied which is one of the reasons we have the lowest gas prices in over 20 years.)

2) Expand child and dependent care credit
(Congress blocked him on doing this so the blame belongs to them, not on Obama breaking this promise)

4) Close loopholes in the corporate tax deductibility of CEO pay
(Another one that Congress has blocked him on doing, so again Congress to blame)

5) Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
(Again Congress)

7) Create a mortgage interest tax credit for non-itemizers
(Again Congress blocked, and between this one and #5 he asked the states to work out credits for homeowners)

8) Require automatic enrollment in 401k plans
(This one was approved back in 2012 however the stipulation was that they had to automatically enroll their employees in a 401k plan if they did not offer their own retirement plan)

9) Create a retirement savings credit for low incomes
(He is still trying to do this one, but once again Congress is fighting him on it and is one of many they have refused to vote on)

10) End income tax to seniors making less then $50,000 a year
(Congress blocking also, you really think Congress will agree with any tax breaks on middle to low income)


I skipped 3 and 6 because I have not looked into them yet, and as for the rest on that list most of them can be chalked up as Congress blocking or part of the many bills they have refused to vote on......
 
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kennethcadwell

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Stay in an "economic disaster".....that's pretty much a foregone conclusion. Thats what happens when you live in a "panic" driven society that doesn't live under the abundance of what God gives but lives under the fear of not having enough.
No it is called being smart when it comes to voting for the next president.
People should not vote for somebody just because they have the same party affiliation, but unfortunately this will happen as people already have their mind set just because he is republican he gets my vote, or just because she is democrat she gets my vote. It should not be that way, for it should be who has the best policy plans for the future.
Now a past history can warn people of whats to come and if one takes a look back at the Bush family stance in the white house they don't have a very good track record. Polices were bad and Bush jr. was called a lame duck president.
At least with Clinton he was the better of the last 5 presidents we had, and if you don't believe me there are plenty of polls out there that show he has the best approval rating out of all the past 5 presidents. I don't like Hilary, but her husband did better in policies as president then the Bushes.





Why do you subject yourself to fear porn?

What does this have to do with anything?

Nobody is talking about porn on here so this subject has nothing to do with the thread or me !!!
 
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kennethcadwell

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The reply I expected from a Democrat who dislikes anyone who is not a Democrat.
I voted against Obama, will you admit that you voted for him?
I don't like Jeb Bush, but I would vote for him if the only other choice is Hilary.
The Democrats have not offered a good choice sence Kennedy vs Nixon.

Wrong on many of accounts because for starters I am not a Democrat........

I am not affiliated with either the Republican or Democratic parties, for I listen to them all and determine who has the best to say before I vote.

Second I did not vote for Obama and I did not vote for Romney either, as the choice would have had to come down to voting for who was the lesser of two evils. I could not bring myself to vote for either of them do to their policies were both terrible plans.
Romney just wanted to cut everybody off of Medicaid/Medicare and not provide a replacement for it, and when asked about the 47% percent of Americans that rely on it. His reply was he didn't care about those people because they believe the government owes them something.
I guess he forgot what our government is for, and that is for all the people not just rich people who he was wanting to give tax breaks to but raise up taxes on the middle class.
Obama's policy is to force everybody to have medical insurance, even if they can't afford it, and then fine those who don't have it. Needs to provide affordable insurance first before making a policy like that.

Jeb Bush can easily be seen by his families track record that he would keep us in the financial crisis we are in, if not make it worse as Bush and Obama has done under the past two presidencies.

Like I said I don't like Hilary, but at least Bill Clinton was one of the better policy makers when he was president then the Bushes, Obama, and Reagan. Like I said don't believe me, go look at the polls and Bill Clinton was shown to have a better approval rating out of the 5.
 
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kennethcadwell

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This is why Kenneth irritates me. He won't tell us the truth about himself.
Well that is not true at all as I have said my stance on here many of times, as I am not Democrat, Republican, nor am I affiliated with any denomination unless you consider non-denominational one. They all cause division and strife because one always wants to make themselves out to be better then another. All that constant bickering leads them to neglect the weighter matters of showing love and caring for others.



I have never been ashamed of who I vote for or against, and could never understand someone who will not say who their choice is.
I have said before, I am not a Dem or Rep. I have voted for men, women, white, black, Dem and Rep.

I am not ashamed of who I choose to vote for either, but if you look at my other post I did not vote for Obama or Romney.
Neither of them I felt was worth my vote, and I am not going to vote for somebody if I feel one will be less worse then the other. If they both are bad no vote is coming from me, others can take the blame for putting that person in office.



Wrong. They are reporting that Russia is in violation of the 1987 Intermediate-range Forces Treaty, not, as your thread title claims, that the U.S. is considering a nuclear strike against Russia. Titling a thread thusly is an insult to our intelligence, and you should be embarrassed to have posted such hyperbolic nonsense.

I think you need to keep looking around then instead of just insulting a person, because what I stated was true that a meeting is coming up to make decisions on rather to start doing attacks on Russian soil or not, and nuclear attacks is on table.

I asked if anybody had any more on this because the news has gotten bad about posting things like this, to many times I have seen them give like a 2 or 3 minute tid-bit on the subject and then never hear anything more.

Newsletter Archives - Prophecy Update

This is the site I am signed up to and it constantly sends emails that speak of world events taking place or set to take place that aligns with bible prophecy.
 
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kennethcadwell

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You should try reading for comprehension vs speed.

I did read what you said and that was what you brought up, so it was off topic and completely not with the subject.
 
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Sirk

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I did read what you said and that was what you brought up, so it was off topic and completely not with the subject.
Dude...you put a phony news article that had as its basis....fear....otherwise known as "fear porn". I would say that I could talk about the life and trials of the tape worm and it would be more credible and interesting than what you posted here.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Dude...you put a phony news article that had as its basis....fear....otherwise known as "fear porn". I would say that I could talk about the life and trials of the tape worm and it would be more credible and interesting than what you posted here.

Its not a phony news article as the talks on this are to happen in the next week or two.

It did not specify a timing of the meeting and NBC, CNN, ABC, and others only gave it about 2 minutes worth of their time mentioning it. But the fact remains this meeting is going to happen, and the talks are going to surface around making attacks on Russia with nuclear attacks being part of that discussion. The reason for this meeting is because the sanctions have not been working to make Putin back out of Crimea, and the fact that he has now violated the nuclear treaty by moving nuclear weapons into Crimea.

So the fact that we might be one more step closer to a WW3 does not matter to you ???

I think all the steps this world has been making, and mainly just in the last 3 years alone, of inching closer and closer to WW3 that will kill 1/3 of the worlds population should be watched for by all believers. For it is a major step in the end times prophecies...............
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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I think you need to keep looking around then instead of just insulting a person, because what I stated was true that a meeting is coming up to make decisions on rather to start doing attacks on Russian soil or not, and nuclear attacks is on table.
See, that's what you get for believing the nonsense "news" sites you've quoted in this thread. No responsible organization is reporting this because it is not true. Now, you can believe that, or not, frankly I don't care. But no country with nuclear weapons openly discusses the potential for strikes on another nation with nukes. Anyone who thinks this story has the remotest hint of fact to it ...

... well, they need help. I'll leave it at that. And yes, Ken, that would include you, assuming you actually believe this tripe.
 

Blain

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Dude...you put a phony news article that had as its basis....fear....otherwise known as "fear porn". I would say that I could talk about the life and trials of the tape worm and it would be more credible and interesting than what you posted here.
I'm sorry but did you just say fear porn? You do know what porn is right? I never once saw anything sexual between two ppl and a camera in this thread
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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I'm sorry but did you just say fear porn? You do know what porn is right? I never once saw anything sexual between two ppl and a camera in this thread
The phrase is "fear porn" ... not that we should fear porn but the article is a "pornography of fear" as opposed to a pornography of sexuality.

In other words, to revel selfishly and lustfully in the attitude of fear. Clear now? Sorry ... we now return you to your regularly scheduled driv-- ... uh ... thread.
 

Oncefallen

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I looked at this list and it is not actually accurate, let me tell you why..............

1) Eliminate oil and gas tax loopholes
(He did not break this promise, he threatened them to lower their prices or he would eliminate them, the oil companies complied which is one of the reasons we have the lowest gas prices in over 20 years.)

It is posts like this one that make it difficult for me to take you seriously Kenneth. 17 years ago I was paying 95 cents a gallon for unleaded gas, it hasn't come close to that since. The recent plummeting of fuel prices is directly linked to the plummeting of the international price of crude oil which your beloved Obama has no control over.


2) Expand child and dependent care credit
(Congress blocked him on doing this so the blame belongs to them, not on Obama breaking this promise)
Hmmm, most families with children already pay nothing in income taxes and many of them get back more than they pay in over the year due to the EAC passed by Clinton

4) Close loopholes in the corporate tax deductibility of CEO pay
(Another one that Congress has blocked him on doing, so again Congress to blame)
There is no corporate "loophole" for CEO pay. Salaries, wages, and other compensation is deductible as a business expense no matter who the money is going to.

5) Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
(Again Congress)
Why should the government be paying to keep people in homes that many of them should never have bought, and most of their mortgage companies would have offered them insurance at the purchase in order to cover them in the possibility of unemployment, disability or death.

7) Create a mortgage interest tax credit for non-itemizers
(Again Congress blocked, and between this one and #5 he asked the states to work out credits for homeowners)
If you are paying mortgage interest and NOT line item deducting then you need to find a new person to prepare your taxes, not amend the tax code.

8) Require automatic enrollment in 401k plans
(This one was approved back in 2012 however the stipulation was that they had to automatically enroll their employees in a 401k plan if they did not offer their own retirement plan)
So now the employer should be responsible for the long term investment decisions instead of the employee? A large percentage of US employees work for small businesses (fewer than 100 employees) and invariably those small companies are exempt from mandates anyway.

9) Create a retirement savings credit for low incomes
(He is still trying to do this one, but once again Congress is fighting him on it and is one of many they have refused to vote on)
IRA's are tax deferred (taxes paid on withdrawal, deductible on deposit) already for up to $2,000 per year and have been since at least the 80's.

10) End income tax to seniors making less then $50,000 a year
(Congress blocking also, you really think Congress will agree with any tax breaks on middle to low income)
Why should only seniors making less than $50,000 a year pay no income taxes? I assure you that my monthly expenses (at 46) are considerably higher than my parents (mid 70's) since their home is paid for due to well planned finances. If people chose to not make good long term financial decisions during their working years, why should the tax payers have to fund their retirement.
 
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It is posts like this one that make it difficult for me to take you seriously Kenneth. 17 years ago I was paying 95 cents a gallon for unleaded gas, it hasn't come close to that since. The recent plummeting of fuel prices is directly linked to the plummeting of the international price of crude oil which your beloved Obama has no control over.




Hmmm, most families with children already pay nothing in income taxes and many of them get back more than they pay in over the year due to the EAC passed by Clinton



There is no corporate "loophole" for CEO pay. Salaries, wages, and other compensation is deductible as a business expense no matter who the money is going to.



Why should the government be paying to keep people in homes that many of them should never have bought, and most of their mortgage companies would have offered them insurance at the purchase in order to cover them in the possibility of unemployment, disability or death.



If you are paying mortgage interest and NOT line item deducting then you need to find a new person to prepare your taxes, not amend the tax code.



So now the employer should be responsible for the long term investment decisions instead of the employee? A large percentage of US employees work for small businesses (fewer than 100 employees) and invariably those small companies are exempt from mandates anyway.



IRA's are tax deferred (taxes paid on withdrawal, deductible on deposit) already for up to $2,000 per year and have been since at least the 80's.



Why should only seniors making less than $50,000 a year pay no income taxes? I assure you that my monthly expenses (at 46) are considerably higher than my parents (mid 70's) since their home is paid for due to well planned finances. If people chose to not make good long term financial decisions during their working years, why should the tax payers have to fund their retirement.
air dont need a lord, anything a human makes needs air.ie fly a plane or drop a bomb it needs air the wollf only need paying.
 
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an a nuke bomb , yet not all have nukes. so unfair advantage. shows stacked deck.
 
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kennethcadwell

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See, that's what you get for believing the nonsense "news" sites you've quoted in this thread. No responsible organization is reporting this because it is not true. Now, you can believe that, or not, frankly I don't care. But no country with nuclear weapons openly discusses the potential for strikes on another nation with nukes. Anyone who thinks this story has the remotest hint of fact to it ...

... well, they need help. I'll leave it at that. And yes, Ken, that would include you, assuming you actually believe this tripe.

Where do you get this baloney understanding from as they have always in the past had meetings and discussed about attacks and what kind of attacks to do before they carried them out. The public was well aware back in the cold war days that attacks were about to take place if a deal was not worked out. Before dessert storm the public knew that we were going over there and start attacks before they happened, and before we started doing bombing runs in Iraq and Syria the American public knew of them before they happened.

They of course are not going to give all the details such as the exact time and places to be attacked, but they do mention rather they are going to do it or not. So stating that they will not let people know they are going to attack Russia before it is done is completely false.

Plus what all the news articles I showed quoted was that regular attacks as well as nuclear will be on the table, and you can pretty much bet even a standard attack on Russia will escalate quickly. Russia has already for the past 3 years a number of times be threatened because their aircraft has threatened our air space to test our defenses for weaknesses...........


Why do you play such a thing off so easily when everybody knows that the tensions between the U.S. and Russia are at an all time high again. Remember also that their is another variable that comes into play; Did you know that if America is at war to where we are being attacked or fighting on our own soil that the presidency can not change hands? Meaning Obama would stay as president past his term !!!
 
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kennethcadwell

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Where was you living at ???

Because I graduated from high school back in 94, and the gas prices around here have never been below $1.50 per gallon since then. If they were it was only a promotional thing or it only lasted maybe a month then shot right back up.
We where I live have not seen below that rate for an extended period of time, and the last time gas prices was even below $2 per gallon for a long extended period of time was back when Clinton was president.

Where do you get most families with kids don't pay income tax?
That is completely false as me and everybody else that I know that have kids pay our fair share in taxes, between taxes and social security I lose about $80 to $100 dollars every pay check. That may not seem like much to some, but those who make $20,000 or less a year that is a lot to lose. Try making 300 to 400 dollars a week and lose 100 on taxes and social security.

Nobody is putting the employer for long term responsible for our long term decisions, just to have them provide a retirement plan. The employee will still make the decisions on how the money is invested....

The purpose of my response is I was responding to another who said Obama broke all of these promises, and I was showing that the post this came from was not accurate for Congress has actually blocked him on most of them. Then you go and make and put all the blame on individuals if they can not afford to live after they retire. Like as if all retirement plans are that good, and not to mention in the day and age we live in now. The economy is bad and jobs are hard to come by, and no income makes it hard to save for the future.

Not everybody even when they make good decisions reach retirement age sitting on a pile of cash.
You are just as bad as the Bushes and Romney wanting to make life harder on the less fortunate by how you talk. The government was made by the people, of the people, and for the people.

If those who are in it are not going to take care of all of the citizens then they need to be ousted !!!



It is posts like this one that make it difficult for me to take you seriously Kenneth. 17 years ago I was paying 95 cents a gallon for unleaded gas, it hasn't come close to that since. The recent plummeting of fuel prices is directly linked to the plummeting of the international price of crude oil which your beloved Obama has no control over.




Hmmm, most families with children already pay nothing in income taxes and many of them get back more than they pay in over the year due to the EAC passed by Clinton



There is no corporate "loophole" for CEO pay. Salaries, wages, and other compensation is deductible as a business expense no matter who the money is going to.



Why should the government be paying to keep people in homes that many of them should never have bought, and most of their mortgage companies would have offered them insurance at the purchase in order to cover them in the possibility of unemployment, disability or death.



If you are paying mortgage interest and NOT line item deducting then you need to find a new person to prepare your taxes, not amend the tax code.



So now the employer should be responsible for the long term investment decisions instead of the employee? A large percentage of US employees work for small businesses (fewer than 100 employees) and invariably those small companies are exempt from mandates anyway.



IRA's are tax deferred (taxes paid on withdrawal, deductible on deposit) already for up to $2,000 per year and have been since at least the 80's.



Why should only seniors making less than $50,000 a year pay no income taxes? I assure you that my monthly expenses (at 46) are considerably higher than my parents (mid 70's) since their home is paid for due to well planned finances. If people chose to not make good long term financial decisions during their working years, why should the tax payers have to fund their retirement.
 
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kennethcadwell

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an a nuke bomb , yet not all have nukes. so unfair advantage. shows stacked deck.
This map shows all the areas that have nuclear capability;