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Tintin

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Definitely better than I was, thanks for asking! I shamelessly took off the rest of the week to "recover" though lol.
Ah. Good on you, brother. That's great to hear. Enjoy yourself! I'm off to bed.
 
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I just read something an old photographer wrote...

He said that he's traveled all over the world and has met many people and the most fascinating thing he found was that all the most talented, passionate, sensitive and interesting people he met all lived with low self-esteem..

This inspires me.
 

melita916

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thunderstorm last night woke me up. thankfully, i was able to fall back asleep.

it is currently a sunny and beautiful day.
 

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I just read something an old photographer wrote...

He said that he's traveled all over the world and has met many people and the most fascinating thing he found was that all the most talented, passionate, sensitive and interesting people he met all lived with low self-esteem..

This inspires me.
I'm developing a theory on this (mostly based on my perceptions vs. reality) and it goes something like those areas that come easy to us, where we are naturally above average, we have a harder time of conceiving of what average really is because it's hard to imagine not being able to do something that comes so naturally to us.

End result is that we don't know where we are truly above average and so rate ourselves with a lot of averages and below averages, while other people we look at and see their strengths in our weak areas but can't quite imagine that they could be weak on the easy things (the areas we're strong in) so we rate them as average to above average in most things.

So we overestimate others, underestimate ourselves, and feel inferior as a result.

At least that's my theory and I'm sticking to it (at least until someone provides a compelling argument for an alternative view).
 

JosephsDreams

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I'm developing a theory on this (mostly based on my perceptions vs. reality) and it goes something like those areas that come easy to us, where we are naturally above average, we have a harder time of conceiving of what average really is because it's hard to imagine not being able to do something that comes so naturally to us.

End result is that we don't know where we are truly above average and so rate ourselves with a lot of averages and below averages, while other people we look at and see their strengths in our weak areas but can't quite imagine that they could be weak on the easy things (the areas we're strong in) so we rate them as average to above average in most things.

So we overestimate others, underestimate ourselves, and feel inferior as a result.

At least that's my theory and I'm sticking to it (at least until someone provides a compelling argument for an alternative view).
I agree whole heartedly. And with Zeroturbulance's remark about what a old photographer wrote.
I have seen it time and time again.
 
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All I know is that for me, I try to excel at things that I love because it makes me feel better about myself. When I proved to myself that I could reach a certain level of skill in photography, drumming, drawing, make the dean's list, achieving a 3.9 GPA in college, etc... it really helps me offset the fact that in other people's eyes I will almost always be seen as slow and weak, unattractive and a failure..
 
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coby2

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I'm developing a theory on this (mostly based on my perceptions vs. reality) and it goes something like those areas that come easy to us, where we are naturally above average, we have a harder time of conceiving of what average really is because it's hard to imagine not being able to do something that comes so naturally to us.

End result is that we don't know where we are truly above average and so rate ourselves with a lot of averages and below averages, while other people we look at and see their strengths in our weak areas but can't quite imagine that they could be weak on the easy things (the areas we're strong in) so we rate them as average to above average in most things.

So we overestimate others, underestimate ourselves, and feel inferior as a result.

At least that's my theory and I'm sticking to it (at least until someone provides a compelling argument for an alternative view).
I recently talked about it with my brother how we always think we can't do anything. I draw maps. He translates. He's really good in it, but others just think they're everything for in fact doing the same. We're like: yeah well it's simple work. I just draw maps. I just translate. But a collegue who did exactly the same work as me blablablablabla it was such responsible work, he needed a raise, he did this, had that quality. They talk so much that you think: wow man I can never do that until they let you, they first won't, only the ones with the big mouth get the jobs and you're like: ehmm okay is this it? This is just simple stupid work. I thought you were so smart the way you talked. You're just as stupid as me lol.
 
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You mean you get to stay in a new and exotic location, right? I mean Pennsylvania's got mountains and that King's restaurant place where they had awesome cinnamon ice cream.
could care less what PA has, I am supposed to be home every night
 

DuchessAimee

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I'm developing a theory on this (mostly based on my perceptions vs. reality) and it goes something like those areas that come easy to us, where we are naturally above average, we have a harder time of conceiving of what average really is because it's hard to imagine not being able to do something that comes so naturally to us.

End result is that we don't know where we are truly above average and so rate ourselves with a lot of averages and below averages, while other people we look at and see their strengths in our weak areas but can't quite imagine that they could be weak on the easy things (the areas we're strong in) so we rate them as average to above average in most things.

So we overestimate others, underestimate ourselves, and feel inferior as a result.

At least that's my theory and I'm sticking to it (at least until someone provides a compelling argument for an alternative view).


This is actually a theory by Freud called an inferiority complex. Other psychologists and psychiatrists have expounded on the theory, but Freud was the original.
 

DuchessAimee

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All I know is that for me, I try to excel at things that I love because it makes me feel better about myself. When I proved to myself that I could reach a certain level of skill in photography, drumming, drawing, make the dean's list, achieving a 3.9 GPA in college, etc... it really helps me offset the fact that in other people's eyes I will almost always be seen as slow and weak, unattractive and a failure..


At some point you'll have to decide other people just don't matter. Someone will always have a problem with you, and their opinion can't mean anything to you. Yes, I know it's easier said than done, but if you don't get off this slope, you may never be able to get yourself out of the depression you're in.


Other people's acceptance and approval isn't love.
 

Lynx

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Maybe I'm normal then. Or at least more normal than I thought, because I don't seem to have very low self esteem. Mind you I don't believe I'm all that and a snocone either, but I also don't think I suck.

Lots of people have expressed how intelligent they think I am though. But if I don't have an inferiority complex, maybe they were wrong.

Actually I'm pretty sure they were wrong. Because most of the people who think I'm so smart, I think they're pretty smart too. I have observed a lot - one of my hobbies is observing people, en masse and individuals - and I've noticed a lot of people are good at certain things and bad at other things. And while some things are automatically tagged by culture as "things a smart person knows how to do" I think my mechanic is smarter than I about my car. That's why I pay him instead of learning how to fix everything about my car myself. By the same token I wouldn't want him tinkering with one of my computers. But some of the things I can do well are things society has labeled "smart person territory." So people think I'm smarter than the average person. (Boy do THEY ever have a surprise coming!) :p
 
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At some point you'll have to decide other people just don't matter. Someone will always have a problem with you, and their opinion can't mean anything to you. Yes, I know it's easier said than done, but if you don't get off this slope, you may never be able to get yourself out of the depression you're in.


Other people's acceptance and approval isn't love.
Thanks Aimee, but I'm not in a depression (been there, done that). I'm more in a "this world sucks, but I still love pizza and chocolate" state of mind..