In a Race to Date. (The Dating Race?)

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seoulsearch

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Ok y'all:

Would you date/marry someone of another race? Why or why not? What have your experiences been? And if someone says, "I'll only date (from a certain race)," do you believe that automatically makes them racist? Is it ok to be a Christian and say, "I'll only date from such and such race." Why or why not?

Some observations and experiences from my own life:

1. I live in an area with a lot of white/black tension and it's always my white friends who have children with someone black who are called racists by the blacks (go figure, because I sure can't.)

2. I've had four "official" relationships in my life: the first was white, the guy I married was white/Filipino, (I waited about a year after the divorce was official to start dating), then dated someone black, and then the last boyfriend I had was white.

Seeing as my entire family (except one brother, more in a minute) was a different race at the start, I am very open to the subject of meeting someone from a different background.

My brothers (I don't have any sisters) have gone through absolute hell in this department.

3. My Korean brother (adopted like me, but we're not blood related) married a girl who is Chinese/Vietnamese and her traditionally-based mother told him, "He has no roots, and is not a real human being. He will never be able to love you or take care of you because he has no true emotions." (Traditional Asian culture holds that someone with no bloodlines or blood-tied and proven family history is not a real person.)

I know we are not supposed to wish for revenge, but let's just say my brother won out in the end. He and my sister-in-law have been very happily married for over 12 years, have two beautiful children, and he works at Microsoft headquarters--he's one of the developers for the XBox (sorry guys, I can't get you a discount or pass on any complaints--even I don't get a discount.) And he never even finished his college degree! He's just that talented with computer systems (so very unlike me!)

4. Brother number two (whom my Korean brother and I affectionately call "the white boy"), ironically, married a native South Korean girl and her father told her (when she first mentioned that they were dating) to break up with him immediately. But then he met my brother and had a change of heart, even though they don't speak the same language. He later told her that he could just tell from something in my brother's eyes that he was a good person and would take care of her.

He and my sister-in-law are extremely happy, have been married over three years, and just had their first baby. He is currently manager over half a Best Buy store and is on track to managing the entire store in a few years. (My brothers have done so well, sometimes I feel like the black sheep of the family.) :)

They eventually want to go back to Korea (he knows enough of the language to hold a conversation--they keep telling me to go with them or at least visit but I told my brother, "If I'm over there with you, the first thing you're going to have to teach me to say in Korean is, "Please talk to the white boy. I have NO CLUE as to what you're saying.")

I tell everyone that my family is half-Asian... and the Asians are taking over. I used to joke with my parents that I would have to marry a white guy someday in order to restore the racial balance. :)

But I'm open-minded to anyone God may have for me.

How about you?
 
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missy2shoes

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ohhhh when I read the title I thought ya meant....a race....like a race....the first one to get a date is the winner type race lol
 

seoulsearch

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*smiles*


I have a bad penchant for playing with words and phrases... mixing up their meanings a little. :)
 
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pinkstix56

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Hmm i don't mind dating other races , as long they put God first ya know? But my only problem is , is that most black men find no interest in black women anymore ya know? Most of them always leave us to go date you guys and eventually marry someone " more exotic" than us. I just feel that it's not fair for us black women because it's like we're being neglected and therefore it ends up in broken families sometimes. As for guys who not our race , it just seems like they are afraid of black women or something, yeah we're strong and don't take any mess, but it just seems offensive ya know?

If our black men won't date us and people from other races are hesitant to date us then what hope does that have for us black women? I'm not speaking for every black woman out there but from what I've observed it just seems shady to me.

Agree or Disagree with me , that doesn't matter, I'm just here to display what I've seen and heard.
 

seoulsearch

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Black men see other women as "more exotic"? That's interesting... I've never heard that.

Here I always thought that black women were the "more exotic" ones because they have such beautiful variations in skin tones...

One thing I personally HATE is when guys (usually older) say, "Oh, I just love Asian girls." To me, it's like someone saying, "Oh, I just LOVE German Shepherds..."

It makes me feel like some sort of weird sub-species or something.

I do see what you're saying though. I have a good white friend who is engaged to a black man and she catches hate like you wouldn't believe from black women. But I can see that black women must see it as some sort of betrayal. And my best friend is a black man, so I often wonder what other black women must think.

I've heard Asian guys have similar complaints, as they say the Asian girls all want white guys.
 
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pinkstix56

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Yeah it just doesn't make us feel good , and what i mean by exotic is mostly the hispanic women , for some reason black men really love women who are hispanic , or german or white ....etc.

I just don't understand it at all... I don't think us black women are that terrible. But we also thank you guys too, because you are doing us a favor by dating those who only want to be treated like kids. ^_^
 
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SamIam

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I dont care about race.... That would never effect who i would or wouldnt date
 

seoulsearch

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*smile*

Well, I certainly don't treat my friend (black male) like a kid. We just recently had an argument because he disagreed with how I approached a situation in my life (that seems to happen a lot because we both have very strong personalities) and I told him, "Look, there's the door, feel free to use it, and quickly." He said, "Kim, you really (tick me off sometimes) but I have to hand it to you for standing up to me as if I'm the Wicked Wuss of the West (he used slightly stronger language) because I know most people couldn't do that." He's a great guy--I ask him for advice on dating and so forth all the time, and he'll ask me about girls he's interested in. We also talk about various religious and Biblical issues constantly.

As I said, because I'm in an area where there's a lot of black/white tension, I tend to try to find little niches (meaning I crack jokes, or try to at least), and I have a tendency to joke about things that would otherwise probably get me into a lot of trouble.

I work with a good mix of people, and sometimes I'll say something like (about our office manager), "Why do I have to be told what to do and bossed around by some tall white girl?" (She knows I'm joking and is a good friend of mine--her best friend is black.) Or, when I was having a conversation with her best friend (black female), I'll say, "Oh, sorry, this conversation is only for us people of color." And my friend (the white girl) will always say, "Kim, there's something wrong with you!"

A while ago I used to work with a black girl who always teased me about sounding "so white". She and another black girl would say, "Kim, Kim, say, 'Yo Mama'", and I'd be like, "Y-o -- Ma-Ma" and they would burst into peals of laughter.

I was also in the break room one day and my boss happened to stop in for a moment--I was sitting there with about four other people and I told him, "Oh no, this will never work. I demand that you hire more Asians (I'm the only one where I work) because the ratio of other races to Asian is way too high in this room and it makes me uncomfortable."

He joked back, "I can't hire more of you--you'd take over!"

Thank God for diversity! :)
 
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Abing

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hahaha wow, i sooo thought this was a race.. as in a game yay
and heyyy

Thank God for diversity
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Thank God for Susan Boyle :p JK!!

seriously, races... hmm black, white, yellow, pink, green, as long as ur human, nothing makes u different from any one else - God didn't make someone pink because he/she's made for somthing better .. nah :p
 

Kakashi

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My first crush was on a half south Korean girl, so yes of course i would XD
 
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pinkstix56

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Lol you're funny :] Well yeah i wish God would just take the blinders off of everyone and realize we share the same blood and the same father in heaven created us all. There should be no use being biased..there's no point.

Anyways it's nice to meet you :] I'm going to add you lol
 

Kakashi

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I wouldn't say i absolutely wouldn't date another person just because of their race. However, does that mean I don't have some sort of inclination of attraction to people of certain races? Being as honest of a guy as i can be, of course I have inclination towards certain races. What I find attractive is just that, what I find attractive. People give me weird looks when I say I like girls of certain races, but that gives no one the right to judge me.

I think there's an obvious difference in how we treat people in general, and who we find attractive. The bible says there is no difference in races when it comes to Christ, but it says nothing about attraction ;). Treat everyone equal in Christ, but your own personal preferences for attraction are up to you.
 
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ariannaaa

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i've heard alot of girls say what pinkstix is saying, i mean its the basis of the plot for Save the Last Dance... but I don't think its fair. I dont think its fair for them to be mad at white or hispanic girls just because black men happen to find them attractive or to be mad at black men because of their preferences. I'm not saying that you're necessarily mad, pinkstix- but just that alot of girls are.

I think culturally, black people tend to be louder and more confrontational in general. This doesn't mean all of them are by any means, but its a stereotype that comes from some truth. I grew up in NYC- I've done alot of culture-observing. I think this may be why some white men shy away from black girls, because of this reputation they have. Its sad because alot of black girls aren't like that, and I hope that the men who feel threatened by that culture are giving them all the individual chance they deserve.

But bottom line race is not a factor biblically. God looks at the heart, as should we. Like kakashi, I'm generally attracted to particular races more than others, but I would never rule out a certain race and especially not just BECAUSE they were that race.
 

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I think culturally, black people tend to be louder and more confrontational in general. This doesn't mean all of them are by any means, but its a stereotype that comes from some truth. I grew up in NYC- I've done alot of culture-observing. I think this may be why some white men shy away from black girls, because of this reputation they have. Its sad because alot of black girls aren't like that, and I hope that the men who feel threatened by that culture are giving them all the individual chance they deserve.

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Hilariously enough, my best friend Aaron( he's white) is dating a black girl, and around most people she is quiet as can be ( but she talks a bit more in one on one conversations). Aaron now says "Now no one can possibly say I have a problem with race, I'm dating a black girl and i think she's cute!" lol So, you;re right in saying not all black girls are like that. Everyone is an individual ;)
 
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torotoro

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I wouldn't say i absolutely wouldn't date another person just because of their race. However, does that mean I don't have some sort of inclination of attraction to people of certain races? Being as honest of a guy as i can be, of course I have inclination towards certain races. What I find attractive is just that, what I find attractive. People give me weird looks when I say I like girls of certain races, but that gives no one the right to judge me.

I think there's an obvious difference in how we treat people in general, and who we find attractive. The bible says there is no difference in races when it comes to Christ, but it says nothing about attraction ;). Treat everyone equal in Christ, but your own personal preferences for attraction are up to you.
Didnt God scold Aaron and Mary for making fun of Moses' wife who was dark skinned? Well, this isnt a question, cause yeah, he did. It's more of a rhetorical question, just making a point. The point being that yeah, humans look at two people and decide whether they are a good couple by skin color or other unimportant factors, but that shouldnt matter to us, unless we want to get scolded by God. Hey kakashi, I'm curious, what girls of certain races do you like?
 

Kakashi

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Didnt God scold Aaron and Mary for making fun of Moses' wife who was dark skinned? Well, this isnt a question, cause yeah, he did. It's more of a rhetorical question, just making a point. The point being that yeah, humans look at two people and decide whether they are a good couple by skin color or other unimportant factors, but that shouldnt matter to us, unless we want to get scolded by God. Hey kakashi, I'm curious, what girls of certain races do you like?
LOL I'm not making fun of anyone of different colors or races. God isn't going to scold me for finding one woman more attractive than another for whatever reason. God would scold me however if i was excluding someone from fellowship because of their skin. or even if I made fun of them because they are different. It's two totally different spheres of influence.

What races do i like? That's kind of hard to say living in America. America is the land of the free home of the "mutts". Technically "White" and "black" are generic terms. Where I'm from people can be a mix of French, German and Indian. If I liked a girl like that, i could say she's "white" but that wouldn't be accurate.

if i had to answer, I'd say i do like "white" girls and Asians( refer back to previous post about my 1st crush). saying just " white" covers a multitude of different people I'd say, so I'm kinda diverse. Even just saying Asian is also diverse. Japanese, Chinese, Filipinos, Koreans, Laotians, Vietminise and so forth. This is all bound to change though depending who I meet lol. Thanks for asking ^_^
 
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torotoro

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LOL I'm not making fun of anyone of different colors or races. God isn't going to scold me for finding one woman more attractive than another for whatever reason. God would scold me however if i was excluding someone from fellowship because of their skin. or even if I made fun of them because they are different. It's two totally different spheres of influence.

What races do i like? That's kind of hard to say living in America. America is the land of the free home of the "mutts". Technically "White" and "black" are generic terms. Where I'm from people can be a mix of French, German and Indian. If I liked a girl like that, i could say she's "white" but that wouldn't be accurate.

if i had to answer, I'd say i do like "white" girls and Asians( refer back to previous post about my 1st crush). saying just " white" covers a multitude of different people I'd say, so I'm kinda diverse. Even just saying Asian is also diverse. Japanese, Chinese, Filipinos, Koreans, Laotians, Vietminise and so forth. This is all bound to change though depending who I meet lol. Thanks for asking ^_^
Oh no, I wasnt saying you were making fun of someone. I put your quote to ask my question about what kind of girls get your attention the most. I think the girls that interest you the most now are related to your first elementary crush. My first elementary crush was this tall girl with blonde hair and colored eyes.
 

Kakashi

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I think the girls that interest you the most now are related to your first elementary crush..



Ain't that the truth ....

Some people are like, " Oh you're just one of those guys" And I'm like, " heck no, I was like this since 7th grade." haha
 
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torotoro

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one possible problem with expressing your personal likes in women is that people tend to think that's the women you absolutely want. For example, let's say you personally like shorter than you-long-hair-women from Mars, but you start dating a bit-taller-than-you-short-hair woman from Jupiter. The people that know your personal likes would be asking, "But I thought you said you didnt like those women". Sharing the physical traits you like in women doesnt mean you have to have those traits or that you think the rest of the women are ugly.
 

Kakashi

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one possible problem with expressing your personal likes in women is that people tend to think that's the women you absolutely want. For example, let's say you personally like shorter than you-long-hair-women from Mars, but you start dating a bit-taller-than-you-short-hair woman from Jupiter. The people that know your personal likes would be asking, "But I thought you said you didnt like those women". Sharing the physical traits you like in women doesnt mean you have to have those traits or that you think the rest of the women are ugly.

true, which is why I added onto the end of my statement " but that will change depending on who I meet".

I see your point though.