Is Masturbation wrong and sinful?

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alanwrench

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I guess as a female I see masturbation different than a man. I always thought of it as a release of body fluid and tension, almost like urination. I always thought it was best for a male to sastify this urge than to dwell and "lust" after females because his body was uncomfortable. I don't really see this addressed in the bible, but yet I don't really see any other body functions addressed either. Can a male masturbate and not lust but use this only as a relieving device? I have no clue myself. I'm just asking a question.
I agree fully. For a woman, your perpsective on this is very objective and open-minded.

For a man, there are physiological and mental benefits to regular release. If a committed relationship is not available, masturbation is the only other option for most men.
 
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You really need to study and seek the Lord. You have many problems with what you think. Many many times you say untruths of the word of God.
 
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How accurate is your statement that it will lead to blindness?
 
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Kay_Kay

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#24
I imagine the psychological damage that occurs in people buying into the lie that masturbation is sinful and dirty will cause more problems then relieving yourself in private and not hurting anyone. Really, who does it hurt? How? Masturbation is natural and helps people unwind. It also keeps some of us from being promiscuous. The shame associated with the act was created, not researched, that's why there's so many wives-tales surrounding it.
 
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Servantofiam

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Masturbation is a want to fulfil the desire of the body. There is nothing Christian about it. Christians are called to put to death the body of sin and live in the spirit. But don't be discouraged by failing, instead look at how great and important the sacrifice of our Lord has made for us. You will never be perfect here but you must perservere with all the strength and faith God gives you. If you turn to God with your heart fully open about this, He will answer. He (if it is His will) put into your heart a greater desire than lust of the body. Keep seeking, keep finding and keep trusting that God is powerful.
 
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Vidy

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#26
I did a lot of research, and from what I've found.... No 0_o

The Bible does not mention it, and it's not like masturbation is some new technology. In fact, it even talks about ejaculations (wet dreams, sex with wife, ect.) and states that you must bathe afterwards. If it was to declare masturbation sinful, wouldn't it have gone ahead and done it there since it's already on the topic?

On the issue of lust, it IS possible to masturbate without lusting. Just sayin' ~_o

But, if I may be daring, does the Bible even say that sexual attraction for someone is a sin? No, in context, it is saying that "A desire to do a sin is a sin, because you have committed the sin in your heart." But what if you don't fantasize about a certain person? What if your intentions are not to have sex WITH anyone at all? Is it still sin then?
 
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Chadnew

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Hello Christians,

Before we conclude without proper exegesis, let us discuss this matter. There are some facts of logic which we must consider:
1) Masturbation has no specific label of "sin" in Scripture. What believers have is deductive reasoning or inferences based on verses referring to lust or fleshly desires. So, for anyone to jump at inquirers with immediate claims of "sin" demonstrates the negative stereotype of Christians as being irrational thinkers with a quick answer of guilt-implying. Guilt implications do not convey grace, love, and compassion for human struggles from divine believers.
2) If masturbation for singles is sinful in itself, then one might ask why? Why would God hold such authoritarian mentality over the body which contains five neurotransmitters, secretion fluids that require exiting, and endorphins which also require nourishing the brain chemistry? If I had to refer a recovery addict to church, then some of you would signal a red flag for me.
3) Many single men choose masturbation in order to cope with Western attitudes of women. I choose it because promiscuity, STDs, and divorce rates are at an all-time high. Modern women literally scare me with their disregard and inflated entitlements. If I was to accept some of these "sin" claims, then I would be in a constant state of depression, imbalance, and hopeless thought except in the afterlife. God offers no guarantee of a special "mate" in this life. In fact, Paul advised men in 1 Timothy 6 to avoid marriage and stay single. Solomon said something similar in Proverbs 30. Does that sound like God is trying to be a "matchmaker"........? No.

My advice: if you are single, then masturbate to avoid promiscuity or adultery. Allow your body to feel chemical nourishment which was also designed by God. I would never advise people to marry under today's standards. Even 50% of Christians cannot stay married.
 

starfield

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Hello Christians,

Before we conclude without proper exegesis, let us discuss this matter. There are some facts of logic which we must consider:
1) Masturbation has no specific label of "sin" in Scripture. What believers have is deductive reasoning or inferences based on verses referring to lust or fleshly desires. So, for anyone to jump at inquirers with immediate claims of "sin" demonstrates the negative stereotype of Christians as being irrational thinkers with a quick answer of guilt-implying. Guilt implications do not convey grace, love, and compassion for human struggles from divine believers.
2) If masturbation for singles is sinful in itself, then one might ask why? Why would God hold such authoritarian mentality over the body which contains five neurotransmitters, secretion fluids that require exiting, and endorphins which also require nourishing the brain chemistry? If I had to refer a recovery addict to church, then some of you would signal a red flag for me.
3) Many single men choose masturbation in order to cope with Western attitudes of women. I choose it because promiscuity, STDs, and divorce rates are at an all-time high. Modern women literally scare me with their disregard and inflated entitlements. If I was to accept some of these "sin" claims, then I would be in a constant state of depression, imbalance, and hopeless thought except in the afterlife. God offers no guarantee of a special "mate" in this life. In fact, Paul advised men in 1 Timothy 6 to avoid marriage and stay single. Solomon said something similar in Proverbs 30. Does that sound like God is trying to be a "matchmaker"........? No.

My advice: if you are single, then masturbate to avoid promiscuity or adultery. Allow your body to feel chemical nourishment which was also designed by God. I would never advise people to marry under today's standards. Even 50% of Christians cannot stay married.
So you dug up this old thread just to post a terrible advice?

 
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IloveyouGod

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#29
It is VERY wrong and sinful. Your body belongs to God, you have to honor your body. God says only in marriage. Outside marriage it's sexual immorality.

We are humans not animals who don't know how to control our desires and honor God. It is a sin to please yourself at God's price because you are hurting God by this major sin.



Hey people, I know this is a delicate subject, but an important one for single christians. I'm a single male and raised catholic, and feel that there seems to be some kind of tacit approval in today's permissive society, in which most people assume that it's ok to pleasure and relieve yourself. As singles, we may feel that need very strongly, but does that make it right? As christians, I think many of us feel deep down it's wrong to do it, no matter how strong your need and desire may be. I struggle with this issue daily, and would like to hear your opinions, and especially from christians who are trying to abstain from it, as I am trying to do. Thanks and God bless.
 
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Chadnew

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Your judgment of my advice already tells me that you have a poor hermeneutical understanding of Scripture. You are making a judgment by explicitly saying that masturbation is a sin. You know that no commandments identify masturbation specifically for claims of sin. It sounds like you are inventing your own definition, thereby acting as God yourself. I don't follow you or your faulty interpretation. So, how about you attend an accredited theology seminar, and then argue? Thank you.
 
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Chadnew

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I disagree with this statement. God invented the body, so He knows about dopamine, seratonin, norepinephrine, oxytocin, and endorphin release. It sounds like you don't consider these things or their dynamics in the brain. So, be advised that although your spiritual claim may be genuine, it is not hermeneutically correct or humane. God bless your understanding. Humans do not live in a "black and white" domain of sin battles. Stop trying to box the human body into one.
 
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Honestly i am not sure if its a sin or not, and i do not approve of mean things said. Clearly he came to us for help but i saw some really mean replies. Why?
 
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Chadnew

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For your FYI, I find your constant judgmental view as a bad example of Christianity. You appear to me as a dichotomous thinker: "black or white" view of things. Unfortunately, dichotomous thinkers are significantly challenged in interpretation of texts, especially hermeneutics or rhetoric. I know that Scripture does not specifically label masturbation as "sin". You are masquerading on this site that you know that it is an undisputed sin. I think it is YOU who needs to seek advice and some theological learning. Be careful of inventing your own definition of sin and claiming it is God's definition.
 
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Chadnew

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#34
If you refer to my postings as "mean", then I can tell you. Some of these so-called Christians exemplify the reason why I was an atheist before I converted. Their views are entirely subjective and can really lead others to depression and a negative view of God. I believe that God is more rational than what some of these disclaimers portray.
 
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Honestly i am not sure if its a sin or not, and i do not approve of mean things said. Clearly he came to us for help but i saw some really mean replies. Why?
Look under their username and country flag and find out if it says "Banned". It's safe to assume that those people were all banned from Christian Chat for good reasons.
 

Oncefallen

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Someone joins CC for the sole purpose of reviving a four year old thread in order to debate it.......

Hmmmmm................
 
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mykim

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i don't think it is wrong. I don't see myself getting married so does that mean i have to live like a monk and deny myself?
 
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ServantStrike

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#39
Hello Christians,

Before we conclude without proper exegesis, let us discuss this matter. There are some facts of logic which we must consider:
1) Masturbation has no specific label of "sin" in Scripture. What believers have is deductive reasoning or inferences based on verses referring to lust or fleshly desires. So, for anyone to jump at inquirers with immediate claims of "sin" demonstrates the negative stereotype of Christians as being irrational thinkers with a quick answer of guilt-implying. Guilt implications do not convey grace, love, and compassion for human struggles from divine believers.
2) If masturbation for singles is sinful in itself, then one might ask why? Why would God hold such authoritarian mentality over the body which contains five neurotransmitters, secretion fluids that require exiting, and endorphins which also require nourishing the brain chemistry? If I had to refer a recovery addict to church, then some of you would signal a red flag for me.
3) Many single men choose masturbation in order to cope with Western attitudes of women. I choose it because promiscuity, STDs, and divorce rates are at an all-time high. Modern women literally scare me with their disregard and inflated entitlements. If I was to accept some of these "sin" claims, then I would be in a constant state of depression, imbalance, and hopeless thought except in the afterlife. God offers no guarantee of a special "mate" in this life. In fact, Paul advised men in 1 Timothy 6 to avoid marriage and stay single. Solomon said something similar in Proverbs 30. Does that sound like God is trying to be a "matchmaker"........? No.

My advice: if you are single, then masturbate to avoid promiscuity or adultery. Allow your body to feel chemical nourishment which was also designed by God. I would never advise people to marry under today's standards. Even 50% of Christians cannot stay married.
Well now I'm a man and I don't masturbate.

I don't see how it's possible to even do it without thinking lustful thoughts. What do you think about? Cars? Nature? Some lust is going to have to creep in there or it's going to cease to be interesting.

As far as necessary release, I agree, but the male body is designed to dump old sperm when you urinate (or sometimes during your sleep as a nocturnal emission). If your thoughts are pure from day to day, you probably won't even have the nocturnal emissions at all.

Is this as enjoyable as being married and having a sex life, no, and it's not even as enjoyable as touching yourself, but it's the best way to stop thinking with your flesh. You literally deny that desire and just get on with your life. And yeah, it can be hard for a few weeks to a month, but eventually you get used to it.
 
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Chadnew

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I find your choice a personal one, which you are entitled. I feel that it is wrong to label someone's choice to masturbate as "sin" because no specific reference can be made without interpretative errors. No specific verses refer to the act. Furthermore, is your definition of "lust" contextualized correctly, or are you using the general, popular usage of "lust" thereby committing eisegesis?
In today's age, Christians REALLY need to be mindful about their claims of absolution. Also, your choice may not work for every person. Brain chemistry is not Exactly the same from person to person. Again, be mindful of what you impose on people. Young generations are rejecting church not because of God, but because of behaviors of believers. If your claim appears illogical or inhumane, then be prepared to eventually close your doors.