Walmart teacher friendly: Offering teachers discount on supplies

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1still_waters

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Walmart does this to promote...Walmart.

Its what a business does....makes a profit from giving sales and promotions.

Nothing moral or immoral about that, its just good business.
I disagree.
Walmart is exercising community awareness and social ethics by discounting their already low prices even more.

They truly do have a mission to leave more money in the pockets of their customers. Maybe that's why liberals dislike them so much. :p
 
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Liberals dislike Walmart because it makes a profit....they have not yet exploited but they sure are trying.

If the owners of Walmart gave to charity, that would be charitable and moral.

A sale is neither.

As far as teachers buying supplies, in Florida, each teacher is given a stipend in which they buy school supplies from. Not sure if that is the way other states do it, but I do not think ALL school supplies are being bought in this nation from the pockets of teachers
 
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I will add, there are many programs here in south florida to buy school supplies for kids
 
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1still_waters

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Liberals dislike Walmart because it makes a profit....they have not yet exploited but they sure are trying.

If the owners of Walmart gave to charity, that would be charitable and moral.

A sale is neither.

As far as teachers buying supplies, in Florida, each teacher is given a stipend in which they buy school supplies from. Not sure if that is the way other states do it, but I do not think ALL school supplies are being bought in this nation from the pockets of teachers
I think your progressive Rachel Maddow chip is making it impossible for you to see this sale as a moral decision. Turn off the MSNBC. :p
 
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I think your progressive Rachel Maddow chip is making it impossible for you to see this sale as a moral decision. Turn off the MSNBC. :p
If you think they're so moral, I'm assuming you've never been employed by them.
 

Nautilus

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If people put as much energy into helping the poor in their own towns rather than constantly attacking conservatives I wonder what kind of changes in their own lives they would see. This amount of hatred can't be healthy for you.
Except I'm not attacking conservatives I'm attacking wal-mart's wellknown business practices which needlessly shutdown local businesses and replace those jobs with jobs paying minimum wage. These are the reasons a lot of communities actively fight against wal-marts in their areas, because of the negative effects it has on local/neighborhood level economies.

Nowhere did I mention conservatives in my whole thing. Nice try buddy, but you're a little slow on the uptake.
 

Nautilus

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[video=youtube;Jazb24Q2s94]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jazb24Q2s94[/video]
 
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Except I'm not attacking conservatives I'm attacking wal-mart's wellknown business practices which needlessly shutdown local businesses and replace those jobs with jobs paying minimum wage. These are the reasons a lot of communities actively fight against wal-marts in their areas, because of the negative effects it has on local/neighborhood level economies.

Nowhere did I mention conservatives in my whole thing. Nice try buddy, but you're a little slow on the uptake.
Ahhhh but my "the whole chunk of ice is seen on the surface" friend. I see what's below and your disdain for free enterprise and your love of statist control over the economy.
 

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Liberals dislike Walmart because it makes a profit....they have not yet exploited but they sure are trying.

If the owners of Walmart gave to charity, that would be charitable and moral.

A sale is neither.

As far as teachers buying supplies, in Florida, each teacher is given a stipend in which they buy school supplies from. Not sure if that is the way other states do it, but I do not think ALL school supplies are being bought in this nation from the pockets of teachers
We are given a stipend in my state, but it's not enough to cover the entire year and most of it goes to buy paper.
 

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I really have no idea why Walmart is doing this...I mean, the only reason I can think is politics. Trying to get good publicity. Or they're mad that Hobby Lobby got attention and they didn't.
Walmart is an enormous, international, competition destroying, landscape altering, corporate monstrosity...
like all other entities of their enormity,
there is only one reason they do anything.

Something makes them money, or it doesn't.
Simple.

There is no other mantra in big business.

If teachers are getting a discount... good for them.

But to think this is pure altruism, coming from Walmart... a massive international conglomerate which is DAILY in the news for destroying other businesses around the world, and is daily in the news for all manners of deceptive and destructive business practices... that's just silly.

If you're a teacher and you're getting a discount, good for you.
Enjoy the discount.
But don't be silly enough to think Walmart loves you.

It's a huge international corporation no different than British Petroleum, Monsanto, Microsoft... or any other huge myopic corporation. They have one goal, and that is to make money. The best way to make money is ALWAYS through monopoly, unfair practices, utterly destroying competition, political lobbying, deception etc. etc.

Come on guys... this isn't rocket science.
This stuff is in the news every day.
 

maxwel

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I hear all this chirping about Walmart kicking out local business.
No one kicks out the local businesses, other than those living in the local community.

If those in the local community want those businesses to stay there, then they need to shop at the local businesses.

They can't shop at Walmart and at the same time complain that Walmart kicked out the local businesses.

Local businesses fold because local citizens quit shopping there.

It's how capitalism works.

Want a store to remain open?
Then shop there.
Want it to close?
Then don't shop there.

If a local community wants a Walmart to close, then they can simply keep shopping at already established local businesses.
Stilly, why are you on here defending Walmart?
Just curious.

What's your horse in that race?
 

Oncefallen

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Stilly, why are you on here defending Walmart?
Just curious.

What's your horse in that race?
Guaranteed he has no horse in the race, he just enjoys putting forth a different perspective from time to time. We all like to blast the huge corporation that makes a lot of money without looking at the other side.

In 2013, Walmart and the Walmart Foundation gave $1.3 billion in cash and in-kind contributions around the world, surpassing 2012's total by more than $244 million. Global in-kind donations accounted for $1 billion, while $316.3 million was given in cash globally.
Walmart Corporate - Walmart Community Giving
 

Nautilus

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Ahhhh but my "the whole chunk of ice is seen on the surface" friend. I see what's below and your disdain for free enterprise and your love of statist control over the economy.
There is a difference with a disdain for capitalism and a simple wish that companies actually provided employees with a livable wage. You know how many fewer welfare claims you would have if people actually made enough from their jobs to live on? Not everyone who is on welfare is on it because they are lazy bums, despite what conservatives would like the people to believe.
 

Elizabeth619

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I will add, there are many programs here in south florida to buy school supplies for kids
I am actually about to leave in an hour to go organize a back-to-school supply give away for k-6 grade in my county. I believe about $5,000 has been donated for this project. 80% of the supplies came from walmart.
 

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This is a list of school supplies I was given by someone recently.
(1st grade)

2 boxes of Crayola Crayons (16-24 count)
12 pencils
2 big pink pencil erasers
4 glue sticks
1 pack of expo dry erase markers (wide tip)
1 black and white composition book (wide rule)


(5th grade)
1 dozen pencils #2
1 box of Crayola colored pencils
1 pack of skinny washable markers
1 pack Crayola crayons
1 pair of Fiskars scissors
4 spiral notebooks (wide rule if you can find them)
3 big glue sticks
2 packs of 3x3 post it notes
4 solid color plastic pocket folders (red, blue, green, yellow)
1 box of gallon ziploc bags
pencil box
2 packs of black dry erase markers
2 inch binder
3 subject spiral notebook
highlighters
1 pack of pocket tab dividers (5 count)
2 composition books
2 packs of cap erasers for pencils
1 pack of large pink erasers


(4th grade)
1 dozen #2 pencils
1 box of crayola colored pencils
1 pack of washable markers
1 pair of Fiskars scissors
2 glue sticks
2 packs of loose lead wide-rule paper
3 packs of 3x3 post it notes
4 plastic pocket folders (red, 2 purple and 1 green)
Pencil box
2 packs of black dry erase markers
2 inch binder
tab dividers
1 composition book

 

Elizabeth619

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There is a difference with a disdain for capitalism and a simple wish that companies actually provided employees with a livable wage. You know how many fewer welfare claims you would have if people actually made enough from their jobs to live on? Not everyone who is on welfare is on it because they are lazy bums, despite what conservatives would like the people to believe.
WalMart retail jobs weren't not created to be a career though. Cashier/stocker jobs were supposed to be for people high school students and young adults. These jobs weren't meant to be able to support a family of 4.
 

Oncefallen

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Except I'm not attacking conservatives I'm attacking wal-mart's wellknown business practices which needlessly shutdown local businesses and replace those jobs with jobs paying minimum wage. These are the reasons a lot of communities actively fight against wal-marts in their areas, because of the negative effects it has on local/neighborhood level economies.

Nowhere did I mention conservatives in my whole thing. Nice try buddy, but you're a little slow on the uptake.
Soooo, Walmart decides to build a new store in a community. People in that community stand in line to get those low paying jobs, then the people in that community stand in line to buy Walmart's products. IF people in that community didn't stand in line for the jobs the store wouldn't be able to open, IF people in that community didn't stand in line to buy the products the store wouldn't be able to stay open.

In other words it is the fault of the people in the community if a Walmart is successful and the small mom and pop business goes under.

The American consumer is caught up in the largest hypocrisy out there IMO. We gripe that our jobs are outsourced overseas, yet by far most of us aren't willing to pay the extra price for American made products. We gripe about how little a particular company pays their employees, yet insist on shopping there because it saves us money.
 
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Soooo, Walmart decides to build a new store in a community. People in that community stand in line to get those low paying jobs, then the people in that community stand in line to buy Walmart's products. IF people in that community didn't stand in line for the jobs the store wouldn't be able to open, IF people in that community didn't stand in line to buy the products the store wouldn't be able to stay open.

In other words it is the fault of the people in the community if a Walmart is successful and the small mom and pop business goes under.

The American consumer is caught up in the largest hypocrisy out there IMO. We gripe that our jobs are outsourced overseas, yet by far most of us aren't willing to pay the extra price for American made products. We gripe about how little a particular company pays their employees, yet insist on shopping there because it saves us money.
That pretty much sums it up right there.....except we wouldn't pay so much for "American made" if our govt would bust up the mafioso unions that encourage entitled slacker low output high wage employees.
 

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WalMart retail jobs weren't not created to be a career though. Cashier/stocker jobs were supposed to be for people high school students and young adults. These jobs weren't meant to be able to support a family of 4.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Walmart retail jobs here are careers for many. Many of them are held by single moms or dads who are fortunate enough to have a parent or grand parent who will keep their children while the work. They pay a lot better than the restaurants, motels, and other small businesses. Also, they have some very good paying jobs for people interested in retail management.

For those of you who think that they kill local businesses, it hasn't happened here. The only business that has closed because of Walmart was a Kmart. Their presence has resulted in several other new retail business coming to the area.

The stores that have done the most damage to Mom and Pop businesses are called Dollar General and Family Dollar. They are moving directly into the neighborhoods and it's virtually impossible for a Mom and Pop to compete with them.
 

Nautilus

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WalMart retail jobs weren't not created to be a career though. Cashier/stocker jobs were supposed to be for people high school students and young adults. These jobs weren't meant to be able to support a family of 4.

I'm just saying Wal-Mart should at least make an effort to offer hourly wages like CostCo or Whole Foods does for their employees. Neither of those businesses are hurting financially and their starting pay for new hires is $10 or more an hour while minimum wage is a paltry 7.25.