Couples who "can't" marry

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spunkycat08

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To add to my current reply....

Accommodations cost an employer money... money that employers do not want to spend.

So even if you are willing to work full-time with the necessary accommodations, you cannot when an employer will not hire you.

So there are times when someone is limited regarding what jobs they can have as well as how many hours they can work.
 
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coby2

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spunkycat08 said:
To add to my current reply....

Accommodations cost an employer money... money that employers do not want to spend.

So even if you are willing to work full-time with the necessary accommodations, you cannot when an employer will not hire you.

So there are times when someone is limited regarding what jobs they can have as well as how many hours they can work.
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They're doing it wrong. Here the employer gets an extra bonus from the govt if he hires those people.
 
Grace-Like-Rain

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JosephsDreams said:
I was trying to help the way I thought was best at the time. She was out on the street, almost literally, with a 5 year old girl. So I took her and her child in. And then my church got involved. What a mess. And most of my friends who were there and witnessed what happened tell me even today that I should not be angry, and that she could have found a place to live, essentially implying I just wanted to have sex outside of marriage, and that my church was right in telling me they were going to throw me out. But she had no place to go.
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I'm sure you've heard it before, but you could have helped her without having a sexual relationship with her. So your comments on needing to help her because of her situation are invalid, because the church probably wasn't protesting your HELPING her. They were protesting your sleeping with her, which they were right to do. You would agree, would you not, that sleeping with her was wrong, especially considering your lack of love for her.

We cannot allow sin to go on in our churches unopposed. This was for your sake spiritually, as well as for the sake of the entire body of Christ (the church itself). Paul had to write many letters to churches in his time, because they had allowed sin into their midst unopposed. There comes a point when church leaders MUST stand up and say "we love you, and because of that you need to know that what you are doing is wrong".

I'm really sorry so many were hurt through that situation, yourself probably more than anyone else. That sort of thing is never easy. :(

I love this song by Jimmy Needham. "There's vice in all my virtue". All of my virtuous deeds are tainted. Even those things that I think I am doing for good, are actually tainted by sin. It hurts our pride to admit sometimes, but there is freedom in admitting it and truly repenting over it.

[video=youtube;duaWMMXYWvE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duaWMMXYWvE[/video]
 
JosephsDreams

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Grace-Like-Rain said:
I'm sure you've heard it before, but you could have helped her without having a sexual relationship with her. So your comments on needing to help her because of her situation are invalid, because the church probably wasn't protesting your HELPING her. They were protesting your sleeping with her, which they were right to do. You would agree, would you not, that sleeping with her was wrong, especially considering your lack of love for her.

We cannot allow sin to go on in our churches unopposed. This was for your sake spiritually, as well as for the sake of the entire body of Christ (the church itself). Paul had to write many letters to churches in his time, because they had allowed sin into their midst unopposed. There comes a point when church leaders MUST stand up and say "we love you, and because of that you need to know that what you are doing is wrong".

I'm really sorry so many were hurt through that situation, yourself probably more than anyone else. That sort of thing is never easy. :(

I love this song by Jimmy Needham. "There's vice in all my virtue". All of my virtuous deeds are tainted. Even those things that I think I am doing for good, are actually tainted by sin. It hurts our pride to admit sometimes, but there is freedom in admitting it and truly repenting over it.

[video=youtube;duaWMMXYWvE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duaWMMXYWvE[/video]
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We were having sex long, long before she moved in. I am not making excuses. Really, the sex is a side issue. They just did not want us living together, sex or no sex. Yes, the sex inflamed it, but they did not like either way, and told us they would not believe us anyway even if we said we were not having sex.
So if she was able to have continued living where she was, if she had not moved in, if it wasn't right there in the church's face, would they have kicked me out? We were having sex then. And they knew it. We were going to church together about 6 months before she moved in. They did not say a word then.
Still yet, church's accept drug addicts and gamblers who may use the family money to drug and gamble, but after about 9 months at the church I was going to be thrown out? At the time, as a new Christian, I honestly did not even see anything wrong with having sex outside of marriage. And please don't tell I did. No one said anything to me about it, and we had not read the scriptures about it yet.
Did you read my post after the one that you just replied to?
 
Grace-Like-Rain

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JosephsDreams said:
We were having sex long, long before she moved in. I am not making excuses. Really, the sex is a side issue. They just did not want us living together, sex or no sex. Yes, the sex inflamed it, but they did not like either way, and told us they would not believe us anyway even if we said we were not having sex.
So if she was able to have continued living where she was, if she had not moved in, if it wasn't right there in the church's face, would they have kicked me out? We were having sex then. And they knew it. We were going to church together about 6 months before she moved in. They did not say a word then.
Still yet, church's accept drug addicts and gamblers who may use the family money to drug and gamble, but after about 9 months at the church I was going to be thrown out? At the time, as a new Christian, I honestly did not even see anything wrong with having sex outside of marriage. And please don't tell I did. No one said anything to me about it, and we had not read the scriptures about it yet.
Did you read my post after the one that you just replied to?
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I did read your other post, and appreciate your honesty about it. I guess what caught my attention was the resentment toward the church for stepping up on the living-together issue. But I am now understanding that the problem for you was that they were only concerned once she moved in, and not before. You are right, they definitely should have counseled you before then. You needed someone to disciple you and teach you how to live biblically from the very beginning. I think the church has a problem ignoring "secret" sins. It's much easier to wait until they see "outward" sin before addressing it.
 
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I still live at home with my mom who has health issues and I'm also on income assistance from the government. I also have a part time job I been at for 8 years and send in my paystubs to my caseworker. If I get married then my government check gets taken away. Also if you have more than $5,000 saved up they don't give you a government check because they think $5,000 is enough to live on for a while. I have a savings account that is almost that amount but its in my moms name and I don't touch it I just put money in it every month. I currently have a boyfriend we been going out for almost 2 years and waiting until marriage to be together. He wants to get married now and I want to wait another 2 years because right now I just want to be home and keep an eye on my mom. My step dad died over Christmas so I'm not taking vacation this year I just want to be home. Hopefully my mom and I go on a cruise together next year. Anyways I'm going off topic but yeah the government sucks and if one person is on disability and wants to get married they get their check taken away. My step dad was disability and lived with us and he was lying to the government and had his address as living with one of his friends instead of with us because then the government would have made us support him and give him money and he didn't want that.
 
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