US Senate votes to curtail bulk data collection

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US Senate votes to curtail bulk data collection - BBC News

The US Senate has voted to limit the government's ability to collect phone data, a policy that had been in place since the attacks of 11 September 2001.

[h=2]Patriot Act vs Freedom Act[/h]What is changing? The expiry of the Patriot Act brings to an end bulk collection of Americans' phone metadata - who called who, when and for how long, but not the content of calls - by the US. Under its successor, records must be held by telecommunications companies and investigators need a court order to access specific information. Technology companies will be given greater leeway to reveal data requests. The measures are intended to balance concerns on privacy with providing the authorities the tools they need to prevent attacks.
What stays the same? Key parts of the Patriot Act are retained in the Freedom Act. They include the provision allowing the monitoring of "lone wolf" suspects - potential attackers not linked to foreign terror groups, despite the US authorities admitting the powers have never been used. The Freedom Act also maintains a provision allowing investigators to monitor travel and business records of individuals, something law officers says is more effective than bulk collection

We are not collecting the information of spies. We are not collecting the information of terrorists. We are collecting all American citizens' records all of the time," Mr Paul said. "This is what we fought the revolution over."

Speaking on the floor of the Senate Mr McConnell said the law will "take one more tool away from those who defend our country every day"
 
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I've noticed a lot of news organizations today reporting this story as a "curtailing" of metadata collection.

They've got it wrong.

The new USA Freedom Act doesn't curtail any such thing. What it does is leave the collected data in the hands of the telephone companies and wireless carriers, and it is still available to investigators with a FISA court order.

Honestly, as the metadata collection does not include content but only information as to what number communicated with what other number and from where, I saw no harm in the government having that information in its databases.

They couldn't review it without FISA court permission, and they couldn't do anything with it that incriminated anyone. It merely provided them connections between potential terrorists. To get content, they still had to go to the FISA court to get texts, emails, and conversations released to them.

This entire process actually changes nothing except where the information is stored. It's smoke and mirrors designed to appease the left. And even Dumbama is in on it. He signed the bill.
 
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the problem is snowden brought it to light, yet everyone is put under the same wieght of the arm of the law or spying by our governments. yet this was being done before snowden, gave his whistle a toot. but notice usa for exmple are the one making a big thing.(in the meda , news etc) against there action, because they thought, it was just bad people they were following in the spy game. and now law is sueing others for spying , (ie the blame game.) even in this madness , they still have you in fear about terror. yet the fbi can follow football bribes and bring it to the press. ie what are they doing to fight terror, if resorces are used some place else.
 

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I was just thinking about the amount of data that government agencies collect on us. I don't like it, but I realized that it is just a drop in the bucket to what God collects on us. Maybe it's time for us to clean up our act.
 

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If its in the media it must be true.

Especially the news media.

What incentive would they have to lie?