Would you date someone who's got a terminal or mental disease?

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Jullianna

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Some people can handle this, some people can't. It certainly takes God's strength and patience.

Have done it before. Would do it again. Love is worth it.
 
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Ho11y

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wow. that's quite a response. i'd hate to think what would happen if you struggled with depression or something like that and read this by another poster. i'm sure it would really make your day.
Lav, i've had post traumatic stress disorder and an anxiety/panic disorder since i was a child. Not only that, i was raised by an un medicated schizophrenic and a very mentally ill grandmother who would tell us stories of her mother foaming at the mouth and chasing them around a corn field with a butcher knife. (My great grandmother had a tumor pressing on her pituitary gland which caused her mental illness.) Growing up I would visit my mom in TPI (a psychiatric institute. She was suicidal and had debilitating anxiety and depression) and one of my brothers, when he wasn't home banging his head up against his bedroom wall, threatning to overdose on his medication, threatning to strangle us with a seat belt, or bash our heads into a window... Well, we'd go visit him over in the next building. The mental institute for children and teenagers.
And THIS is how i got PTSD and a panic/anxiety disorder. Living with people who were sick in the head and made very VERY bad decisions.

SO... i will say again...

No. That's setting yourself up for stress, hurt, sadness, disappointment.. etc.. etc... I especially wouldn't date anyone with a mental illness. I'm assuming that's what you meant by mental disease.

With mental illness you never know what you're going to get. People are already crazy.... add a mental illness into the mix and it's just a disaster.

I would actually date someone with cancer or AIDS over a person with a mental illness.


I will also add this... I don't care what mental illness the guy has. I run the other direction.
 
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Roh_Chris

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I completely understand what you're saying, but the thing is, how do you know that she doesn't struggle with these things?

I've struggled with depression all my life, including things like cutting and suicide attempts. I understand Holly's point of view because for me, and I speak only for me, not her, but I know how difficult it's been in my own life. I could not feasibly at this point take care of both myself and another person with the same issues. We might very likely wind up committing suicide together, and I say that in all seriousness because I myself would be very hesitant about dating someone with severe depression.
Exactly, seoulsearch! I am dealing with my life and my problems which are too much for me to handle. To date someone who would need my support and energy will be very difficult on me physically, spiritually and emotionally.

In hindsight, I think such sensitive questions must be avoided on a public forum. Although there is no right or wrong answer to such a question, it can cause some tensions and misunderstanding. Such questions are better answered in PM.
 

jsr1221

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Well first of all mental illnesses range completely anywhere. You can't group them together. Second, none of those are mental illnesses. So I hope that's not what you were referring to. Having said that, a mental illness shouldn't define a person. Yes, someone like me that has anxiety is completely different from someone threatening the lives of themselves and others. That's why there are mental institutions. One of which I visited as part of a class, and it was one of the best experiences of my life. There are parents diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. Yet they are ten times the parents of those who are "regular". It all depends on the person and the serverity of the illness. Each one is different in its own way. We shouldn't be trying to group them together. God loves them just as much as He loves us. So why shouldn't we?
 

Tinkerbell725

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Exactly, seoulsearch! I am dealing with my life and my problems which are too much for me to handle. To date someone who would need my support and energy will be very difficult on me physically, spiritually and emotionally.

In hindsight, I think such sensitive questions must be avoided on a public forum. Although there is no right or wrong answer to such a question, it can cause some tensions and misunderstanding. Such questions are better answered in PM.
EXACTLY...love is supposed to hurt. Can you imagine how Jesus hurt on the cross because of loving crazy people like us?
 
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Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above. (James 1:17)

If God will bring me a gift, even if it looks like a burden. Who am I not to accept? Some blessings are in disguise and if you reject them you will never know the will of God for you which is to prosper you and not to harm you.
Oh! Oh!

I hope, like everyone else, to be a gift, not a burdensome blessing. :)
 
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Ho11y

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it's good when completely heartless people just make it obvious they're living without a heart... makes it a lot easier than trying to figure out if someone has no sense of compassion. i guess i should be grateful when people don't hide that fact about themselves, though i'm used to narcissists and sociopaths (and psychopaths) trying to hide their mental illnesses.

you're right... we live in a crazy world and if that kind of response is normal i guess so is mental illness then. by the way, you have one. it's called a cluster b personality disorder. it's common with people who lack empathy and compassion.
I have a lot of problems, but that actually doesn't happen to be one. I'm seeing my psychiatrist on Tuesday. I'll bring that up and ask him if maybe he's missed something :D

On another note. Lav, you really need to calm down. You take one thing somebody says and run with it. Before i even had a chance to respond to you... It was ''wow...I would ruin somebody's day who read this that struggled with depression'' Then I have a some kind of personality disorder?? THEN i'm heartless and so on and so forth...
If you're going to get upset every time some random person on the internet says something (not even directed at you personally)... i hate to break it to you, but you'll be upset a lot.
 
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Roh_Chris

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EXACTLY...love is supposed to hurt. Can you imagine how Jesus hurt on the cross because of loving crazy people like us?
I know I cannot handle it. So I would not venture further. :)
 
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waterlily

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Yes. Yes .love is love. GOD IS GOD
 
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kenthomas27

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so i guess someone with manic depression doesn't have to worry about any human being on the planet falling in love with them.
Yeah, but the bright side is that they're only going to be sad about half the time.
 
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wow. that's quite a response. i'd hate to think what would happen if you struggled with depression or something like that and read this by another poster. i'm sure it would really make your day.
I'm pretty sure Holly didn't mean depression, Lav. I agreed with her but I wasn't thinking depression when it comes to mental illness. I've been through depression myself and know that its often something that people can overcome and that pretty much everyone goes through it at one time or another. When I think of mental illness I think of those that are developmentally challenged or are psychotic (like schizophrenics).
 
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lav

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I have a lot of problems, but that actually doesn't happen to be one. I'm seeing my psychiatrist on Tuesday. I'll bring that up and ask him if maybe he's missed something :D

On another note. Lav, you really need to calm down. You take one thing somebody says and run with it. Before i even had a chance to respond to you... It was ''wow...I would ruin somebody's day who read this that struggled with depression'' Then I have a some kind of personality disorder?? THEN i'm heartless and so on and so forth...
If you're going to get upset every time some random person on the internet says something (not even directed at you personally)... i hate to break it to you, but you'll be upset a lot.

you're right, i apologize. i did not understand your situation. i am dealing with a lot of challenges of my own and spiritual attacks. please forgive me.
 
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lav

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Yeah, but the bright side is that they're only going to be sad about half the time.

i realize that's supposed to be a joke, but that isn't necessarily true... at all.
 
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waterlily

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We are called to lay our lives down for one another and not love our own lives until death.

I have given up much for the love of others. God has told us to take up our cross daily. We are to carry each others burdens.
 
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Ho11y

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you're right, i apologize. i did not understand your situation. i am dealing with a lot of challenges of my own and spiritual attacks. please forgive me.
This was very awesome of you. I'd also like to apologize for offending you. It was unintentionally done. Lav, I will sincerely pray for what is going on in your life right now. If you should ever need to talk. I may not be the first person on your list, but just know I'm here if you should ever want to :)
 

Tinkerbell725

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We are called to lay our lives down for one another and not love our own lives until death.

I have given up much for the love of others. God has told us to take up our cross daily. We are to carry each others burdens.

This is exactly what it means to follow Jesus. God does'nt want our thoughts and words alone. He wants our hands, our sweat and our blood. He want us to move our butts. Faith without works is dead.
 

Fenner

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I married someone who was crazy enough to marry someone like me, who's also suffered from PTSD and severe anxiety. I give him credit, he put up with a lot the first couple of years while I adjusted to some big changes we went through.

Someday one of us will need to be taken care of, so while I didn't marry someone with any mental or physical illness, we never know what life will give us. I will be there when I'm needed.
 
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waterlily

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This is exactly what it means to follow Jesus. God does'nt want our thoughts and words alone. He wants our hands, our sweat and our blood. He want us to move our butts. Faith without works is dead.
Amen.. God has called us to love. Its the difference between a goat and His sheep. If you give a glass of water in my name you are giving it unto me.
 
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amymine712

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Lav, i've had post traumatic stress disorder and an anxiety/panic disorder since i was a child. Not only that, i was raised by an un medicated schizophrenic and a very mentally ill grandmother who would tell us stories of her mother foaming at the mouth and chasing them around a corn field with a butcher knife. (My great grandmother had a tumor pressing on her pituitary gland which caused her mental illness.) Growing up I would visit my mom in TPI (a psychiatric institute. She was suicidal and had debilitating anxiety and depression) and one of my brothers, when he wasn't home banging his head up against his bedroom wall, threatning to overdose on his medication, threatning to strangle us with a seat belt, or bash our heads into a window... Well, we'd go visit him over in the next building. The mental institute for children and teenagers.
And THIS is how i got PTSD and a panic/anxiety disorder. Living with people who were sick in the head and made very VERY bad decisions.

SO... i will say again...

No. That's setting yourself up for stress, hurt, sadness, disappointment.. etc.. etc... I especially wouldn't date anyone with a mental illness. I'm assuming that's what you meant by mental disease.

With mental illness you never know what you're going to get. People are already crazy.... add a mental illness into the mix and it's just a disaster.

I would actually date someone with cancer or AIDS over a person with a mental illness.


I will also add this... I don't care what mental illness the guy has. I run the other direction.
Sweetheart what you have gone through is a living hell. I don't blame you for running away from those that say they have mental illnesses. I did the same thing until I realized there are different types and severities to the classification of mental illness.

Did you know that what you suffer from (PTSD and anxiety) is a form of mental illness? What you went through as a child was what I call pure crazy. It is beyond the normal mental illness. Most people with mental illness lead normal productive lives.
 

blue_ladybug

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so i guess someone with manic depression doesn't have to worry about any human being on the planet falling in love with them.
lav, geesh you know how to bring a person down! :( I'm getting depressed just reading this entire thread, and I am not mocking anyone nor being sarcastic with that comment. Like seoulsearch, I have struggled with life-long depression and suicidal thoughts since a VERY young age. It was not until only a few years ago, that I knew I needed to change how I lived, or I would end up dead. On my darkest days I could literally envision myself swinging on a rope from the rafters of my back porch!! That is not a vision I would wish upon anyone!

To get back to the OP, knowing I have depression, suicidal thoughts, etc, WHY would I (or anyone in the same boat) want to bring another person into a mess like that?! We all have our own set of problems, some can handle other's problems as well as their own. I am not one of those people.