Things I Wish Married People Would Consider When "Witnessing" To Singles.

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well, same can be said for people who are single now but have not always been single preaching to be about how to "not give up" "it will happen some day" ect ect.

to be frank, only single people should be in a "single room" anyway. no married people no people with bf/gf. single only.

I don't doubt that some guys have done what you said. but women can be just as bad.
 

seoulsearch

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I don't doubt that some guys have done what you said. but women can be just as bad.
Of course, Wise. And as I said, this thread it not gender-specific at all.

For any of you single men out there who have married women trying to PM you about their sex lives or anything else inappropriate, please block and report them immediately.

As Aimee and iTORE pointed out, Wise, the reason why we are mentioning men here is because that's what we've seen in the Singles room. The minute I see a married woman spouting off like this or approaching the single men inappropriately, I'll be sure to say something to her, just for you. :) (But I would have anyway, just so that you can rest assured.) :)

Plus, I give you kudos for even reading this thread! Since you state that you don't read long walls of text... I was shocked that you even read my original post. But, I'm glad you did and am happy to see you participating here. :) Come join us in chat sometime if you can!
 
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I stay out of chat honestly. not really my thing.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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One other thing concerning chat & married people...

My ex-wife & I met one another via the internet on a chat site called Virtual Places by Excite. (this place has now been long since bought out & is a pay service called Halsoft) We both had mutual friends & got to know one another through chatting. This went on for 2 years,which during that time I ventured to the U.K. twice. Once for 3 months to live with her/meet her in person...meet her friends/family. Then the second time for 2 weeks,and that was for our wedding.

Her & I both agreed long before the wedding or even plans of one,was that we'd not be one of "those" couples that still hung out in chat rooms while their significant other wasn't home,or even at all for that matter. We'd "found" one another,and there was no reason for us to be in chat rooms chatting to anyone,let alone people of the opposite sex.

The good friends we'd made in our few years in chat,we got their personal info,and as a COUPLE we would engage in talking to or spending time with these people. Our relationship was transparent. Neither her,nor I ever once in the 9 years we were married talked in chat rooms again. Now if me being a Christian & her being unsaved can have that sort of integrity,I often wonder why many of these men don't
bring their wives into chat with them.

Personally,I'd respect that a whole lot more,and might stop & listen to what they had to say.
 
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To seoulsearch and all of you, This has been an interesting read for me. The thread I had laid in my lap is,"The letter to the Romans". Your thread caught my eye by a troubling post that made me think, these people need to study the great book of Romans and ground their lives in God. After reading your thread, I see you are very grounded in you "ministry" to singles and to the married. I am not sure, but I would like to know, are you a singles pastora? You gave me much help in relating to singles. I was widowed after 40 rough years of marriage, but had many wonderful yrs with my first wife. We raised 4 children, one girl gave me "hell" on earth. And my wife sided with her. After getting our daughter off to college, life was much better with our last two children. Our oldest was a boy, and he was out of the home, and so the family problem did not effect him too bad; But, he has never married,46 yrs old. Why?? But the youngest child, a boy, lived thru the troubling time at home and has been homosexual all his adult life, so far, 38 yrs old. Why?? Both girls have good married lives. Why?? I am not welcome in any of their four homes. It would seem, the older daughter keeps the trouble stirred and my two son's in law hate my theology. Also, I have been a lay pastor, all my life, with great, strong convictions of the whole word of God, and many pastors have rejected my thinking. I am in deep prayer for my children. Before my wife died she denounced me as unfit for the ministry and after her death I lost many of our friends. I was single for 8 months, visited a fiend in the Philippnes and remarried a youny pastorain 07 and God has greatly blessed our ministry to the poor. But in usa I am toally rejected. But in my sorrow i rejoy in Christ. (
sorry, my pc is missing up) Love to all, Hoffco
 
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I could not finish my post. My point is: we all have problems, learn to bloom where God has planted you . Ground your life, single or married in God, Jesus. And if you have a desire to married seek a spouse, But, accept God's will only. Love to all. Hoffco
 
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What I'd like to see happen in Single's Chat is for those married folks to experience 1 year in divorce court for every 5 years they've been married. Then, let's see exactly what wisdom ya'll really have. :D


 

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However, I have seen MANY married men come in and camp out. There are two in particular who come in and Jesus Juke the conversations. A couple of nights ago a guy was talking about being a single parent, and yet, he's never been one. For those who are single parents, it was a slap in the face. Luckily one of our regulars politely told that married gentleman to make tracks.
If there are married men hanging out in Singles chat report them to a Mod. If no Mods are on send me a screen shot of the room via CC mail noting who the offender was and they will be dealt with (not necessarily banned but definitely warned). The rules specifically state that the Singles room is for singles (technically 18 and over) only.
 
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What I'd like to see happen in Single's Chat is for those married folks to experience 1 year in divorce court for every 5 years they've been married. Then, let's see exactly what wisdom ya'll really have. :D
Preach it, sister.
 

Fenner

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One odd thing I've noticed is that it always seems to be Married men coming into chat & "giving advice" to the single women. I've never yet seen one married woman come in and address single men about marriage & singleness OR a married man address other men. I just find it a bit odd & suspicious.

That is kind of odd. I'm usually asleep or trying to get others to sleep at the busy time in there. I don't really know if I'm the beat advice giver, everyone has a different perspective on things and I don't like sounding like a know it all.
 

Fenner

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Re: Things I Wish Married People Would Consider When "Witnessing" To Singles.

well, same can be said for people who are single now but have not always been single preaching to be about how to "not give up" "it will happen some day" ect ect.

to be frank, only single people should be in a "single room" anyway. no married people no people with bf/gf. single only.

I don't doubt that some guys have done what you said. but women can be just as bad.

I go in there to chat, not to give advice.
 

seoulsearch

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I go in there to chat, not to give advice.
Fenner, you've always been very considerate, encouraging, and downright fun to hang out with here. It's why I said in my original posts that you're one of my favorite married people in Singles. :)

I especially love when you talk about your own family life--I learn a lot from your posts. God bless! *hugs*
 

Fenner

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Fenner, you've always been very considerate, encouraging, and downright fun to hang out with here. It's why I said in my original posts that you're one of my favorite married people in Singles. :)

I especially love when you talk about your own family life--I learn a lot from your posts. God bless! *hugs*

Thanks Seoul, you're one of my favorites too. :)
 

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My old pastor always says (and he will admit to stealing this) that marriage is like flies on a screen door; those on the outside want in, and those on the inside want out.
 
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Good thoughts here. I'm very lucky to not know many married folks who behave in the manner that has been mentioned here. Most of the Christian married couples I know are very humble and don't lord their "status" over those who are unmarried
The singles ministry at my church is led by a married couple, but I haven't seen any of this stereotypically annoying behavior. In every way, there are simply a brother and sister in Christ who happen to be married. Yes, they nurture this marriage and hold it in high esteem, but I have never seen them be condescending towards an unmarried person. Most of our discussions aren't about dating/marriage at all, but when we occasionally go over those topics, the pastor and his wife are so humble in their approach that we all feel so comfortable asking questions, sharing our hopes, and even our concerns and doubts.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Good thoughts here. I'm very lucky to not know many married folks who behave in the manner that has been mentioned here. Most of the Christian married couples I know are very humble and don't lord their "status" over those who are unmarried
The singles ministry at my church is led by a married couple, but I haven't seen any of this stereotypically annoying behavior. In every way, there are simply a brother and sister in Christ who happen to be married. Yes, they nurture this marriage and hold it in high esteem, but I have never seen them be condescending towards an unmarried person. Most of our discussions aren't about dating/marriage at all, but when we occasionally go over those topics, the pastor and his wife are so humble in their approach that we all feel so comfortable asking questions, sharing our hopes, and even our concerns and doubts.
...and that's how a singles ministry in a church should be led! Sounds like a great church family you have there LNF.
 

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Two big lessons that I learned after a few years into my marriage:

1. A woman always gets the last word in an argument and anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

2. When my wife comes home after having a terrible day at work and she tells me about everything that went wrong that day, don't try to fix her problems, just listen to her and console her.
 
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The fourth one stands out to me, because there are in fact many single moms and in some cases dads and they're not given enough credit for doing it alone. Not only if you look down and comment on them would be degrading on the parent, it can also be on the kid(s) because they may have had that other parent abandon them. You don't know their case. I remember reading one person's story where they were young (early twenties) but were watching a little kid that wasn't theirs and they brought the little kid to the store with them, and someone made a comment right at their faces complaining how their taxes were going towards young parents who 'were not careful' to kids like them. That's how careless people can be whether if this were to be true or not.


Not only are you insulting the single parent, you're also insulting the kid(s) because you don't know their story behind the matter. They're the ones suffering the most from what I've seen. They may have had their other parent leave and not want anything to do with the kid and can one imagine how it must feel to a child to not have their other parent around and wonder why and you bringing your two cents into play to say stuff like that. I've met many who have this case and yes more does process to the kids than adults may think. It sticks with them. Keep those type of judgments to yourself.
 
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I have been on CC for almost three years, and I've been in the singles room almost every night since people have decided to populate it. I haven't ever seen a married female in the singles room.


However, I have seen MANY married men come in and camp out. There are two in particular who come in and Jesus Juke the conversations. A couple of nights ago a guy was talking about being a single parent, and yet, he's never been one. For those who are single parents, it was a slap in the face. Luckily one of our regulars politely told that married gentleman to make tracks.



Honestly, I don't mind hanging out with married people. Most of my friends in town are married. But I don't get why OLDER married men find the need to come into the singles room. And like seoulsearch mentioned, it's very creepy to get PMs from older married men who want to talk about their sex life.
Hmm.. i've seen married women in singles chat.
 
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Hey Singles!

If you're feeling alone and need people to talk to who can relate to your status in life, please come to the Singles Chat room in the evenings. We've had many nights of great discussions and honest sharing so please feel welcome to join in.

One of the trends I've noticed is that occasionally we will have older married men who, bless their hearts, come into the room and try to embark on a "Married Person's Pep Talk For Singles" that almost always has the same elements and themes: "Just follow the Lord,put Him first, seek His direction, enjoy this time in your life when you can put all your attention on Him, and someday, (don't lose hope now! C'mon, muster up that faith!), you can be in the Superior Christian Position of Being a Married Person Just Like Me!!!"

It often feels like someone is doing this to make a mark on their "Things I've Done For the Lord Today" checklist. You know... Holding open a door for an older person. Check. Making cookies for the church potluck. Check. Correcting poor foolish mortals in the Bible Discussion forum. Check. And, to complete the list, there's always, "Tell Single People How to Become Married People in 5 Easy Jesus-Following Steps." One BIG check if you're able to share this with an ENTIRE room full of singles.

Now, I am not trying to be disrespectful to married people at all. We have SEVERAL married people who post here and offer very helpful advice, perspectives, and encouragement. I hope she won't be upset that I'm mentioning her, but Fenner immediately comes to my mind because she's always kind, non-judgmental, and respects that we are all in equally valuable stages of life. I love her posts and am very grateful she joins us here. I consider her to be a mentor.

What I'm talking about is when Married's Ultimately See Themselves in a Position That is Better Than, or Highly Coveted By Singles. This is most definitely not the case.

Here are some things I really wish Married's would take into consideration when witnessing to Singles:

1. Please get to know us as individuals and not The Great Mass of Singles because we are all in very different stages of our lives with different spiritual and emotional needs. Some singles are entering college or facing independence for the first time, some are raising children, some are paying mortgages and own businesses. Single does NOT necessarily mean young, inexperienced, or naive. Please do not talk down to us. Many of us were married. Yup. We were Once Like You but our spouses died, abandoned us, or left us for someone else.

2. Not all Singles Aspire to Married People as the Ultimate Thing to Be. Many of us have learned to be content in our single lives and for some of us, it may be a calling. For you to tell us what we need to do to be like you as if we need or want to be married could be going against God's own will and plan for our lives.

3. Marriage is not superior to being Single, and neither is singleness superior to marriage. Paul talks about the many benefits of being single, but of course, some of us do hope to marry someday. But that does not mean we are in an inferior position and need to be talked down to. In fact, you don't even need to assume that we want to be married--as I said, get to know us as individuals instead of lumping us all into big ball of Desperately Hoping to Marry.

4. Single Parenthood is Something to Be Highly Respected. Please remember to ENCOURAGE single parents, not tear them down or tell them their family unit is inferior. Always remember that their job is hard enough. Thank you. The world is full of things that haven't gone according to God's original plan but that doesn't mean we should look down on them. Do you realize that Jesus' Suffering and Death was NOT part of God's original plan? God originally meant for human beings to love, obey, and be with Him forever with no death or suffering involved. But just because a Different Plan comes into being does not mean it is somehow not blessed by God or incapable of being complete. At the cross, John was asked to take Jesus' mother home and care for her as his own mother. Joseph, it must be assumed, had passed away. I once heard a pastor point out that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, might very well have been a Single Mother herself for a considerable amount of time to Jesus and His siblings.

I have met many Singles who may be doing things other Marrieds would not consider, such as fostering and adopting children on their own. Of course some marrieds do this as well, but I feel especially blessed when I meet other singles who are willing to open their lives to the needs of children. How can that not be of God? God fills in every blank and one of His specialties is bringing broken situations into wholeness... in ways we don't always understand or expect.

5. If you are Married and Witnessing to a Single, please remember that it is a two-way street. Sure, the single person can learn from you, but there is also much to be learned from someone who is single. Please treat us as someone you can learn from, too. When you tell us what we need to be doing, ask US what you can be doing as well. It is very much a two-way street--please, always remember that.

One thing that irks me is that Married people seem to forget... God brings two people together in marriage and they become one--yes. But, when it is time to call people into their eternal home, God very rarely calls married couples together at the same time.

Marrieds, please keep in mind. There is a good chance that someday, You. Will. Be. Single. And in today's world, it's very possible that you may have several years or decades left of this life here on earth, and you might be single for the rest of that time. I might not be like You, but I can tell you what it's like to sleep and live alone for 11 years as an adult single. Always remember that a day may come when YOU are the single parent or person sitting alone in church--how would you want people to approach you?

When my Grandpa lost my beloved Grandma after 64 years of marriage, he told me, "Honey, I don't see how you've done it all these years." I told him that one thing he can carry with him forever is that my Grandma loved him with all her heart. The only reason their marriage ended was because God intervened. In my case, along with separation and having to adjust to a new life, I had to accept the fact that the reason my marriage ended is because he had decided he loved someone else.

When talking to us, please consider how you'd feel if someone was telling you everything in the same manner as you are talking to us if you were single. We appreciate that you want to help and encourage us. But please consider that we are people and individuals too.

Thoughts, comments, feedback? I more than welcome them, whether single or married. All I ask for is mutual respect. Remember that in the Body of Christ, we are all equal. Thank you!
Number four made me cry - thanks for sharing what was on your heart, seoulsearch.