Looking For a Foreign Wife? May I Humbly Submit Some Realities to Consider...

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Sigh.

This is NOT how I'd envisioned (or hoped) the thread would go.

But alas.
Heh well then it is quite fitting to the topic (marriage to foreigners not going exactly how you envision it). Lol
 

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What about this part in the Bible?

Ephesians 5:22

[SUP]22 [/SUP]Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Some men take that to mean that the wife is now their personal slave that must be ready to serve their every wish and desire. Also, the opinion of the wife is not sought or valued.

The bible says also for husbands to loves their wives.
 
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This thread was going along just fine, and then someone had to toss a turd in the punchbowl.
 
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God is not a man, God made man in his likeness. A true example of a man's strength is what Jesus did for His People. He never spoke when he was falsely accused and when he was sentenced to death by crucifixion and bore the sins of world upon himself... That's not even going into the 3 days he was in the realm of the dead and ministered to the spirits in prisons, took the keys of death from Satan, Took the key of the grave and took captivity captive.

He NEVER thought about himself, He surrendered to the will of his Father. JESUS is the Truth Example of what a TRUE MAN should be. Submission, Humility and a Heart To Serve.

John 13:1-17King James Version (KJV)

13 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet?
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.
Well just a quick reply, not wanting to go too far off topic. The good son submits to the Father. The good wife submits to the husband. All is aligned and in harmony in this case. The hidden things of God are seen in nature.
 
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Some men take that to mean that the wife is now their personal slave that must be ready to serve their every wish and desire. Also, the opinion of the wife is not sought or valued.

The bible says also for husbands to loves their wives.
Yea well it's not the Bible's fault how some men take it.
 

maxwel

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Ever considered the possibility that you're delusional and on a witch hunt for seemingly no reason at all?

Ever consider that joining a forum, and immediately doing every conceivable thing a troll would do, would lead people to conclude you're a troll?




Go ahead.
Participate in the forum like a normal person.
Please, prove me wrong.





Here is a list of things that will make you look less like a troll... just trying to help you:

1. Change your avatar to something other than the President Elect... that's just weird.
(It immediately makes you look like a troll or activist, and not a normal forum member).

2. Stop posting links to Trump's twitter account... that's just weird.
It's pretty easy to find Trump's twitter account, if anyone wants it.
Doing this, again, just makes you look like a political troll.

3. Stop using so much outrageous hyperbole about Trump, as if you worship him... that's just weird.
That doesn't fly on a Christian forum.
Worshipping another human actually offends us.

4. Try engaging in normal Christian threads, on normal topics, and discussing normal Christian issues of biblical doctrine and morality.
This social thread here about "foreign women" doesn't cut it... this doesn't show anyone you know anything about the bible.



Good luck.





 
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Ever consider that joining a forum, and immediately doing every conceivable thing a troll would do, would lead people to conclude you're a troll?




Go ahead.
Participate in the forum like a normal person.
Please, prove me wrong.





Here is a list of things that will make you look less like a troll... just trying to help you:

1. Change your avatar to something other than the President Elect
(which immediately makes you look like a troll or activist, and not a normal forum member).

2. Stop posting links to Trump's twitter account... that's just weird.
It's pretty easy to find Trump's twitter account, if anyone wants it.
Doing this, again, just makes you look like a political troll.

3. Stop using so much outrageous hyperbole about Trump, as if you worship him.
That doesn't fly on a Christian forum.
Worshipping another human actually offends us.

4. Try engaging in normal Christian threads, on normal topics, and discussing normal Christians issues of biblical doctrine and morality.
This social thread here about "foreign women" doesn't cut it... this doesn't show anyone you know anything about the bible.



Good luck.
Lol I'm not falling for your trolling "Advice" Mr. Pharisee you all ready showed me your true colors. I ain't stupid. You don't get to dictate what my avatar is or what I post. So let's get that straight right now.
 

maxwel

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Lol I'm not falling for your trolling "Advice" Mr. Pharisee you all ready showed me your true colors. I ain't stupid. You don't get to dictate what my avatar is or what I post. So let's get that straight right now.

1. Back to answering me with RIDICULE.

This is, again, a tactic used by trolls and political activists.

Trolls and activists don't discuss things logically, point by point... they go straight to ridicule.


2. Accusing me of saying things I never said.

Accusing people of saying things they never said, instead of dealing with things factually, is creating a straw man... this is also done by trolls and political activists.

Specifically: I am being accused of "dictating" (which means to DEMAND, or ORDER) that Eloseus must change his avatar.
I never ordered him to do anything at all, I simply made a list of suggestions that would make him seem less like a troll.


3. I made a list of suggestions that would make Eloseus appear more like a normal CC member, and less like a troll, and he refused my help and answered my helpful advice with ridicule:
A. He started back with insults and ridicule... he could have just thanked me for helping him to fit in.
B. He REFUSED to do anything to make him look less trollish... apparently meaning he INTENDS to look and act like a troll... I guess.


4. If I give a guy some suggestions to help him fit in, and his response is to insult me, create straw man arguments, and refuse all of my helpful suggestions to fit in ( apparently with the intention of NOT fitting in) ... people can draw their own conclusions.



I've played with him enough today.
 
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1. Back to answering me with RIDICULE.

This is, again, a tactic used by trolls and political activists.

Trolls and activists don't discuss things logically, point by point... they go straight to ridicule.


2. Accusing me of saying things I never said.

Accusing people of saying things they never said, instead of dealing with things factually, is creating a straw man... this is also done by trolls and political activists.

Specifically: I am being accused of "dictating" (which means to DEMAND, or ORDER) that Eloseus must change his avatar.
I never ordered him to do anything at all, I simply made a list of suggestions that would make him seem less like a troll.


3. I made a list of suggestions that would make Eloseus appear more like a normal CC member, and less like a troll, and he refused my help and started with attacks:
A. He started back with insults and ridicule... he could have just thanked me for helping him to fit in.
B. He REFUSED to do anything to make him look less trollish... apparently meaning he INTENDS to look and act like a troll... I guess.

4. If I give a guy some suggestions to help him fit in, and his response is to insult me, create straw man arguments, and refuse all of my helpful suggestions to fit in ( apparently with the intention of NOT fitting in) ... people can draw their own conclusions.


I've played with him enough today.
Lol aww I won't let you dictate to me and bully me around. Now his commands to stop this and that and to change this and that are just suggestions. Hilarious. Back to your safe space now. Seems the pretty girl from India agrees with me a lot, you must have a rep here Mr. Pharisee.

Here's some advice in kind. Don't push around new members, sooner or later one will push back.
 

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Lol aww I won't let you dictate to me and bully me around. Now his commands to stop this and that and to change this and that are just suggestions. Hilarious. Back to your safe space now. Seems the pretty girl from India agrees with me a lot, you must have a rep here Mr. Pharisee.

Here's some advice in kind. Don't push around new members, sooner or later one will push back.
You seem to be off to a rough start in the community.
 
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You seem to be off to a rough start in the community.
Hey I ain't gonna take Mr. Pharisee's snide and false accusations sitting down. I know Jesus didn't let them get away with it when he first entered the community and they flung all manner of slander at him too.
 

EmilyNats

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Okay... so... exactly what direction had this thread been heading before? I'm a bit lost as to what is being discussed now...
 

maxwel

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Lol aww I won't let you dictate to me and bully me around. Now his commands to stop this and that and to change this and that are just suggestions. Hilarious. Back to your safe space now. Seems the pretty girl from India agrees with me a lot, you must have a rep here Mr. Pharisee.

Here's some advice in kind. Don't push around new members, sooner or later one will push back.


I'm out of time to play with you for today.


But if you have something for me... by all means... bring it on.



Hugs.
 
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I'm out of time to play with you for today.


But if you have something for me... by all means... bring it on.



Hugs.
I'll just treat you like you treat me. The golden rule prevails.
 

seoulsearch

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Okay... so... exactly what direction had this thread been heading before? I'm a bit lost as to what is being discussed now...
Hi Em!

Well apparently, this thread is headed straight down the garbage chute :rolleyes:, but I had actually intended to talk about mixed race/culture/country marriages and the challenges they face...
 
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I'll just treat you like you treat me. The golden rule prevails.
I've got a better idea. Why don't you treat others the way you want to be treated?
 
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I've got a better idea. Why don't you treat others the way you want to be treated?
Tried that. He don't want grace, he wants the law, so I'll lay it down.

We can start new anytime like I said. But I'll eye for the eye and tooth for the tooth til then. You gotta stand up to bullies or else they will think they own you.
 

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Lets see if i can get this discussion back on track. One potential flash point I see is child rearing and the discipline of children. Without dragging this out into a long discussion in the pros and cons of spanking etc.. You will find that, having been brought up as children in very different worlds the couple may have rather different rule books when it comes to issues like discipline and mentoring their children.