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Presenting yourself well: Practice good personal hygiene, don't go overboard on the makeup, dress neatly, check yourself for modesty, mind your manners and look people in the eye when you speak with them.
Shallow about appearances: Not being able to pass a window or mirror without checking your appearance, not being able to have a good time because you might get dirty/wrinkled/mess up your hair/makeup, putting your lipstick on at the table/pulling a mirror out of your purse to check your makeup several times during a date, not dating a guy who does not dress a certain way/have a certain type of job/drive a certain type of car
Shallow about appearances: Not being able to pass a window or mirror without checking your appearance, not being able to have a good time because you might get dirty/wrinkled/mess up your hair/makeup, putting your lipstick on at the table/pulling a mirror out of your purse to check your makeup several times during a date, not dating a guy who does not dress a certain way/have a certain type of job/drive a certain type of car
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Funny that Djness would mention cufflinks. I have a serious thing for cufflinks, to the point that whenever I find a French cuffed shirt that actually fits well, I pretty much buy it on principle. Finding a dress shirt that fits well is hard enough, but one with French cuffs is nigh impossible.
Does that make me shallow about appearances? I dunno. For me, the French cuffs has less to do with being vain than it does with wanting to be a little unique. With cufflinks, I can be subtly cheeky or nerdy while still presenting myself as professional and appropriate at work and church. I have a pair of winglets from the LeMay Car Museum, a pair of Tetris pieces (the L and T), a pair of treble clefs, a set with an ace and jack of spades, and a very simple pair labeled 'left' and 'right,' in case I get my hands confused. It's more about subtle expression and a touch of uniqueness, rather than vanity.
The question is presented fairly open ended: "shallow about appearances" could mean shallow about your own appearance, or shallow about the appearances of others. I wrestled with this slightly last week when I was confiding in the first lady at bible study (I really love our church's first lady; she's totally my best friend in the congregation). Those of you following the DART thread have been privvy to the...current adventure in my life. I confessed to the first lady that I had this girl on my mind more than I thought I should, and I wondered if I was only so fired up because of her physical appearance. We talked about whether or not physical attraction should play a role at all when two single Christians meet, and she felt that I should have nothing to worry about. "When I first laid eyes on the pastor, I thought he was the most handsome man I'd seen in my life, and I still feel that way today, almost two decades later. Physical attraction certainly played a role with us," she said. So, I am reassured by her words, but I still can't help but feel a twinge of doubt that I probably wouldn't have even made the attempt to learn about her (and discover that she's a real-deal Christian) if she hadn't been so strikingly beautiful.
Does that make me shallow? If it does...guilty as charged, I suppose.
Does that make me shallow about appearances? I dunno. For me, the French cuffs has less to do with being vain than it does with wanting to be a little unique. With cufflinks, I can be subtly cheeky or nerdy while still presenting myself as professional and appropriate at work and church. I have a pair of winglets from the LeMay Car Museum, a pair of Tetris pieces (the L and T), a pair of treble clefs, a set with an ace and jack of spades, and a very simple pair labeled 'left' and 'right,' in case I get my hands confused. It's more about subtle expression and a touch of uniqueness, rather than vanity.
The question is presented fairly open ended: "shallow about appearances" could mean shallow about your own appearance, or shallow about the appearances of others. I wrestled with this slightly last week when I was confiding in the first lady at bible study (I really love our church's first lady; she's totally my best friend in the congregation). Those of you following the DART thread have been privvy to the...current adventure in my life. I confessed to the first lady that I had this girl on my mind more than I thought I should, and I wondered if I was only so fired up because of her physical appearance. We talked about whether or not physical attraction should play a role at all when two single Christians meet, and she felt that I should have nothing to worry about. "When I first laid eyes on the pastor, I thought he was the most handsome man I'd seen in my life, and I still feel that way today, almost two decades later. Physical attraction certainly played a role with us," she said. So, I am reassured by her words, but I still can't help but feel a twinge of doubt that I probably wouldn't have even made the attempt to learn about her (and discover that she's a real-deal Christian) if she hadn't been so strikingly beautiful.
Does that make me shallow? If it does...guilty as charged, I suppose.
1 Timothy 2:9-10
[SUP]9 [/SUP]in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, [SUP]10 [/SUP]but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.
1 Peter 3:3-4
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel—
[SUP]4 [/SUP]rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God.
I know these verses are for girls but from the little research I did in the past these are the most relevant...
So, if you choose to dress up nicely... we shouldn't be going all out (buying expensive things) I guess and have moderation with our looks. And instead of our adornment be only outside... let it be the hidden person. Let it be us, our character instead.
As for how we see other people... I take an extreme stance on it. I believe we shouldn't judge appearances at all. Mankind judges by appearances but the lord looks at the heart.
1 Samuel 16:7
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees;[SUP][a][/SUP] for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
I know people might disagree with me but I think God clearly has his eyes on the truth and the right way to judge people and it isn't by appearances.
So, perhaps out of consideration for others we might dress modestly with moderation. However when we look at others, we should not care about how they look but look at their heart. That's what I think is ideal.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, [SUP]10 [/SUP]but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.
1 Peter 3:3-4
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel—
[SUP]4 [/SUP]rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God.
I know these verses are for girls but from the little research I did in the past these are the most relevant...
So, if you choose to dress up nicely... we shouldn't be going all out (buying expensive things) I guess and have moderation with our looks. And instead of our adornment be only outside... let it be the hidden person. Let it be us, our character instead.
As for how we see other people... I take an extreme stance on it. I believe we shouldn't judge appearances at all. Mankind judges by appearances but the lord looks at the heart.
1 Samuel 16:7
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees;[SUP][a][/SUP] for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
I know people might disagree with me but I think God clearly has his eyes on the truth and the right way to judge people and it isn't by appearances.
So, perhaps out of consideration for others we might dress modestly with moderation. However when we look at others, we should not care about how they look but look at their heart. That's what I think is ideal.
I do have good hygiene habits, but I'm kind of lazy about my appearance. I don't wear makeup, and 97% of the time I wear a t-shirt with jeans/sneakers or shorts/flip-flops.
There have been times when I should have taken more care about my appearance and didn't... to the point that it seemed a little disrespectful to whomever I was representing. I still don't wear makeup, but showing up to a big event with wet hair was a bit over-the-top. I had enough advance notice to avoid that.
But I'm not suggesting that wearing makeup is vain or sinful. I think it depends on what the individual person is comfortable with.
There have been times when I should have taken more care about my appearance and didn't... to the point that it seemed a little disrespectful to whomever I was representing. I still don't wear makeup, but showing up to a big event with wet hair was a bit over-the-top. I had enough advance notice to avoid that.
But I'm not suggesting that wearing makeup is vain or sinful. I think it depends on what the individual person is comfortable with.
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We want to dress for success 
God's success in our life, not sure how that 'dress' looks for you, but He knows. I often wear Christian shirts, like the 'M' one you see with "John 3:16" in my avatar, and, don't you knowtice that cutey, cuddly, doggy-woggy
Present yourself a living sacrifice to God, holy and accepatable this is our reasonable service, this seems to be about presentation of ourselves to God but we are to WIN others for Christ and 'dress' is important for that, how we LOOK matters And ,this verse of 'living sacrifice' is not me speaking , it is from the bible, Romans 12:1-2 think are where this be at. The Lord leads.
God's success in our life, not sure how that 'dress' looks for you, but He knows. I often wear Christian shirts, like the 'M' one you see with "John 3:16" in my avatar, and, don't you knowtice that cutey, cuddly, doggy-woggy
Present yourself a living sacrifice to God, holy and accepatable this is our reasonable service, this seems to be about presentation of ourselves to God but we are to WIN others for Christ and 'dress' is important for that, how we LOOK matters
And ,this verse of 'living sacrifice' is not me speaking , it is from the bible, Romans 12:1-2 think are where this be at. The Lord leads.
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I very much like the cufflinks.
What budget does one have to groom one self with and what energy, time and health and priorities should maybe lay with inner beauty and having self esteem in who and all one is.
As far as "the body" "the meat" goes it is written in many old scriptures to dress modestly.
Some like to follow this others do not take it so literally and others dress very opposite.
I am apposed to plastic surgery so many have for the wrong reasons and to look like some one else than God made them.
They nolonger wear the own colours and etc.
Although if one has flaws one can fix that such as remove a wart.
Or groom some make up and a nice hair do with clean fresh clothes and cleansed body and prayers to be best of who YOU are.
Trying to wear some one elses colours, shape, nose...... that to me is very sad and indicates low selfesteem and disrespect for God and creation.
Although arguing this some scriptures say ones marriage partner/spouse is to wear eachothers colours.
But that does not include all his horrid wicked dames.......... to wear colours.....
Where does ones priorities lay.
What self esteem to carry own colours and being and body.......
Being proud of how made and do best to fix where faulty (such as remove wart) (unless one loves this wart cause one has this taste) (we have different taste)...
Oh, I must add I am for caning.
I write this as I cained my dolls did not obey me in important matter.
Problem is wrong people in governing and authority that missuse it on children they jealous of.
Even heard molested children being hit for not licking the mother (who not real mother)where she wanted.
Yes, woman do this also.
And poor children suffer to much.
Or abusing a child with headache when it is a real headache.....not understanding.
I dont seem to think every one is or should hit and cain because they missuse and abuse it which we seen from abuse cases and murder swell as molestation.
True colours!
Inner beauty in who and all one is.
Self esteem .
Love self.
and care of self and body (if one has energy care for ones body accordingly)
Some people spend hours every morning getting ready, surgeries and cheating and will not go to bed with out makeup tattoo surgery and etc and do evil horrid things so they will feel and look beautiful.
That is very sad and illegal.
It is how one feeeeeeeeels.
Your body can look beautiful but not feel beautiful and that may be not cause you bad selfesteem but for other reasons like working out...etc.
I know clearly what I perceive as beautiful and ugly and it goes far beyond the body "meat".... and can even be hidden for most to see do things are not always as they seem.
Being overly greedy can be ugly and that may go hand in hand with shallowness and there is educated shallowness swell.
Some may say feeling loved makes you feel beautiful.
Giving love also but if one gives and gives and gets hate in return and isolation..
Blabber blabber.
and best wishes of a true beauty industry also.
A facial may do wonders a couple times a year or once a year.
Caring for self best one can.
What budget does one have to groom one self with and what energy, time and health and priorities should maybe lay with inner beauty and having self esteem in who and all one is.
As far as "the body" "the meat" goes it is written in many old scriptures to dress modestly.
Some like to follow this others do not take it so literally and others dress very opposite.
I am apposed to plastic surgery so many have for the wrong reasons and to look like some one else than God made them.
They nolonger wear the own colours and etc.
Although if one has flaws one can fix that such as remove a wart.
Or groom some make up and a nice hair do with clean fresh clothes and cleansed body and prayers to be best of who YOU are.
Trying to wear some one elses colours, shape, nose...... that to me is very sad and indicates low selfesteem and disrespect for God and creation.
Although arguing this some scriptures say ones marriage partner/spouse is to wear eachothers colours.
But that does not include all his horrid wicked dames..........
to wear colours.....Where does ones priorities lay.
What self esteem to carry own colours and being and body.......
Being proud of how made and do best to fix where faulty (such as remove wart) (unless one loves this wart cause one has this taste) (we have different taste)...
Oh, I must add I am for caning.
I write this as I cained my dolls did not obey me in important matter.
Problem is wrong people in governing and authority that missuse it on children they jealous of.
Even heard molested children being hit for not licking the mother (who not real mother)where she wanted.
Yes, woman do this also.
And poor children suffer to much.
Or abusing a child with headache when it is a real headache.....not understanding.
I dont seem to think every one is or should hit and cain because they missuse and abuse it which we seen from abuse cases and murder swell as molestation.
True colours!
Inner beauty in who and all one is.
Self esteem .
Love self.
and care of self and body (if one has energy care for ones body accordingly)
Some people spend hours every morning getting ready, surgeries and cheating and will not go to bed with out makeup tattoo surgery and etc and do evil horrid things so they will feel and look beautiful.
That is very sad and illegal.
It is how one feeeeeeeeels.
Your body can look beautiful but not feel beautiful and that may be not cause you bad selfesteem but for other reasons like working out...etc.
I know clearly what I perceive as beautiful and ugly and it goes far beyond the body "meat".... and can even be hidden for most to see do things are not always as they seem.
Being overly greedy can be ugly and that may go hand in hand with shallowness and there is educated shallowness swell.
Some may say feeling loved makes you feel beautiful.
Giving love also but if one gives and gives and gets hate in return and isolation..
Blabber blabber.
and best wishes of a true beauty industry also.
A facial may do wonders a couple times a year or once a year.
Caring for self best one can.