why is Columbus day still in a national holiday?

[ZNP]

What point did you have exactly? Christopher Columbus did not discover America and what's patriotic about celebrating genocide?
Also they enslaved the Caribbean people and made them mine gold. Those who didn't produce enough gold had their hands chopped off.
Christopher Columbus was a monster and should not be celebrated. It may as well be Hitler day

I agree, the US is a new land, a new country, we should celebrate the day the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth rock, not Christopher Columbus. We aren't celebrating the "discovery of the America" that is an insult to the native Americans we are celebrating the founding of the new world which became a refuge for people from all over the world.

 

[crossnote]

What point did you have exactly? Christopher Columbus did not discover America and what's patriotic about celebrating genocide?
Also they enslaved the Caribbean people and made them mine gold. Those who didn't produce enough gold had their hands chopped off.
Christopher Columbus was a monster and should not be celebrated. It may as well be Hitler day

Source Please.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

Homicidal mania aside for a minute. Why is this misinformation perpetuated? He didnt discover America, but some of yall did say that its patriotic to have a holiday in his honor. Why is it patriotic?

 

[Locoponydirtman]

Vikings began coming here in 1021, and kelt coming until the early 1600s. Columbus discovered what others already knew.
Plus he was a total sociopath.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Source Please.

Below is a link to a video about it from History Channel's website (it's not on YouTube so I can't post it to this thread you can watch it at their site instead):

Columbus' Quest for Gold​

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[crossnote]

Below is a link to a video about it from History Channel's website (it's not on YouTube so I can't post it to this thread you can watch it at their site instead):
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Oh yeah, History Channel, now that's a bastion of truth...
https://www.history.com/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence
(I guess the topic is too 'religious' for the 'History Channel'.)

 

[crossnote]

A little more rounded report (pdf)
https://www.se.edu/native-american/wp-content/uploads/sites/49/2019/09/NAS-2011-Proceedings-Mize.pdf

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Oh yeah, History Channel, now that's a bastion of truth...
https://www.history.com/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence
(I guess the topic is too 'religious' for the 'History Channel'.)

If you don't like that one for, there are other sources that report the same (but in their own words of course):

1. https://www.greatfallstribune.com/s...stopher-columbus-and-columbus-day/6092483001/

2. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...10/08/why-indigenous-peoples-day/71032655007/

3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...80f358-6d23-11e5-b31c-d80d62b53e28_story.html

4. https://www.khanacademy.org/humanit...-of-columbuss-voyage-on-the-tainos-and-europe

5. https://u.osu.edu/posterchildchristophercolumbus/villain-columbus/

6. https://www.biography.com/history-culture/christopher-columbus

7. https://secure.understandingprejudice.org/nativeiq/columbus.htm


There's so many other websites from the search. Here's the link:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=did+columbus+force+the+natives+to+mine+gold&t=opera&ia=web


Anyway, the more I'm reading from the individual websites, the more I discover how vile Columbus was. A very horrible man! They can't all be wrong.


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[crossnote]

If you don't like that one for, there are other sources that report the same (but in their own words of course):

1. https://www.greatfallstribune.com/s...stopher-columbus-and-columbus-day/6092483001/

2. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...10/08/why-indigenous-peoples-day/71032655007/

3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...80f358-6d23-11e5-b31c-d80d62b53e28_story.html

4. https://www.khanacademy.org/humanit...-of-columbuss-voyage-on-the-tainos-and-europe

5. https://u.osu.edu/posterchildchristophercolumbus/villain-columbus/

6. https://www.biography.com/history-culture/christopher-columbus

7. https://secure.understandingprejudice.org/nativeiq/columbus.htm


There's so many other websites from the search. Here's the link:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=did+columbus+force+the+natives+to+mine+gold&t=opera&ia=web


Anyway, the more I'm reading from the individual websites, the more I discover how vile Columbus was. A very horrible man! They can't all be wrong.

What correction(s) can you make on my post in #107?

A little more rounded report (pdf)
https://www.se.edu/native-american/wp-content/uploads/sites/49/2019/09/NAS-2011-Proceedings-Mize.pdf

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

What correction(s) can you make on my post in #107?

I responded to your post #106, not #107 which I hadn't read. Do you want me to proofread it?


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[crossnote]

I responded to your post #106, not #107 which I hadn't read. Do you want me to proofread it?🥡

That would be appreciated, pointing to that which is you believe is in error.

 

[JimmyTheLock]

why is Columbus day still in a national holiday?

Because... it irritates the liberals!

 

[DRobinson]

In my life time only bankers and government workers celebrated Columbus day.
Just another day to get paid without working.
You really think they will give that up?

 

[crossnote]

The plot thickens!

Scholars such as Jose Erugo, Celso Garcia de la Riega, Otero Sanchez and Nicholas Dias Perez have since concluded that Columbus may have had a Jewish background.

Antisemitism rears it's ugly head on CChat. Maybe this thread should have been started over in the Conspiracy Theory section. lol

 

[JimmyTheLock]

The plot further thickens as it's been discovered that "scholars" such as Jose Erugo, Celso Garcia de la Riega, Otero Sanchez and Nicholas Dias Perez.... have no clue one way or the other cause they can't prove their unfounded claims!

All they got is... speculations!

 

[crossnote]

The plot further thickens as it's been discovered that "scholars" such as Jose Erugo, Celso Garcia de la Riega, Otero Sanchez and Nicholas Dias Perez.... have no clue one way or the other cause they can't prove their unfounded claims!

All they got is... speculations!
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At least they have Spanish surnames, more than many of the speculators here can claim. lol

 

[Mosie]

It has been long since proven that Columbus did not discover America. He landed in the Caribbean islands where he tortured and murdered over 3 million people. He also enslaved them for gold. Columbus was a horrible human being and the fact that we still celebrate him speaks volumes about the moral fabric of our nation.

Agreed. Another symptom of what needs to be corrected. Alot of people prefer to be dumb and happy. Same thing is celebrating the pagan holiday of Christmas or St. Nick. Now there's a study.

 

[JimmyTheLock]

At least they have Spanish surnames, more than many of the speculators here can claim. lol

Yeah well... they just wish they had redneck surnames so they're be cooL

 

[crossnote]

In 1492, King Ferdinand decided that all Spanish Jews should be banned from Spain as a potential infectious danger to the Christian populace. Approximately 150,000 Jews were forced to leave Spain. The Edict of Expulsion expired on the 9th of Av, August 3, 1492. Coincidentally, Columbus and his crew set out on their famous voyage on that day, August 3, boarding before midnight and sailing before sunrise the next day. It is suspected that Columbus and his crew were Jews. Israel and the Church: The Prodigal Heirs p.33
IOW, Is this an antisemitic thread in disguise?

 

[ZNP]

In 1492, King Ferdinand decided that all Spanish Jews should be banned from Spain as a potential infectious danger to the Christian populace. Approximately 150,000 Jews were forced to leave Spain. The Edict of Expulsion expired on the 9th of Av, August 3, 1492. Coincidentally, Columbus and his crew set out on their famous voyage on that day, August 3, boarding before midnight and sailing before sunrise the next day. It is suspected that Columbus and his crew were Jews. Israel and the Church: The Prodigal Heirs p.33
IOW, Is this an antisemitic thread in disguise?

The first thanksgiving celebrated in the US was also the first day of Feast of Ingathering, or Feast of Tabernacles. What are the odds?