War crimes

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Dude653

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I know we lready have a thread on Syria but I have a different scenario to discuss. Chemical weapons are a war crime, as per the Geneva Convention. So this would mean that Russia is aiding and abetting a war criminal. What would be the proper protocol here?
 
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I know we lready have a thread on Syria but I have a different scenario to discuss. Chemical weapons are a war crime, as per the Geneva Convention. So this would mean that Russia is aiding and abetting a war criminal. What would be the proper protocol here?
You are "Fake News." There is no proof Assad gassed his own people; you do not try to offer any proof because you know there isn't any. You are just trying to stroke you false biases and narratives'.
 
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You are "Fake News." There is no proof Assad gassed his own people; you do not try to offer any proof because you know there isn't any. You are just trying to stroke you false biases and narratives'.
Houston, we have a problem.
 

Dude653

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This whole Civil War started back in 2011 when Asad opened fire on Peaceful protesters. He gas bombed civilians in Damascus back in 2012 and Obama didn't do squat
 
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This whole Civil War started back in 2011 when Asad opened fire on Peaceful protesters. He gas bombed civilians in Damascus back in 2012 and Obama didn't do squat
"Fake News." You do not try to offer any proof because you know there isn't any. You are just trying to stroke you false biases and narratives'.
 

Blain

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Chemical warfare is dangerous however even if it's war crime I think it would be unwise to attack like we did earlier because that is basically saying it's on let war begin however even if we went with the peaceful approach we probably don't have much of a chance to reason with them and so eventually I am sure we will have to fight back.

Honestly I don't how to handle the situation I wouldn't want to start ww3 but i also wouldn't want to look like a push over like Obama did. Glad i'm not the president
 

Blain

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"Fake News." You do not try to offer any proof because you know there isn't any. You are just trying to stroke you false biases and narratives'.
Do you have proof that he didn't? because if not are you not doing the very same thing you are accusing him of?
 
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Do you have proof that he didn't? because if not are you not doing the very same thing you are accusing him of?
He made the assertion without proof. I have already show people lots of VERIFIABLE PROOF, on this forum, that Assad did not gas any of his own people.
 
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He made the assertion without proof. I have already show people lots of VERIFIABLE PROOF, on this forum, that Assad did not gas any of his own people.
Show it again.
 
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Susanna

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Looks like someone in the presidents circle finally has mastered the here-is-what-you-do-mr-president skills, when dictators are misbehaving worldwide.
 
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Well from what I am finding the most you could do is demand for more inspections.

Curiously in my researches on this I found that Assad might technically not be considered a war criminal under international law at all even if we operate under the assumption that indeed he did use chemical weapons (which keep in mind he denies.) Pretty much the crux of the matter is that technically it's not a war crime unless they are used in a war of "international character" or unless Syria were to become party to some recent amendments to the statute linked below, which it is not a party to and neither is the US nor Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amendments_to_the_Rome_Statute_of_the_International_Criminal_Court

Curiously, if we pretend that Syria, the US, and Russia did adopt these amendments, then technically the US would be guilty of a war crime, a "crime of aggression" for the missile strike against Assad and also for helping the rebels to undermine a sovereign nation.

So I guess in summary, Assad can technically drop as much chemical weapons he wants to so long as they are inside Syria and it is not a war crime and Trump can send as many salvos of missiles into Syria and give as many weapons and money to jihadists as he likes and it is not a war crime either. I guess it pretty much sums up pretty well the great oxymoron of the notions of international law and laws of war.
 
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Well from what I am finding the most you could do is demand for more inspections.

Curiously in my researches on this I found that Assad might technically not be considered a war criminal under international law at all even if we operate under the assumption that indeed he did use chemical weapons (which keep in mind he denies.) Pretty much the crux of the matter is that technically it's not a war crime unless they are used in a war of "international character" or unless Syria were to become party to some recent amendments to the statute linked below, which it is not a party to and neither is the US nor Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amendments_to_the_Rome_Statute_of_the_International_Criminal_Court

Curiously, if we pretend that Syria, the US, and Russia did adopt these amendments, then technically the US would be guilty of a war crime, a "crime of aggression" for the missile strike against Assad and also for helping the rebels to undermine a sovereign nation.

So I guess in summary, Assad can technically drop as much chemical weapons he wants to so long as they are inside Syria and it is not a war crime and Trump can send as many salvos of missiles into Syria and give as many weapons and money to jihadists as he likes and it is not a war crime either. I guess it pretty much sums up pretty well the great oxymoron of the notions of international law and laws of war.
You're talking semantics.

Be quiet and embrace reality for once, for crying out loud.
 

Blain

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He made the assertion without proof. I have already show people lots of VERIFIABLE PROOF, on this forum, that Assad did not gas any of his own people.
Where can i find this proof you posted?
 
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Spokenpassage

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I know we lready have a thread on Syria but I have a different scenario to discuss. Chemical weapons are a war crime, as per the Geneva Convention. So this would mean that Russia is aiding and abetting a war criminal. What would be the proper protocol here?
However, there is no substantial evidence that the Syrian government is committing this crime.
 
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The stupid is strong with some posters.
 
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Spokenpassage

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The stupid is strong with some posters.
Why would Assad who has rebel forces, Al-Qaeda, and ISIS attempting to overthrow his power, chemically gas his own people? Absurd. It does no advancement to his government. However, it is said, and you should check out my post on this news forum ,that possibly the rebel forces are using this as a tactic to gain support and aid to their group. Pictures and videos of the injured are not substantial evidence.
 

tourist

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I know we lready have a thread on Syria but I have a different scenario to discuss. Chemical weapons are a war crime, as per the Geneva Convention. So this would mean that Russia is aiding and abetting a war criminal. What would be the proper protocol here?
There is none. You can't go to war with Russia. I really don't any sanctions imposed would be of any benefit. The leader of that country is corrupt and evil.
 
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Why would Assad who has rebel forces, Al-Qaeda, and ISIS attempting to overthrow his power, chemically gas his own people? Absurd. It does no advancement to his government. However, it is said, and you should check out my post on this news forum ,that possibly the rebel forces are using this as a tactic to gain support and aid to their group. Pictures and videos of the injured are not substantial evidence.
If obama could have gassed White American Christians he would have done so. Same with Assad. There's no rhyme or reason except he's evil incarnate.