A Man desires a Woman

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presidente

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What I don't get is the young men wanting to date or marry women with tattoos, especially lots of tattoos.

If I had an office building, I wouldn't want graffiti sprayed on it. And you can paint over the graffiti on a building rather easily without leaving any little while pictures where the graffiti used to be.
 
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presidente said:
What I don't get is the young men wanting to date or marry women with tattoos, especially lots of tattoos.

If I had an office building, I wouldn't want graffiti sprayed on it. And you can paint over the graffiti on a building rather easily without leaving any little while pictures where the graffiti used to be.
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Different people have different tastes. Seems apparent enough. I don't understand why a woman would want to be a domineering man...... but some do.
 
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presidente

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Different people have different tastes. Seems apparent enough. I don't understand why a woman would want to be a domineering man...... but some do.
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My wife wouldn't want one either. She doesn't have one either. You really don't care for that wives submitting to their husbands thing in some of my past posts, do you?
 
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Ugly said:
Different people have different tastes. Seems apparent enough. I don't understand why a woman would want to be a domineering man...... but some do.
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presidente said:
My wife wouldn't want one either. She doesn't have one either. You really don't care for that wives submitting to their husbands thing in some of my past posts, do you?
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It seems that some people on here simply do not understand how a wife can 'submit' to a husband that 'loves', 'protects', and 'cherishes' her -- you know - loves her "even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it" ( Ephesians 5:25 ). The moment the words 'wife' and 'submit' are found together in the same sentence ( or paragraph? or post? ) -- all is assumed - everything goes out-the-window - "to hell in a hand basket in a hurry" - with no understanding or reasoning for the fact that a husband can 'love' and 'cherish' his wife as God wants him to while the wife can 'respect' her husband - and 'submit' to him - as God wants her to ----- the word 'submit' automatically makes him a sorry-no-good domineering 'bastard' and her a shallow-minded dimwit 'fool' ( "for marrying a man who expects her to 'submit' to him" ) -- while the what-God-wants part of it is quickly "swept under the rug" as though it were the least important part of it. ( When it is the most important part of it. )

Both "a man should love his wife like Christ loves the Church" and "a woman should submit to her husband" are what God wants. Both should be understood to be necessary in a good, healthy, Christian marriage -- even if only one of them are mentioned in the context of a particular topic or conversation.

It is completely normal for a husband to expect his wife to 'respect' him and 'submit' to him as God intends.

It is completely normal for a wife to expect her husband to 'love' her and 'cherish' her as God intends.

And, neither should either have to "demand it" from the other. It should be "freely given", as honoring God.


Can't you people have 'Christian' conversations - even a little bit - with this understanding as a base-level guiding assumption -- without every-little-finite-detail of it having to be 'rehashed' every-single-time it happens to surface in a conversation...???

:rolleyes:


Do we need to put up a [ locked ] 'sticky' thread with a single post stating that whenever a person encounters a post with both of the words 'wife' and 'submit' present - or both of the words 'husband' and 'loves' present ( is this sounding ridiculous, yet? ) -- it should be assumed that it represents one part of a two-part requirement for a good, healthy, Christian marriage? And, that - the 'complimentary' part should also be assumed, as though it were also present?

:eek:


Whether the husband is as he should be - and / or, whether the wife is as she should be -- is a different issue!

It is an issue - the reality of which - must be determined and resolved as two people get to know each other. It does not and can not change the fact that ---

We all know what God wants!

And, that is never going to change...

Get over it!


If you have an issue with what the Bible says - your issue is with God - not the opposite sex!


We should be able to talk about these things [ having all of this in mind ].


By all means - before you get married, make sure you thoroughly discuss these things with your spouse-to-be. However, all of the "fussing" over the 'definitions' ( in thread posts ) is utterly unnecessary!

Grow up!



Also -- it seems like it takes a couple of pages of posts to "calm down" the reaction that generally occurs whenever 'wife' and 'submit' are found together in the same post. Why is this?

Especially for a group of people who purport themselves to be mature Christians...

"I think it is kinda stupid..."

Will we ever get past this???

:( SMH
 
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Heyy, I'm the Asian Woman, Asian girl, I could be tender and lovely like a little woman sometimes, and could also turn to be strong and independent like a man. I just live a life of my own style but never departing from Jesus Christ.
 
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Miri said:
One of my brother is a chief. Most famous chiefs are men, sooooo....
there is no excuse for men not cooking.....:p
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I agree. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a man knowing how to cook. In fact, it’s preferred. Both spouses (husband & wife) should know how to cook. That’s just plain wisdom. You never know if or when the wife will become incapacitated.

During his earthly ministry, Jesus (our Bridegroom) cooked breakfast for members of his church (the disciples). John 21:7-12
Earthly husbands are no greater than Jesus - the ultimate Bridegroom. Earthly husbands ought to be willing and able to cook for their wives (church) on occasion too.

The Bible also tells us that Jacob cooked stew (Gen 25:29) and Esau made delicious, savory food (Gen 27:13).
 
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proverbs35 said:
I agree. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a man knowing how to cook. In fact, it’s preferred. Both spouses (husband & wife) should know how to cook. That’s just plain wisdom. You never know if or when the wife will become incapacitated.

During his earthly ministry, Jesus (our Bridegroom) cooked breakfast for members of his church (the disciples). John 21:7-12
Earthly husbands are no greater than Jesus - the ultimate Bridegroom. Earthly husbands ought to be willing and able to cook for their wives (church) on occasion too.

The Bible also tells us that Jacob cooked stew (Gen 25:29) and Esau made delicious, savory food (Gen 27:13).
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What you have said about cooking is wise. When my late wife became incapacitated I had to do all of the cooking. Learned to do laundry too. Windows on occasion.
 
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I can cook. It just doesn't taste anything like my wife's cooking.

From a micro-economics point of view, it does make sense to specialize. Society is richer overall if we do.
 
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Miri

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Jesus did the cooking, so men take note and get your pans out.:p
(He did the shopping as well).



John 21:9-13 NKJV
[9] Then, as soon as they had come to land, they saw a fire of coals there,
and fish laid on it, and bread. [10] Jesus said to them, "Bring some of
the fish which you have just caught." [11] Simon Peter went up and
dragged the net to land, full of large fish, one hundred and fifty-three;
and although there were so many, the net was not broken. [12] Jesus said
to them, "Come and eat breakfast." Yet none of the disciples dared ask
Him, "Who are You?"-knowing that it was the Lord. [13] Jesus then came
and took the bread and gave it to them, and likewise the fish.



Luke 9:14,16-17 NKJV
[14] For there were about five thousand men. Then He said to His disciples,
"Make them sit down in groups of fifty." [16] Then He took the five loaves
and the two fish, and looking up to heaven, He blessed and broke them,
and gave them to the disciples to set before the multitude. [17] So they
all ate and were filled, and twelve baskets of the leftover fragments were
taken up by them.
 
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presidente

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Miri said:
Jesus did the cooking, so men take note and get your pans out.:p
(He did the shopping as well).

John 21:9-13 NKJV
[9] Then, as soon as they had come to land, they saw a fire of coals there,
and fish laid on it, and bread. [10] Jesus said to them, "Bring some of
the fish which you have just caught." [11] Simon Peter went up and
dragged the net to land, full of large fish, one hundred and fifty-three;
and although there were so many, the net was not broken. [12] Jesus said
to them, "Come and eat breakfast." Yet none of the disciples dared ask
Him, "Who are You?"-knowing that it was the Lord. [13] Jesus then came
and took the bread and gave it to them, and likewise the fish.
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I'm not sure where you get the shopping part. But this is an example of grilling, and we all know, it's okay for a man to do that. :)

As far as skills go, we all need basic survival skills. It's good if we could go out in the wilderness for a week and be able to eat and survive. I'm not there, yet. But as far as specialized skill in cooking, my household is a lot better off with me focusing on my career and my wife cooking. We have more money to spend and better food to eat that way.

I can wash clothes, iron, and sew on buttons. I wonder how many Americans would know how to wash a shirt if they didn't have a washing machine?
 
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presidente said:
I'm not sure where you get the shopping part. But this is an example of grilling, and we all know, it's okay for a man to do that. :)

As far as skills go, we all need basic survival skills. It's good if we could go out in the wilderness for a week and be able to eat and survive. I'm not there, yet. But as far as specialized skill in cooking, my household is a lot better off with me focusing on my career and my wife cooking. We have more money to spend and better food to eat that way.

I can wash clothes, iron, and sew on buttons. I wonder how many Americans would know how to wash a shirt if they didn't have a washing machine?
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"That's right -- who said anything about Jesus going to the store to get the fish and bread ---- or the coals ---- or something to light the fire with..."

hahahahaha

:)
 
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presidente

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For the fish, how do we know He didn't just reach His hand in and pull one out. He had just told the disciples to cast the net on a certain side of the boat before He fed them fish, and their net filled up. He could have rubbed two sticks together. For all we know, He just said to the wood, 'Burn.'
 
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