"Seriously the best"?

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So...where to begin...long story short...I like a Christian girl who has a boyfriend. I know, I know, I shouldn't. But I feel like I connect with her...and random things happen...I feel prompted to pray for her so I do, then she tells me how she almost died but God stepped in and did something crazy and saved her life. No exaggeration. I feel like she balances me...I'm a serious person and I keep to myself most of the time, and she's energetic and in your face in a joyful and refreshing way. She's not loud and obnoxious but perfect. The things she says are very cute and so is the way she acts...every time I see her a smile breaks across my face.

So anyway, recently I did something for her and she said "You are seriously the best" So being the deep thinker that I am, I'm thinking if "I'm seriously the best" then why is she dating this other guy? There are only a couple options here...Option 1: women aren't looking for the best and it in no way factors into their decision making process of who they date. Option 2: She meant what she said but just didn't really think about it, or comprehend that her statement implies that her
boyfriend can't hold a candle to me. Option 3: She didn't really mean it, she was just grateful for what I did. Option 4: I'm overanalyzing what she said. (most likely option)

Ladies...let me know how to interpret this situation...since I have the mind of a male AKA Neanderthal, I could use a little wisdom.

(Guys can comment too)

Thanks and God bless you in Jesus' name.
 

Liamson

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Rarely does the narrative reflect the situation as it occurs.

As someone who has heard, "I love you" from various women he wasn't dating, I have a conclusion.

When intentions are unclear and titles unknown and the boundaries of language seem to offer more mysteries than discoveries, you need to take the initiative and create the direction and boundaries you are willing to deal with.

Otherwise, you will get walked on and lose respect for yourself.

Rarely will a woman who actually has intentions for you, show you her hand. In other words, if you were the best, she wouldn't tell you, she would show you.


A woman who actually likes you has something to lose. "You're the best" is too much, too fast and tips her hand that she has nothing to lose, because she already has a boyfriend.
 
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I...am impressed. I'm pretty sure you could write a book and it would end up on the New York times bestseller list. Thanks Liamson.
 
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I agree with Liamson. It's a common phrase so I wouldn't read too much into it. Besides, women's signals are so heavily encrypted it would take a supercomputer a couple of centuries to unravel it all to be even vaguely readable.

Don't you think there's some infatuation going on?
 

just_monicat

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So...where to begin...long story short...I like a Christian girl who has a boyfriend. I know, I know, I shouldn't. But I feel like I connect with her...and random things happen...I feel prompted to pray for her so I do, then she tells me how she almost died but God stepped in and did something crazy and saved her life. No exaggeration. I feel like she balances me...I'm a serious person and I keep to myself most of the time, and she's energetic and in your face in a joyful and refreshing way. She's not loud and obnoxious but perfect. The things she says are very cute and so is the way she acts...every time I see her a smile breaks across my face.

So anyway, recently I did something for her and she said "You are seriously the best" So being the deep thinker that I am, I'm thinking if "I'm seriously the best" then why is she dating this other guy? There are only a couple options here...Option 1: women aren't looking for the best and it in no way factors into their decision making process of who they date. Option 2: She meant what she said but just didn't really think about it, or comprehend that her statement implies that her
boyfriend can't hold a candle to me. Option 3: She didn't really mean it, she was just grateful for what I did. Option 4: I'm overanalyzing what she said. (most likely option)

Ladies...let me know how to interpret this situation...since I have the mind of a male AKA Neanderthal, I could use a little wisdom.

(Guys can comment too)

Thanks and God bless you in Jesus' name.
i think you've been given rather accurate advice by liamson.

"you're the best" is a classic statement made by a girl who wants to acknowledge your contribution/action, provide a compliment while not committing to any emotional connection beyond the appreciation.

take it as an acknowledgement of your actions, not in a literal statement. : )

this situation has a lot of moving parts, so i won't speculate too much. but i have one more thought that might help elucidate why a woman would make such a statement.

i've had times where i've been put on the spot by a guy's nice gesture or compliment and i've said all kinds of stupid -- not because i didn't appreciate (or even understand the intent behind a thinly disguised gensture). i just didn't know how to respond at that moment with anything greater than a platitude or generic statement (cringe) and i certainly didn't want to say something that might imply feelings that wasn't there (or at least, something i was unsure of). this is especially true when a guy is totally off your radar.

but no, i can't imagine using the phrase "you're the best" in any circumstance greater than expressing appreciation towards a friend.
 
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Beside your thoughts Liamson, I like how you choose your words and phrase your thoughts in a sentence. Teach you sister here. :D
But don't get me wrong, I like your thoughts too.


Rarely does the narrative reflect the situation as it occurs.

As someone who has heard, "I love you" from various women he wasn't dating, I have a conclusion.

When intentions are unclear and titles unknown and the boundaries of language seem to offer more mysteries than discoveries, you need to take the initiative and create the direction and boundaries you are willing to deal with.

Otherwise, you will get walked on and lose respect for yourself.

Rarely will a woman who actually has intentions for you, show you her hand. In other words, if you were the best, she wouldn't tell you, she would show you.


A woman who actually likes you has something to lose. "You're the best" is too much, too fast and tips her hand that she has nothing to lose, because she already has a boyfriend.
 
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I'd go with option 4 as well triple-seven. Not only that you are over analyzing what she says, but whatever she'll do, you'll over analyze it as well. You are looking at things from a different perspective. From a different angle I should say.

I say that statement all the time "You are the best" it doesn't mean anything romantic, it's just a nice n' sweet gesture, that's all. :eek:


So...where to begin...long story short...I like a Christian girl who has a boyfriend. I know, I know, I shouldn't. But I feel like I connect with her...and random things happen...I feel prompted to pray for her so I do, then she tells me how she almost died but God stepped in and did something crazy and saved her life. No exaggeration. I feel like she balances me...I'm a serious person and I keep to myself most of the time, and she's energetic and in your face in a joyful and refreshing way. She's not loud and obnoxious but perfect. The things she says are very cute and so is the way she acts...every time I see her a smile breaks across my face.

So anyway, recently I did something for her and she said "You are seriously the best" So being the deep thinker that I am, I'm thinking if "I'm seriously the best" then why is she dating this other guy? There are only a couple options here...Option 1: women aren't looking for the best and it in no way factors into their decision making process of who they date. Option 2: She meant what she said but just didn't really think about it, or comprehend that her statement implies that her
boyfriend can't hold a candle to me. Option 3: She didn't really mean it, she was just grateful for what I did. Option 4: I'm overanalyzing what she said. (most likely option)

Ladies...let me know how to interpret this situation...since I have the mind of a male AKA Neanderthal, I could use a little wisdom.

(Guys can comment too)

Thanks and God bless you in Jesus' name.
 
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So...where to begin...long story short...I like a Christian girl who has a boyfriend. I know, I know, I shouldn't. But I feel like I connect with her...and random things happen...I feel prompted to pray for her so I do, then she tells me how she almost died but God stepped in and did something crazy and saved her life. No exaggeration. I feel like she balances me...I'm a serious person and I keep to myself most of the time, and she's energetic and in your face in a joyful and refreshing way. She's not loud and obnoxious but perfect. The things she says are very cute and so is the way she acts...every time I see her a smile breaks across my face.

So anyway, recently I did something for her and she said "You are seriously the best" So being the deep thinker that I am, I'm thinking if "I'm seriously the best" then why is she dating this other guy? There are only a couple options here...Option 1: women aren't looking for the best and it in no way factors into their decision making process of who they date. Option 2: She meant what she said but just didn't really think about it, or comprehend that her statement implies that her
boyfriend can't hold a candle to me. Option 3: She didn't really mean it, she was just grateful for what I did. Option 4: I'm overanalyzing what she said. (most likely option)

Ladies...let me know how to interpret this situation...since I have the mind of a male AKA Neanderthal, I could use a little wisdom.

(Guys can comment too)

Thanks and God bless you in Jesus' name.
Ahhh that old situation.

I remember meeting a girl at a funfair, jet-black hair, brown eyes, the biggest, most beautiful smile ever. Girls always take pictures of themselves pouting around, but I always thought smiles were way better. Anyway, I fell in love with her there and then. She had a boyfriend at the time too.

I remember the way she would look at me sometimes, and literally I melted. For me it was like the two of us were staring into each others souls lol anyway, I started meeting up with her for coffee every weekend.

We'd meet up in town and I'd buy her a coffee, and every week I'd bring along something with me, whether it was a little tube of mascara or a teddy bear keyring, whatever. It was just a little thing that kind of happened. I found myself buying her things, and I didn't really know why.

I'd ask myself, 'what the heck am I doing?' But all the same, I couldn't help it. I couldn't help meeting her, and when the weekend came I was always so excited to see her. I felt drawn.

Now, I should point out that the two of us never discussed her relationship, and we never discussed any feelings between us. We simply met up, as friends, and had a laugh together.

So, after about eight weeks of this she calls me up in tears telling me her boyfriend had broken up with her. So I listened to what she had to say, and as a good person would, I consoled her and all the rest. So about ten minutes later she's not crying anymore and we're actually having a laugh. She says to me 'you make me laugh so much, you're great, thank you'. And I replied 'I think I love you'.

lol.

She was silent for a minute and I actually thought she'd hung up, or wasn't gonna reply, then to my surprise she said 'I think I love you too'. So I was, like, ecstatic. I couldn't contain myself. When we ended the conversation, I honestly felt like a king. We met up for coffee again that weekend, and we decided to take a trip to another funfair. And that night we sat on top of the roof of a building and watched a band play on stage with the fireworks going off in the background and it was honestly one of the best nights of my life.

About three weeks later we 'broke up' and I think I've seen her maybe twice since.

Now, I was absolutely gutted. I literally cried myself to sleep for about a week. How could it be?? What did I do? How did it end?

I wracked my brain over it. And I couldn't figure it out. Then one day it just clicked.

She met me whenever she had a boyfriend. She was already in love with him when we met. The first time I ever met her, I was a friend. And while I may have made her laugh, and I may have made her smile, and I may have been a genuinely good man to her, that's what I was; a friend. And when she broke up with her boyfriend, she needed somebody to replace that.

As soon as the initial grief of the break-up left, she didn't need anybody to replace that anymore.

Now, that might seem very cruel. And I suppose in a way it is, but the truth is, if I had been honest about it all from the start, I wouldn't have gotten myself in the position. If I had listened to my head and said 'this girl has a boyfriend, don't get emotionally invested, your motives aren't right' and actually admitted in myself that I wanted to take her from her boyfriend, I wouldn't have ended up with the heartache that I had.

So words of advice; be careful about getting emotionally involved, and be honest about your intentions.
 
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So...where to begin...long story short...I like a Christian girl who has a boyfriend. I know, I know, I shouldn't. But I feel like I connect with her...and random things happen...I feel prompted to pray for her so I do, then she tells me how she almost died but God stepped in and did something crazy and saved her life. No exaggeration. I feel like she balances me...I'm a serious person and I keep to myself most of the time, and she's energetic and in your face in a joyful and refreshing way. She's not loud and obnoxious but perfect. The things she says are very cute and so is the way she acts...every time I see her a smile breaks across my face.

So anyway, recently I did something for her and she said "You are seriously the best" So being the deep thinker that I am, I'm thinking if "I'm seriously the best" then why is she dating this other guy? There are only a couple options here...Option 1: women aren't looking for the best and it in no way factors into their decision making process of who they date. Option 2: She meant what she said but just didn't really think about it, or comprehend that her statement implies that her
boyfriend can't hold a candle to me. Option 3: She didn't really mean it, she was just grateful for what I did. Option 4: I'm overanalyzing what she said. (most likely option)

Ladies...let me know how to interpret this situation...since I have the mind of a male AKA Neanderthal, I could use a little wisdom.

(Guys can comment too)

Thanks and God bless you in Jesus' name.

Do you have trouble with your perception of things, not just this area of your life?
 
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I don't really have allot to add, most people here have given some good life-earned wisdom of what can happen. The truth is, and I do it myself, we often create narratives for us to be in, and start interpreting things around us in ways we like them to be, like now (and don't get me wrong, I'm sure this lady is very loving, beautiful in looks and character, and full of life) but what you describe seems to be the classic 'in love' goggles that means they seem perfect (and more importantly perfect for us ;) ) and everything can have this romantic narrative and destiny around it. Don't feel worried that you over-analyzed the statement, or that it seems to mean so much more, it is the way our minds work, and sometimes when we are in that great relationship it really is great, but sometimes we can't help creating whole romantic framework for something that isn't that way.

So listen to those above, take a step back and ask God to help give you clarity, and be there for her as a brother in Christ, and love her that way, and possibly consider taking a break at first from being around her as much (that doesn't mean cutting her out your life, please don't do that) just take a break and do some things where she isn't to help get a different perspective. Maybe things will change, but for now, she is with this other guy and it's best to back off a bit and just be a a friend, because that is what is most important.
 
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I suppose I was halfway joking...and pointing out the fact that women throw around a lot of statements that aren't true or at least statements that imply something that isn't and are flirtatious without conviction. I say what I mean and I mean what I say and I think women should too. I know I sound sexist but I'm not. I think more women should have conviction over the way they "treat" "manipulate" men. I could care less how this turns out in the end. I like the girl but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. There are plenty of fish in the sea. The trick is being able to find a good fish.
 
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I suppose I was halfway joking...and pointing out the fact that women throw around a lot of statements that aren't true or at least statements that imply something that isn't and are flirtatious without conviction. I say what I mean and I mean what I say and I think women should too. I know I sound sexist but I'm not. I think more women should have conviction over the way they "treat" "manipulate" men. I could care less how this turns out in the end. I like the girl but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. There are plenty of fish in the sea. The trick is being able to find a good fish.
If men were more honest about the fact that we don't actually find forward, non-feminine, easy women as the kind of women we'd like to spend our lives with, then we might actually realize its men who kinda pressure women into the 'hard-to-get' mindset. Women desire partnership just as much as men, but it becomes extraordinarily difficult given womens' place in society among generally male instituted social conventions.

Think about it from this perspective.

If a really beautiful women came up to you and said 'youre so hot, damn, I want you to marry me. I wanna be your wife and have your kids', I'd be thinking 'this woman is way too easy'.

The same thing. If you really like a woman and you walk up to her and say 'I think you are absolutely beautiful, in fact I want to make you my wife and since I'm really entitled, as a man, you will marry me and I'll love you forever', the woman would probably emigrate to Australia.

You want honesty, but as-well as this, on the other hand, if a woman said to you 'I really don't find you attractive, I'm with someone and to be quite frank you aren't a man I'd marry', it's likely you'd be quite offended.

So here's the trick; understand that as a member of the male gender, you've got the upper hand when it comes to this stuff. There's this myth that women are really manipulative and choosy and picky. In reality, you don't need to have washboard abs, a fat wallet and all the social qualities of Casanova to be attractive.

You just need to realize that you hold all the cards and learn not to throw your hand down all at once. Women have had to learn to do this for centuries, because men, though we don't like to admit it, find a lack of challenge completely boring. Men have never had that turned on them before. So women have about 500 years more experience at doing it.

The thing is, again, human companionship is still dominated by male instituted practices. The only difference nowadays is that women know, and have freedom to, push buttons. This is where people trip up, a lot. Ego.

Cut your ego and curb your offense and you'll find dating a much smoother experience. It's more attractive to be able to laugh and have no reaction to something, than to be the ego-ruled, easily offended man of the past and try to push your way in there with blunt force.

I get rejected now and then, too. And it's usually because, in hindsight, I let my ego and entitlement get in the way.
 
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Technically, I haven't been rejected, I haven't played my hand because we are just friends. I agree though, getting offended is stupid, if a girl liked and dated every guy that pursued her she would be labeled a "slut" A woman has the right to choose, my point is that I refuse to be a guy who is gullible and easily led on.
 
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Over thinking it for sure. However at the same time, she should be more careful what she says just because that can so easily be misconstrued. Also if other guys were doing things for me and i had a boyfriend i'd have to seriously look at my boyfriend and ask why wasn't doing it. This whole thing just doesn't seem right.

One more thing. This does makes me wonder though, how much time are you spending with this girl. (You don't have to answer these questions, they are more rhetorical.) For me to feel like someone balances me, that wouldn't come just from seeing this person from time to time or only talking to him on a Sunday, I don't know, or maybe you just mean that your personality's are different so where you are serious she's not so much. Even so though, to like this girl like you do i just wonder if either you talk to her a lot or your liking is more just infatuation.

Be careful with this, you don't want to do anything stupid.
 
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I think we all (women AND men) say things we don't mean, like "You're the best" or "I love you". I've said those things to friends of both genders when they did something I thought was wonderful.

triple-seven, I'm glad you are respecting her relationship with her boyfriend. If it doesn't work out with him, your respect of their relationship will say a lot to her regarding your character. You could also learn a lot about her by observing the relationship. :) BUT, I'm glad you won't allow yourself to be led on. That's a good thing. You could miss out on someone while pining for someone else. :)
 
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Over thinking it for sure. However at the same time, she should be more careful what she says just because that can so easily be misconstrued. Also if other guys were doing things for me and i had a boyfriend i'd have to seriously look at my boyfriend and ask why wasn't doing it. This whole thing just doesn't seem right.

One more thing. This does makes me wonder though, how much time are you spending with this girl. (You don't have to answer these questions, they are more rhetorical.) For me to feel like someone balances me, that wouldn't come just from seeing this person from time to time or only talking to him on a Sunday, I don't know, or maybe you just mean that your personality's are different so where you are serious she's not so much. Even so though, to like this girl like you do i just wonder if either you talk to her a lot or your liking is more just infatuation.

Be careful with this, you don't want to do anything stupid.
This sentence made me chuckle lol.

'Hey Fred! You know this guy Jimmy does all this stuff for me, and YOU don't even bother!'


.........


'Where does this Jimmy live?'
 
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hahaha lol See that's what I'm talking about. Why am I the one who is prompted to pray for her and not her boyfriend? And the one going out of my way for her, and not her boyfriend? She's probably wondering the same thing. But yeah, I'm not too worried about it. If she's smart, and her boyfriend is clearly not the Lord's best or a gift from Him, she will have the wits to recognize it.

There MAY have been a smidge of infatuation but I'm letting it go. Eyes on the Lord, moving forward.
 
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UPDATE: I may have a bigger problem at hand...this girl I'm talking about works with me...well, this guy at work brought her up in conversation, basically called her slut and said that he's going to make it his goal to get her into bed, he then proceeded to go on about all the Christian girls he's slept with and how her being a Christian doesn't mean anything...my fist may have been clinched...I resisted but if I see this guy hitting on her, there's a possibility that I will lay him out and wipe the floor with him...

my problems just escalated from mild angst to potential man-slaughter...any prayers or insight will be appreciated.
 
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Praying that God will protect her from this man and open her eyes to his true character. He clearly doesn't care a thing about her.