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Not in particular, but everytime someone is like I'll just sit here and wait, well it makes me think of this joke
There was a huge flood in a village. One man said to everyone as they evacuated, “I’ll stay! God will save me!”
The flood got higher and a boat came, and the man in it said “Come on mate, get in!” “No” replied the man. “God will save me!”
The flood got very high now and the man had to stand on the roof of his house. A helicopter soon came and the man offered him help. “No, God will save me!” he said.
Eventually the man drown. He got by the gates of heaven and he said to God, “Why didn’t you save me?”
God replied, “For goodness sake! I sent a boat and a helicopter. What more do you want!”
Besides I'm of the opinion that people with this view actually miss the people in there life because they are looking for the wrong things.
There was a huge flood in a village. One man said to everyone as they evacuated, “I’ll stay! God will save me!”
The flood got higher and a boat came, and the man in it said “Come on mate, get in!” “No” replied the man. “God will save me!”
The flood got very high now and the man had to stand on the roof of his house. A helicopter soon came and the man offered him help. “No, God will save me!” he said.
Eventually the man drown. He got by the gates of heaven and he said to God, “Why didn’t you save me?”
God replied, “For goodness sake! I sent a boat and a helicopter. What more do you want!”
Besides I'm of the opinion that people with this view actually miss the people in there life because they are looking for the wrong things.
The 'joke', which is actually very similar to one of my favorite songs, is focused on something other than what I have been suggesting. I'm suggesting that seeking a wife/husband is the wrong way to go about doing things. The focus of my waiting is waiting for God to show His will in the situation. The man in your joke was not seeking God's will, but rather trying to impose his will on God's hand. There's a distinction that needs to be made here. We are commanded to seek God's will repeatedly throughout the Bible. To demonstrate this difference, if the man in your story was seeking God's will, his cry would instead be 'It is God's will for me to remain here.' And when he gets to the gates of heaven, God would say 'Well done my good and faithful servant.' Biblically, everything we have, even our very life itself, is a gift from God. I can say that I truly have no death wish, but I would stay in a flood to the death if God asked me to. Trusting that somehow through my presence there others would be saved.
In relationships then, I would feel blessed to have a woman in my life. But I also know that if I seek a woman out of my own desire to be blessed in this way, it is folly. So I will wait on the Lord, to my very last day. If God's will is for me to stay single and give all of the extra money that comes with that to the poor, I will do so joyfully and without regret.
All I know is that God commanded us to seek His will, and His righteousness, first. To deny ourselves, to daily follow Him. I know that every good thing comes from God and that the only way I can truly do good is by following His will. So, I wait on the Lord and trust that for me, for now, my singleness is greater than marriage.
So what do you think these people who 'miss the people in their life' should be looking for instead?
In relationships then, I would feel blessed to have a woman in my life. But I also know that if I seek a woman out of my own desire to be blessed in this way, it is folly. So I will wait on the Lord, to my very last day. If God's will is for me to stay single and give all of the extra money that comes with that to the poor, I will do so joyfully and without regret.
All I know is that God commanded us to seek His will, and His righteousness, first. To deny ourselves, to daily follow Him. I know that every good thing comes from God and that the only way I can truly do good is by following His will. So, I wait on the Lord and trust that for me, for now, my singleness is greater than marriage.
So what do you think these people who 'miss the people in their life' should be looking for instead?
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I'm more of a go and get em personality I guess. I'm tired of letting stuff just happen and letting all kinds of unfair things happen just because i didn't want to step on toes or I thoughts someone else would be fair.
We should seek the kingdom of God first, but I don't plan on letting this life be a chore until i get to heaven. I'd like to think that God will bless me with things if I and try to get them. He can't just hand you a new car unless you go looking for one. And he won't just hand you a wife unless you're open to having one. and maybe you're brave enough to ask a woman out but i know a LOT of guys who are really shy and think that the girl wouldn't even give them the time of day. does it hurt to let them know? if the other party isn't interested then you go on about your day. its not like you should become a stalker. ^_^.
We should seek the kingdom of God first, but I don't plan on letting this life be a chore until i get to heaven. I'd like to think that God will bless me with things if I and try to get them. He can't just hand you a new car unless you go looking for one. And he won't just hand you a wife unless you're open to having one. and maybe you're brave enough to ask a woman out but i know a LOT of guys who are really shy and think that the girl wouldn't even give them the time of day. does it hurt to let them know? if the other party isn't interested then you go on about your day. its not like you should become a stalker. ^_^.
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I appreciate your position to HONOR the Lord. I want to make it clear I am not trying to wrest your "waiting" from you but for the audience I do think it is important to point out... The first Directive to man from God was to MARRY and build families. When men have these discussions about "waiting" it does give me pause regarding "WHAT" he is waiting for.... and I hope it is NOT fora woman to approach him. Few men are intended to be eunuchs before the Lord... so purposing to find a wife using the tools given in biblical principals if the most "logical way" to go about it as opposed to the "passivity waiting" aluded to by someone else.
"my guess is that someone you always dream of is somewhere out there. you better go get him/her"
Someone posted this in the thread...it sounds good to most people...but God tends to work in the opposite way most times I believe.
The ones in scripture who went and took a partner were the men. They were proactive not the women. The only women in scripture who were proactive in seeking a man were either prostitutes or adultresses.
Unless of course you think of Mary who sought the ONE place to be..at the feet of Jesus Christ.
There is something upside down and back the front nowadays about women courting men..agressively. They have moved from trusting and being like Sarah who called her husband Lord...to being like Jezabel who was married to a wimp who could not hear God.
No..it is always best to wait for love my amorous friends.
The moment you realise you do not want to wait for God to do it...you should know that it is the flesh and the flesh will always lead you into barreness and trouble and vexation.
I could quote a million scriptures but the Holy Ghost will show you if you truly lay it all down at his feet and ask Him for ONLY his will to be done in your life.
He/she who has ears to hear let him hear!
Someone posted this in the thread...it sounds good to most people...but God tends to work in the opposite way most times I believe.
The ones in scripture who went and took a partner were the men. They were proactive not the women. The only women in scripture who were proactive in seeking a man were either prostitutes or adultresses.
Unless of course you think of Mary who sought the ONE place to be..at the feet of Jesus Christ.
There is something upside down and back the front nowadays about women courting men..agressively. They have moved from trusting and being like Sarah who called her husband Lord...to being like Jezabel who was married to a wimp who could not hear God.
No..it is always best to wait for love my amorous friends.
The moment you realise you do not want to wait for God to do it...you should know that it is the flesh and the flesh will always lead you into barreness and trouble and vexation.
I could quote a million scriptures but the Holy Ghost will show you if you truly lay it all down at his feet and ask Him for ONLY his will to be done in your life.
He/she who has ears to hear let him hear!
Because of this:
From Matthew 6:33
But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
And because I know that every morning I ask God for one thing. That He not allow me to stray from His will. That no matter how much I like or dislike it, He lead me where He would want me to go. As the disciples were told to pray (6:9):
This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven..."
So, if it is God's will for me to blessed with a wife, and the only way I can have a wife is if I make a move, then His will must be that I make a move. So, if I'm seeking God's will, then I'll make a move when its needed.
From Matthew 6:33
But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
And because I know that every morning I ask God for one thing. That He not allow me to stray from His will. That no matter how much I like or dislike it, He lead me where He would want me to go. As the disciples were told to pray (6:9):
This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven..."
So, if it is God's will for me to blessed with a wife, and the only way I can have a wife is if I make a move, then His will must be that I make a move. So, if I'm seeking God's will, then I'll make a move when its needed.
I am not waiting for God to bring me a husband.
Instead, I am (hopefully) trying to stay within His will in ALL areas of my life. If His will for me includes marriage, then awesome! If it doesn't, then that's awesome, too. I don't want to be in a relationship that's outside of His will.
I am not opposed to "making a move" if I think that God wants me to, but I do think that guys are generally meant to be a bit more proactive than girls are....it's just how God set things up.
Instead, I am (hopefully) trying to stay within His will in ALL areas of my life. If His will for me includes marriage, then awesome! If it doesn't, then that's awesome, too. I don't want to be in a relationship that's outside of His will.
I am not opposed to "making a move" if I think that God wants me to, but I do think that guys are generally meant to be a bit more proactive than girls are....it's just how God set things up.
Ruth followed Boaz to the threshing floor where he slept and got under the blankets by his feet. That act let him know that she was willing for him to redeem her. She didn't ask him to marry her, but that simple act of submission let him know she was willing to be led by him. In my opinion, I don't think women should ask men out, but rather let them know by their actions that they are willing to be with them in a relationship. Hopefully those actions will speak louder than any words ever could!
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It is just a detail, but old fashioned doesn't necessarily mean righteous... Just keep that in mind 
And I don't know about apathetic guys. Denying yourself for Christ is FAR from apathetic in my books. But I don't know them, so maybe that's not what you're experiencing. :S
And I don't know about apathetic guys. Denying yourself for Christ is FAR from apathetic in my books. But I don't know them, so maybe that's not what you're experiencing. :S
And apathetic not in faith but in all aspects regarding his role in a relationship with a woman. There are many Christian men who are trained to be "the nice guy", the passive man who won't make the first move, scared to death of confrontation and reject so he doesn't even try. He won't fight. Therefore he get's friendzoned all the time and asks God "why?" at the end of the day. That's just the single nice guy. The married or in a relationship nice guy is a whole other problem.
Yes, and I meant that just because you're old fashioned it doesn't mean that your actions based on 'old fashioned ideologies' are righteous. You seem to be using that as justification for your actions, or lack there of. I was attempting to remind you that just because your ideologies are from the past, it doesn't necessarily mean that they line up with God's.
And I'm glad to know that I'm not an apathetic man. Thanks for clarifying.
And I'm glad to know that I'm not an apathetic man.
Thanks for clarifying.