Saving your first Kiss for marriage

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You've heard of saving sex for marriage but there are Christians out there who have also saved their first kiss for marriage.

I know a guy who's doing this as a defense for against lust and getting out of control. And to do something nice for his wife.

I think it's awesome and if you look up on youtube, there are people who posted their wedding day, first kiss hahaha

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So I'm just posting this to let you younger people know about it. I imagine theres people here who still haven't kissed someone yet.

I'd say... go for it if you can. It'll protect you from lust (keep u pure) because a kiss can get lustful l and it'll make a nice special gift for your wedding day. :)

So what do you young guys and gals think of it? :)
 
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Saving sex for marriage is a good thing, but no kisses? I think that's taking it a bit too far. If you can't control yourself you need to pray more. I mean, what's next as a defense against lust: covering your gf up from head to toe like they do in some muslim countries?
 
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Saving sex for marriage is a good thing, but no kisses? I think that's taking it a bit too far. If you can't control yourself you need to pray more. I mean, what's next as a defense against lust: covering your gf up from head to toe like they do in some muslim countries?
Your comparing two very different things ....

I'm Christian not Muslim and this is not a commandment but a suggestion.

I think if people do this, it's admirable in how prudent it is and just how far someone would go to avoid sexual immorality. (lust specifically) With that kind of mindset... I think it's really admirable.

Also... if my gf covered herself from head to teo for the sake of modesty.. by her own will and for God then I'd admire her greatly aswell.

Your missing the point and that is... it's the thought that counts and this is extremely thoughtful and nice if done in God's will.


 
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Also... if my gf covered herself from head to teo for the sake of modesty.. by her own will and for God then I'd admire her greatly aswell.

That's exactly what i meant... ;)
 
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.. well.. i filipina gal here sir.. i badly admire the topic.. ^^

since that no one here knows me personally.. i've never been kissed by anyone else.. i mean, a kiss that somehow shows commitment or is exclusive only for committed persons.. i do it as a mindset not to avoid lust or whatever.. i do it because i always think that the best gift that i can give to my husband in our wedding day is to be the first of everything.. and of course,, i want to be patient enough to wait for God's wonderful time.. no rush.. ^^ and anyway, im 17 years old and i guess, too young for that.. what do you think sir? but i had experienced having boyfriend in my past.. but God made me learned my lesson through those experiences..
 
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Saving sex for marriage is a good thing, but no kisses? I think that's taking it a bit too far. If you can't control yourself you need to pray more. I mean, what's next as a defense against lust: covering your gf up from head to toe like they do in some muslim countries?
If this is what a person needs to do to keep themselves from temptation, then why criticize? Whats more important in life, after all, kidding or living your life holy and blameless and keeping yourself out of temptation?
I won't say that everyone should be doing this. Thats not my point. My point is, if someone does feel to do this why put them down? Why not respect them and their commitment to Christ, and to honor their future spouse by ensuring they stay pure and away from temptation?
 
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If this is what a person needs to do to keep themselves from temptation, then why criticize? Whats more important in life, after all, kidding or living your life holy and blameless and keeping yourself out of temptation?
I won't say that everyone should be doing this. Thats not my point. My point is, if someone does feel to do this why put them down? Why not respect them and their commitment to Christ, and to honor their future spouse by ensuring they stay pure and away from temptation?
Sure, if that's what you need to keep yourself from tempatation, go right ahead. Doesn't mean my lifestyle is less holy than yours if i do kiss girls btw, i have no problem keeping myself out of temptation, and that's what counts.The Lord only asks of us to save ourself for marriage, nothing more.
 
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Where did anyone say you were 'less holy' for kissing before marriage? All i read was someone who made a suggestion, nowhere did i see where it was even implied anything less was 'less holy'. I, myself, even said i didn't think that this idea was for everyone.
Your first post was critical, and your last post is defensive and putting words in peoples mouths. I think you need to relax and take the time to read what is actually being said, and not be so quick to insult, and not mix things up.
 
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That's exactly what i meant... ;)
I think you really need to re-think all of this and what has been said.

Because ... now.. I don't think that even you know what you mean.

And from reading your posts... it seems it's pride that is your problem. You think if someone does go through with never kissing until marriage that you might be views as "less holy." That hints that your pride might be hurt by the mentioning of this idea. If that's the case, don't let it get the best of you ok.

And God does asks us to do more then just save sex for marriage... which is to avoid lust. Lust is adultery in the heart and not kissing is a pretty good way to avoid lust if you ask me.
 
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If this is what a person needs to do to keep themselves from temptation, then why criticize? Whats more important in life, after all, kidding or living your life holy and blameless and keeping yourself out of temptation?
I won't say that everyone should be doing this. (...)
Feels to me like there are only two options:
1) Living your life holy and blameless, keeping yourself out of temptation. This then would mean no kissing by definition?
2) Kidding. This then WOULD mean kissing by definition?
Maybe i didn't get you there, but from that in understood you can't live a holy life if you decide to a kiss a girl before marriage. And btw i'm not on the defensive at all, what you do with your private life is your business. But this is an open forum, and i have every right to state my opinion on the matter. You can do with as you like, like i'm doing what i like with your opinion about kissing before marriage. No offense.
 
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Feels to me like there are only two options:
1) Living your life holy and blameless, keeping yourself out of temptation. This then would mean no kissing by definition?
2) Kidding. This then WOULD mean kissing by definition?

Its quite obvious you did not thoroughly read anything i said. To quote my previous posts..

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If this is what a person (as in an individual, not all people) needs to do to keep themselves from temptation, then why criticize? Whats more important in life, after all, kidding or living your life holy and blameless and keeping yourself out of temptation?
I won't say that everyone should be doing this. Thats not my point. My point is, if someone does feel to do this why put them down? Why not respect them and their commitment to Christ, and to honor their future spouse by ensuring they stay pure and away from temptation?
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''Where did anyone say you were 'less holy' for kissing before marriage?All i read was someone who made a suggestion, nowhere did i see where it was even implied anything less was 'less holy'. I, myself, even said i didn't think that this idea was for everyone.
Your first post was critical, and your last post is defensive and putting words in peoples mouths. I think you need to relax and take the time to read what is actually being said, and not be so quick to insult, and not mix things up. ''


I said more than once, that i never said that this was something everyone needed to follow. I never at all used the words or concept 'less holy'. That was your wording that you put in my mouth. All i said was it was wrong of you to criticize someone ELSE who wanted to, or perhaps needed to, live by this standard.

Maybe i didn't get you there, but from that in understood you can't live a holy life if you decide to a kiss a girl before marriage. And btw i'm not on the defensive at all, what you do with your private life is your business.
I haven't said one word about my personal opinion on the matter, or what i do with my 'private life', so i have no idea why you're bringing that up.

But this is an open forum, and i have every right to state my opinion on the matter. You can do with as you like, like i'm doing what i like with your opinion about kissing before marriage. No offense.

And yet again putting words in my mouth. I don't remember saying you had no right to express an opinion. But when i see a 'Christian' brother insulting another Christian because they want to take extra steps to live rightly by God, then yeah, i'm going to correct that person, as the bible would expect me to.
If you can control yourself in kissing, and you have no problem with the idea of kissing before marriage, fine, i have no problem with that. To me this is a matter each person has to decide for themselves, and there is no one single answer for everyone. But its wrong to put people down who do choose this way of living. They are trying to honor God by this choice and that is a dangerous thing to criticize. You can disagree, but you don't have to insult to disagree.

Lastly, you have 3 times put words or ideas in my mouth. You've refused a correction about criticizing people wanting to honor God. I won't be retuning to this post, as in my mind, you have discredit yourself for these two reasons. Mostly for the first one. I never appreciate people lying by saying i said things i never said.
 
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.. well.. i filipina gal here sir.. i badly admire the topic.. ^^

since that no one here knows me personally.. i've never been kissed by anyone else.. i mean, a kiss that somehow shows commitment or is exclusive only for committed persons.. i do it as a mindset not to avoid lust or whatever.. i do it because i always think that the best gift that i can give to my husband in our wedding day is to be the first of everything.. and of course,, i want to be patient enough to wait for God's wonderful time.. no rush.. ^^ and anyway, im 17 years old and i guess, too young for that.. what do you think sir? but i had experienced having boyfriend in my past.. but God made me learned my lesson through those experiences..
Yeah it's pretty nice, it's a fresh air of hope I guess in how some people out there are going so far to not lust and to avoid sexual immorality. :)

What do I think? It's really nice and encouraging to hear about it. :)

And lol your very polite.
 
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You've heard of saving sex for marriage but there are Christians out there who have also saved their first kiss for marriage.

I know a guy who's doing this as a defense for against lust and getting out of control. And to do something nice for his wife.

I think it's awesome and if you look up on youtube, there are people who posted their wedding day, first kiss hahaha

:)

So I'm just posting this to let you younger people know about it. I imagine theres people here who still haven't kissed someone yet.

I'd say... go for it if you can. It'll protect you from lust (keep u pure) because a kiss can get lustful l and it'll make a nice special gift for your wedding day. :)

So what do you young guys and gals think of it? :)
To me, I think it's going to far: I seen the duggers on TLC do that, and I dissagree: Like for me, I would never do that: Like, I would not have sex and all, but I think that's over doing it: Like, what's going to happen if you kiss a guy? nothing; if you can't control yourself, then don't have a bf,at all: tha's just me:
 
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To me, I think it's going to far: I seen the duggers on TLC do that, and I dissagree: Like for me, I would never do that: Like, I would not have sex and all, but I think that's over doing it: Like, what's going to happen if you kiss a guy? nothing; if you can't control yourself, then don't have a bf,at all: tha's just me:
Refraining from intimate/sexual kissing is a matter of purity and chastity. Neither of which are particularly popular.
 
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Im soo in that category,never kissed.
 

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Good Article said:
There are those who would argue that it is not wrong to kiss before marriage. To refute this we could look at statistics of couples who thought they could start the fire and shut it at will, and found they were wrong. We could state the number of pregnancies that started as "innocent" goodnight kisses. We could look at all the practical reasons not to kiss before marriage. But those who defend the activity might still say, "Perhaps it's best to refrain, but I don't see it condemned in the Bible, so it can't be sin." This is a weak argument at best.

First, a definition of the term. Obviously, not every kind of extramarital kiss can be wrong. The apostle Paul expressly commands us, on several occasions, to greet one another with a holy kiss. (It would be a stretch to say that Paul was instructing husbands and wives to do something which normally requires no prompting). But premarital kissing does not fall under the same category as kissing a fellow believer, your sister, your dog or your parakeet. In Genesis 26 we read that God told Isaac to stay with the Philistines in lieu of going to Egypt. When the men of that place asked him about his wife, he told them that Rebekah was his sister, because she was beautiful, and he was afraid that the men would kill him to get at her. In verse 8 we read, "When Isaac had been there a long time, Abimelech king of the Philistines looked down from a window and saw Isaac caressing his wife Rebekah. So Abimelech summoned Isaac and said, "She is really your wife! Why did you say, 'She is my sister?'" This shows that there is a type of activity which is only appropriate with a wife, and not appropriate with a sister.

What is premarital kissing? For the purpose of my argument, premarital kissing is engaging in that kind of kissing with someone other than one's spouse which is inappropriate with a sibling, in activity and motive. What is the purpose of such kissing? Some would say that it is a legitimate display of affection between a couple who is courting or (horrors) dating. But let's face it, it is not merely an innocent display of affection. It is a display of passion. See definition above. It is rather far-fetched to deny the intimate and emotional nature of a kiss. You would not kiss your mom or dad in the same way you kiss your wife or husband. If you're arguing for that type of kissing before marriage, no argument here. It's ok after marriage, too. But I am speaking of the type which is unique to a husband/wife relationship and imitators thereof. "If you wanna know if he really loves you so, it's in his kiss"?

Kissing in this way outside of the bonds of marriage neither proves nor enhances true love. Rather, it proves, demonstrates, enhances a physical attraction that is Biblically classified as lust when not consecrated in marriage. While the physical aspect is a necessary ingredient in a marriage, it is not necessary for a premarital relationship. Rather, it hinders true communication between the couple. Why is premarital sex wrong? Isn't one reason that we are to keep ourselves pure for the person who will one day be our spouse? We may not have sex with anyone who is not our lawful spouse. Those who are single do not have a lawful spouse. Therefore, singles may not have sex. End of story. Now let me ask you a question. How happy would you be if, after taking wedding vows, your beloved passionately kissed someone other than you on the lips? I daresay you wouldn't like it much. If you would, then you are not being an imitator of God in His jealousy for what is His own, and should repent. Well, what right have we to kiss someone now in a way that is not lawful later? Can we not extend this to say: We may not kiss anyone who isn't our lawful spouse; someone who's single has no lawful spouse; therefore singles may not kiss? Take a moment to look at it this way. Let's assume for the moment that premarital kissing is permissible. For the purposes of the argument, it is fine for you to passionately kiss someone when you're single. Is the person you're kissing your husband or wife? Obviously not. Therefore, we have a premise: It is OK to kiss someone who is not your lawful spouse. Logically extending that idea, what is to prevent a married person from passionately kissing someone she/he isn't married to? What's that you say? "No, they can't"? Why ever not? It must have something to do with the nature of marriage and the nature of a passionate kiss.

I maintain that the reason extramarital kissing is not permissible is that such kissing is sexual in nature. This agrees with both A and B. Working backwards, then, it would be wrong extramaritally, and it would be wrong premaritally. "Show me a verse that says 'No Kissing'", you say. "Scripture doesn't even mention it. You can't make me feel guilty for doing something the Bible doesn't forbid." There are many expressions of passion that are not specifically recognized in Scripture yet which are wrong to engage in outside of marriage. Can you find me a Scripture passage condemning petting, or other practices that don't go "all the way" to include the act of intercourse, yet involve passion and intimacy between unmarried persons? How about a passage that condemns homosexuals kissing? Or one that says you can't smash your neighbor's windshield? You can't, because they don't exist. And yet I hardly expect you to condone those practices. The key is that these actions are subsumed under the broader heading of "sexual immorality." I would submit that premarital kissing, because of its very nature, also falls into this category. The Heidelberg Catechism assures us that some sins are more heinous than others. Just because one sin is less heinous than another doesn't mean that it is not, therefore, sin. Christ himself warns us that if we hate our brother we have already murdered him in our heart. Therefore, hating our brother is sin. It is not punishable here on earth, but such a thought will be judged.(Matthew 5:22)

The Scriptures command us to keep a heart that is clean and free from sin. We should not, we may not seek to go as far as we can without violating the letter of the law. When we so seek, we are already violating the spirit of the law. Cain tried the same trick, and it didn't do him good. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and a contrite heart God will not despise. (Psalm 51:17) Whoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. (Matthew 5:28) How much more, then, has someone committed adultery who does not just confine himself to looking, but also touches in an inescapably sexual way?

It is GOOD for a man not to touch a woman.(1 Corinthians 7:1) Walk in the Spirit and you shall not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.(Galatians 5:16) Treat younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.(1 Timothy 5:2) Some have said that to them, kissing doesn't mean anything. I have acquaintances who kiss first and ask questions (like "What's your name?") later. This is dangerous, as demonstrated through the experience of one of those acquaintances. She felt that since kisses meant little, she owed something more than that to the boyfriend she "really loved." If such kissing is to mean anything, if it is to convey love and affection, passion and intimacy, as God ordained that it should, it is only properly done by a husband and a wife.

Definitely agree, +1 to OP.
And Yay for the few dudes and gals still swimming upstream. :)
 
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To me, I think it's going to far: I seen the duggers on TLC do that, and I dissagree: Like for me, I would never do that: Like, I would not have sex and all, but I think that's over doing it: Like, what's going to happen if you kiss a guy? nothing; if you can't control yourself, then don't have a bf,at all: tha's just me:
Hey Kittycat

I don't think it's over-doing it but it's actually under-doing it. The real thing we as Christians should remember is that Lust is really the sin that we should avoid. It's a thought battle and avoiding lust in our thoughts is on a higher level then just saving sex for marriage... or saving the first kiss.

Saving sex for marriage is easy.... so is saving the first kiss when you compare it to never thinking a lustful thought. And this is what Jesus talked about... Matthew 5:27-28 .... 27 "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Saving first kiss is under doing it but I'm sure it might help a lot of people to do it for the true goal of keeping our minds pure from lustful thoughts... which harder and a higher calling.
 

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i guess it would be cool to save ur first kiss for ur wdding
 
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I think it is wise to save kissing for marriage. It will obviously viewed as radical and eccentric in a culture that is grossly oversexualized. Abstinence is viewed as repressive and destructive behavior in our culture. to withold kissing is viewed as lunacy. Sadly even the church culture(which is radically influnced by the spirit of this age and secularism) leans more towards popular culture on this matter just read some of the responses. The post by G4JC is on point. What is funny is that years ago it wouldnt have been seen as extreme but because our culture goes further away from certain principles we have seemed to follow suit.
 
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I have kissed guys before, ive knowm people who waited until marriage. theres nothing wrong with both. God says to save sex for marriage, aslong as that is perserverd, nothing else matters.