When Will We Stand Up and Stop This?

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Comparing ISIS to the Nazis is not even a close comparison, as the Nazis had a strong army with military weapons. And ISIS dose not have the same military weapon capability, but has a way more bigger army on the ground as it could easily fend 200 million soldiers. Revelation 9 ring a bell !!!
The other thing I would mention is what they do is bad, but a Christians thought process should never be a put to death first mentality. Christians are told be the Lord to have love for all, including enemies. And love does not have a kill first approach. If we go in with an approach of defensive stance, and not kill first stance, then that is the proper way.
And please I would ask to those who want to keep bringing it up, leave the Democratic and Republican debate out of it. Because not all Democrats believe that way, and I also know some Republicans that do. Plus there has been just as many republicans who have been caught in dirty tactics just as there has been democrats.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Japan PM vows to save ISIS hostages threatened with beheading in new video | Fox News

How many have to die before we realize we have the new Nazis on our hands?
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Kayla, we've tried war against people. It doesn't work. It agitates the people and gives more ammunition for Al Qaeda or ISIS recruitment drives. We've tried threats, they're met with threats.

Complete and total withdrawal from Middle Eastern Muslim countries is the only option viable any more. Anything else is too little too late.
 
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kennethcadwell said:
Comparing ISIS to the Nazis is not even a close comparison, as the Nazis had a strong army with military weapons. And ISIS dose not have the same military weapon capability, but has a way more bigger army on the ground as it could easily fend 200 million soldiers. Revelation 9 ring a bell !!!
The other thing I would mention is what they do is bad, but a Christians thought process should never be a put to death first mentality. Christians are told be the Lord to have love for all, including enemies. And love does not have a kill first approach. If we go in with an approach of defensive stance, and not kill first stance, then that is the proper way.
And please I would ask to those who want to keep bringing it up, leave the Democratic and Republican debate out of it. Because not all Democrats believe that way, and I also know some Republicans that do. Plus there has been just as many republicans who have been caught in dirty tactics just as there has been democrats.
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If you were a police officer or a soldier you would not live very long. Please tell me about your vast training in all things tactical.
 
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Human said:
Kayla, we've tried war against people. It doesn't work. It agitates the people and gives more ammunition for Al Qaeda or ISIS recruitment drives. We've tried threats, they're met with threats.

Complete and total withdrawal from Middle Eastern Muslim countries is the only option viable any more. Anything else is too little too late.
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Hogwash. The only thing we have tried is politically correct malarkey.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Sirk said:
If you were a police officer or a soldier you would not live very long. Please tell me about your vast training in all things tactical.
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Well I guess I am glad that I am not a police officer or soldier then, and glad and happy that I am a Christian !!!


Well lets see Bush sr. took us to war, accomplished nothing. Bush jr. took us to war against them, and once again accomplished nothing but stir the pot. Now we have an even stronger group in ISIS then Al Qaeda ever was, plus how do you destroy a group that is more mentality then physical and have members in every country. There is a mosk in every state here in the U.S. This war is a never ending war as has been said by multiple people, as by going in causing war on some just pisses others off. The U.S. has lost a lot of allies from the past 20 so years of doing things other countries told them not to. Plus I guess the other thing people forget who want to rush into a war time effort, is how Russia and China both have warned the U.S. to stay out...........
 
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kennethcadwell said:
Well I guess I am glad that I am not a police officer or soldier then, and glad and happy that I am a Christian !!!
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Are you saying you can't be a soldier or police officer AND a Christian?
 
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When you feel powerless against something, do what you have been empowered to do. Prayer is powerful.
 
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How about we build a fence around them, give them all the guns and ammo they want, let them kill each other off, and when the last survivor walks up to the fence, we kill him.
Not really, but that seem like the only thing that would work with these wicked people.
 
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3Scoreand10 said:
How about we build a fence around them, give them all the guns and ammo they want, let them kill each other off, and when the last survivor walks up to the fence, we kill him.
Not really, but that seem like the only thing that would work with these wicked people.
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That or invite them into our prayer circle and sing "you've got a friend" with James Taylor accompanying on his geetar.
 
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Sirk said:
Are you saying you can't be a soldier or police officer AND a Christian?
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I will just tell you this from what I have seen from some of our police officers and soldiers now days, they have a lot of repenting and confessing to do. If you believe their are no corrupt cops or soldiers then wait tell the government starts using the cops and military to either execute or force Christians into prison camps on grounds of domestic terrorism. It is coming if you don't believe it......
 
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Sirk

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And what do you propose, Ghandi?
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Let soldiers win the war..not to complicated of a concept. Japan understood unconditional surrender....we should make the islamist understand the same thing.
 
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kennethcadwell said:
Comparing ISIS to the Nazis is not even a close comparison, as the Nazis had a strong army with military weapons. And ISIS dose not have the same military weapon capability, but has a way more bigger army on the ground as it could easily fend 200 million soldiers. Revelation 9 ring a bell !!!
The other thing I would mention is what they do is bad, but a Christians thought process should never be a put to death first mentality. Christians are told be the Lord to have love for all, including enemies. And love does not have a kill first approach. If we go in with an approach of defensive stance, and not kill first stance, then that is the proper way.
And please I would ask to those who want to keep bringing it up, leave the Democratic and Republican debate out of it. Because not all Democrats believe that way, and I also know some Republicans that do. Plus there has been just as many republicans who have been caught in dirty tactics just as there has been democrats.
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Amen! Be advised God is neither Republican or Democrat... come to think of it He is not an American either...
 
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Sirk said:
Let soldiers win the war..not to complicated of a concept. Japan understood unconditional surrender....we should make the islamist understand the same thing.
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So what you're really saying is 'nuke them'? The soldiers can't win the war unless they exterminate every Muslim in the middle East, or avoid killing any innocents whatsoever, because when you kill even one innocent, another three Muslims will join jihad. What the jihadists want is for Western countries to get out. Going in and trying to win the war is the opposite of that.

It won't help, unless of course your attitude is ''stuff the Muslims, kill 'em all'', in which case you deserve, much more than those millions of innocent Muslims in the Middle East who'd be victims of such a policy, a bullet in the back of the head -- and I'd be the first in line (along with the one half of the world you didn't alienate with Hiroshima and Nagasaki) to give it to you.
 
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Sirk

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Human said:
So what you're really saying is 'nuke them'? The soldiers can't win the war unless they exterminate every Muslim in the middle East, or avoid killing any innocents whatsoever, because when you kill even one innocent, another three Muslims will join jihad. What the jihadists want is for Western countries to get out. Going in and trying to win the war is the opposite of that.

It won't help, unless of course your attitude is ''stuff the Muslims, kill 'em all'', in which case you deserve, much more than those millions of innocent Muslims in the Middle East who'd be victims of such a policy, a bullet in the back of the head -- and I'd be the first in line (along with the one half of the world you didn't alienate with Hiroshima and Nagasaki) to give it to you.
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Our attitude was never to "kill all the Japanese". We simply made the decision that we would make it too painful for them to carry on their atrocities. Too bad we don't have leaders today with enough backbone to do the same to the islamists.
 
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Sirk

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Human said:
So what you're really saying is 'nuke them'? The soldiers can't win the war unless they exterminate every Muslim in the middle East, or avoid killing any innocents whatsoever, because when you kill even one innocent, another three Muslims will join jihad. What the jihadists want is for Western countries to get out. Going in and trying to win the war is the opposite of that.

It won't help, unless of course your attitude is ''stuff the Muslims, kill 'em all'', in which case you deserve, much more than those millions of innocent Muslims in the Middle East who'd be victims of such a policy, a bullet in the back of the head -- and I'd be the first in line (along with the one half of the world you didn't alienate with Hiroshima and Nagasaki) to give it to you.
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You say they want us to "get out" but what would happen if we truly "got out". You wanna talk about a human calamity. The ones who want us to get out are the ones who want to rule over their people mercilessly.
 
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Sirk said:
Our attitude was never to "kill all the Japanese". We simply made the decision that we would make it too painful for them to carry on their atrocities. Too bad we don't have leaders today with enough backbone to do the same to the islamists.
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You made a bad decision and the world hates you for it. Rationalize all you want, but a similar policy in the Middle East will see America cease to exist within a very, very short time frame.
 
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Sirk

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You made a bad decision and the world hates you for it. Rationalize all you want, but a similar policy in the Middle East will see America cease to exist within a very, very short time frame.
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I would argue that not making that choice will see America cease to exist in a very short time frame. It seems you have this mistaken notion that peace comes thru acquiescence. I suppose it does if you are on the side of those who rule over others with the fear of death. Only death comes from trying to negotiate with merciless liars and thieves...of which you are an ally. You'll be on the wrong side of history.
 
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