Worldwide Arrest Warrants Officially Out For Bush & Obama!

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QuestionTime

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For all those who have yet to wake up to the crimes their government is committing:

Did you vote for either of these two men? If so, are you partly responsible for their crimes?


[video=youtube;htI8O8WDUfQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htI8O8WDUfQ[/video]
 
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Elizabeth619

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It would probably be a good idea for you not to believe everything you see on YouTube.
 

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Many human rights group have been calling for Bush's arrest.

Since the arrest of the late Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in London in 1998, international leaders can no longer be confident of immunity. Israeli politicians have cancelled trips to London and elsewhere for fear of arrest warrants.

George Bush calls off trip to Switzerland | Law | The Guardian

A world where all leaders are held accountable, not just the leaders of weaker nations, has to be an improvement.
 
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MidniteWelder

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It would probably be a good idea for you not to believe everything you see on YouTube.

:( now ya tell us
And I was just about ready to set one of these up in my backyard too

[video=youtube;3wAjpMP5eyo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wAjpMP5eyo[/video]
 

QuestionTime

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It would probably be a good idea for you not to believe everything you see on YouTube.
Clearly you didn't watch the video and you claim that your excuse for not watching is that you don't want to believe everything you see on Youtube. It is very unfortunate that you distrust your ability to differentiate between what is real and what is not. But I don't even think that it has anything to do with that. It is most probable that you just don't want to hear any opinion that upsets your world view. So if I add a video from a reputable source, containing footage of the World's Top War Crimes Prosecutor, where he is clearly speaking about his desire to prosecute George Bush, you will reject that because it upsets your world view. Somehow you believe that by burying your head in the sand, this will all go away. Unfortunately, when the people don't hold their elected officials accountable, these sorts of crimes are the result.

Eventually there will be a civil war in your country. When that happens, millions of people are going to die. All of this could be avoided if you were awake and actively keeping your elected officials accountable for their actions. When a political party, be it the Conservatives or Democrats is involved in even one little scandal, that political party should never be voted into office again. Nor should any politician who was involved in that scandal be re-elected again under any party. That is "Democracy" at work.

But then, just as you ignore everything you dislike on Youtube, you also ignore your the words of your Founders:

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams


Are the American people a "moral and religious" people? No! So then how should you live in an expectation that an immoral government should respect your liberties and act virtuously?

"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing."
John Adams


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."
Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence


Ah, "without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time."

"Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Now more than ever before, the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature.... If the next centennial does not find us a great nation ... it will be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forces."
James Garfield, the twentieth president of the United States, 1877


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson
 
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amdg

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For all those who have yet to wake up to the crimes their government is committing:

Did you vote for either of these two men? If so, are you partly responsible for their crimes?


[video=youtube;htI8O8WDUfQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htI8O8WDUfQ[/video]
Got any corroboration from a source other than rt.com. If this story is accurate you should be able to find it from numerous reputable news outlets. It doesn't show up on the first page of google news so I'm pretty skeptical.
 

Elizabeth619

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Clearly you didn't watch the video and you claim that your excuse for not watching is that you don't want to believe everything you see on Youtube. It is very unfortunate that you distrust your ability to differentiate between what is real and what is not. But I don't even think that it has anything to do with that. It is most probable that you just don't want to hear any opinion that upsets your world view. So if I add a video from a reputable source, containing footage of the World's Top War Crimes Prosecutor, where he is clearly speaking about his desire to prosecute George Bush, you will reject that because it upsets your world view. Somehow you believe that by burying your head in the sand, this will all go away. Unfortunately, when the people don't hold their elected officials accountable, these sorts of crimes are the result.

Eventually there will be a civil war in your country. When that happens, millions of people are going to die. All of this could be avoided if you were awake and actively keeping your elected officials accountable for their actions. When a political party, be it the Conservatives or Democrats is involved in even one little scandal, that political party should never be voted into office again. Nor should any politician who was involved in that scandal be re-elected again under any party. That is "Democracy" at work.

But then, just as you ignore everything you dislike on Youtube, you also ignore your the words of your Founders:

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams


Are the American people a "moral and religious" people? No! So then how should you live in an expectation that an immoral government should respect your liberties and act virtuously?

"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing."
John Adams


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."
Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence


Ah, "without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time."

"Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Now more than ever before, the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature.... If the next centennial does not find us a great nation ... it will be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forces."
James Garfield, the twentieth president of the United States, 1877


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson
Thanks for informing me how uninformed I am only because I said not to believe everything you see on YouTube. Unfortunately your spill towards me was a bit unnecessary considering I would love nothing more than for Barack Obama to be arrested. I do not support him and never will. While I do admit I voted for Bush his first term he did not get my
Vote for his second term. After all that happened during his first 4 years I was hesitant to support him for another 4 so he received no vote. From me.
Also, I have been an American my entire life. I'm well aware of our corrupt government and agree there will be a civil war. It actually wouldn't surprise me if one started before 2016. Obama has divided this country more. We are no longer united and he needs to be OUT.

Amdg was correct in being skeptical too and I support his statement fully. If there were more credible sources maybe we would believe it, but there isn't. Which is pretty much what I was trying to say yet you took it upon yourself to get defensive and completely FALSELY analyze where I lie politically.
 

Blain

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For all those who have yet to wake up to the crimes their government is committing:

Did you vote for either of these two men? If so, are you partly responsible for their crimes?


[video=youtube;htI8O8WDUfQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htI8O8WDUfQ[/video]
even if someone voted for either of them their crimes are of their will not the voters. So the voters hands are clean, and yes the government is very corrupt this is not new news. Basicly most people in high power are corrupt because you literally have to sell your soul and do the corrupt thing to make there.
 

QuestionTime

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Got any corroboration from a source other than rt.com. If this story is accurate you should be able to find it from numerous reputable news outlets. It doesn't show up on the first page of google news so I'm pretty skeptical.
This isn't the kind of news the mainstream media likes to cover, and it's saddening that you can't see the difference between RT and a news service like CNN. For example, on CNN.com right now you can find the following news stories:

-Amanda Bynes wears blue wig to court.
-Slurs draw criticism on "Big Brother."
-Photos: "A day in the life of a porn star."

MSN is even better:

-How stars are spending their summer holidays.
-World's priciest RV.
-Star style: Hits and Disses.
-Lea Michele rocks a bikini vacationing in Mexico.

Now it is beyond me how you - as a Christian - can hold more faith in CNN and MSN than you would in RT, since the mainstream media has no problems promoting every sin imaginable. RT reports the news, they don't sensationalize. The mainstream media promotes and glorifies homosexuality, abortion, bizarre sexual behaviour, lying, adultery and much more. But you trust them to tell you the truth. That's the problem with America, they place their faith in evil men.

The RT news video, if you would take the time to watch it, offers this man an opportunity to speak:

University of Illinois, College of Law
A scholar in the areas of international law and human rights, Professor Boyle received a J.D. degree magna cum laude and A.M. and Ph.D. degrees in political science from Harvard University. Prior to joining the faculty at the College of Law, he was a teaching fellow at Harvard and an associate at its Center for International Affairs. He also practiced tax and international tax with Bingham, Dana & Gould in Boston.
He has written and lectured extensively in the United States and abroad on the relationship between international law and politics. His eleventh book, Breaking All the Rules: Palestine, Iraq, Iran and the Case for Impeachment was recently published by Clarity Press. His Protesting Power: War, Resistance and Law (Rowman & Littlefield Inc. 2007) has been used successfully in anti-war protest trials. In the September 2000 issue of the prestigious The International History Review, Professor Boyle's Foundations of World Order: The Legalist Approach to International Relations (1898-1922) was proclaimed as "a major contribution to this reinterrogation of the past" and "required reading for historians, political scientists, international relations specialists, and policy-makers." That book was translated into Korean and published in Korea in 2003 by Pakyoungsa Press.
As an internationally recognized expert, Professor Boyle serves as counsel to Bosnia and Herzegovina and to the Provisional Government of the State of Palestine. He also represents two associations of citizens within Bosnia and has been instrumental in developing the indictment against Slobodan Milosevic for committing genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Professor Boyle is Attorney of Record for the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, conducting its legal affairs on a worldwide basis. Over his career, he has represented national and international bodies including the Blackfoot Nation (Canada), the Nation of Hawaii, and the Lakota Nation, as well as numerous individual death penalty and human rights cases. He has advised numerous international bodies in the areas of human rights, war crimes and genocide, nuclear policy, and bio-warfare.
From 1991-92, Professor Boyle served as Legal Advisor to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East Peace Negotiations. He also has served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International, as well as a consultant to the American Friends Services Committee, and on the Advisory Board for the Council for Responsible Genetics. He drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, that was approved unanimously by both Houses of the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President George H.W. Bush. That story is told in his book Biowarfare and Terrorism (Clarity Press: 2005).
In 2001 he was selected to be the Dr. Irma M. Parhad Lecturer by the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Calgary in Canada. In 2007 he became the Bertrand Russell Peace Lecturer at McMaster University in Canada. Professor Boyle is listed in the current edition of Marquis' Who's Who in America.
 

QuestionTime

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Was I to interpret your comment as being supportive or in opposition to my post? I believe I interpreted it correctly and I responded.

Please read my response to amdg about "more credible sources."
 

QuestionTime

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even if someone voted for either of them their crimes are of their will not the voters. So the voters hands are clean, and yes the government is very corrupt this is not new news. Basicly most people in high power are corrupt because you literally have to sell your soul and do the corrupt thing to make there.
"Now more than ever before, the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature.... If the next centennial does not find us a great nation ... it will be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forces."
James Garfield, the twentieth president of the United States, 1877

I think what is most interesting is that people place their faith in media outlets that love to promote sin and pleasure on a daily basis.
 
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QuestionTime

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The mainstream news doesn't want people to be concerned with what's happening in government. The Colbert Show and the Daily Show encourage everyone to laugh at serious events taking place in government. It's all just a big joke and a way to lull the masses to sleep. Top news stories consist of non-sense like Britney Spears shaving her hair off, or Tiger Woods cheating on his wife. How about Charlie Sheen? The media had him as a top story for a long time too. But these are the news sources that Americans trust. How sad a state of affairs this is!
 
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This whole thing is a joke. I guarantee President Bush can travel most of the civilized world and President Obama will have the same privileges after him.

It isn't fear of arrest that keeps him home but rather fear of making a scene in a way that leaves the Presidency looking undignified.
 
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The mainstream news doesn't want people to be concerned with what's happening in government. The Colbert Show and the Daily Show encourage everyone to laugh at serious events taking place in government. It's all just a big joke and a way to lull the masses to sleep. Top news stories consist of non-sense like Britney Spears shaving her hair off, or Tiger Woods cheating on his wife. How about Charlie Sheen? The media had him as a top story for a long time too. But these are the news sources that Americans trust. How sad a state of affairs this is!
Well said.
 

Elizabeth619

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The mainstream news doesn't want people to be concerned with what's happening in government. The Colbert Show and the Daily Show encourage everyone to laugh at serious events taking place in government. It's all just a big joke and a way to lull the masses to sleep. Top news stories consist of non-sense like Britney Spears shaving her hair off, or Tiger Woods cheating on his wife. How about Charlie Sheen? The media had him as a top story for a long time too. But these are the news sources that Americans trust. How sad a state of affairs this is!
I will agree the mainstream media only shows what they want the public to know. That's why I never watch Communist News Network(CNN)

They're all politically biased and if something bad happens on their end they will cover it up to prevent it from reaching the majority public.

One of the most popular stories now is about Paula Deen saying a racial comment 20 years ago. Which is about the dumbest thing I've heard.
 
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This whole thing is a joke. I guarantee President Bush can travel most of the civilized world and President Obama will have the same privileges after him.

It isn't fear of arrest that keeps him home but rather fear of making a scene in a way that leaves the Presidency looking undignified.
No need to fear that...it has been undignified for sometime now...
 

Elizabeth619

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Oh how true, hahaha. Somehow I think Mr. Bush would disagree.
We could always talk about Clinton and the dignified things he did with another woman.....

Well, lets not, but you know what I mean.