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mori

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#41
How can you say that most christians do not treat them nice?
This deserves an answer, even though it's intended to allow none.

To get it out of the way, how most Christians act towards homosexuals is not loving. I look at it this way - if you see a blind man walking towards a cliff and do not yell out a warning, you are a monster. If you warn him, however, you are merely a decent neighbor. This is the absolute least that should be expected of a person and it is not especially loving, and is certainly not the supernatural love we're taught to expect from Christians.

Good, you warn people walking towards tragedy - you are not a sociopath! Congrats! Don't stop there.

So, how? Some examples. A friend of mine confessed to me that she was struggling with lesbian feelings and wanted me to pray with her. I told her, in confidence, that I too felt similar things. The next day at school, I learned she (who was straight and had been lying to me) had started a rumor. This was a small Christian school and it took less than a day to circulate. I lost most of my friends, my car was vandalized, etc.

As I've written elsewhere, I was beaten in church. Having spoken with my gay friends, most of them avoided physical abuse but none escaped unscathed. Almost universally, when we spoke up about it, we were ostracized. In my own case, I didn't bring it up because I knew I wouldn't have any advocates in the ministry team. The pastor himself had done some "faggy" impressions in the pulpit. When my parents did bring it up, not a thing happened to the guys who had done it, and I stopped attending church because I was afraid.

The funny thing is that, almost invariably, I'm told that these weren't true Christians and that I should look to Jesus, not man. But when I find the churches that do treat us well, I'm told that these aren't true Christians either. We often have the choice between A) a church that holds a strict line on homosexuality and exposes us to psychological if not simply physical abuse or B) a church that is open, affirming, and safe. Some of us, and I'm probably a good example, have some form of Stockholm syndrome and continue to make ourselves available to A, but any rational person eventually moves to B if not leaving church altogether.

In any case... that's how.
 
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hislastwalk

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#42
This deserves an answer, even though it's intended to allow none.

To get it out of the way, how most Christians act towards homosexuals is not loving. I look at it this way - if you see a blind man walking towards a cliff and do not yell out a warning, you are a monster. If you warn him, however, you are merely a decent neighbor. This is the absolute least that should be expected of a person and it is not especially loving, and is certainly not the supernatural love we're taught to expect from Christians.

Good, you warn people walking towards tragedy - you are not a sociopath! Congrats! Don't stop there.

So, how? Some examples. A friend of mine confessed to me that she was struggling with lesbian feelings and wanted me to pray with her. I told her, in confidence, that I too felt similar things. The next day at school, I learned she (who was straight and had been lying to me) had started a rumor. This was a small Christian school and it took less than a day to circulate. I lost most of my friends, my car was vandalized, etc.

As I've written elsewhere, I was beaten in church. Having spoken with my gay friends, most of them avoided physical abuse but none escaped unscathed. Almost universally, when we spoke up about it, we were ostracized. In my own case, I didn't bring it up because I knew I wouldn't have any advocates in the ministry team. The pastor himself had done some "faggy" impressions in the pulpit. When my parents did bring it up, not a thing happened to the guys who had done it, and I stopped attending church because I was afraid.

The funny thing is that, almost invariably, I'm told that these weren't true Christians and that I should look to Jesus, not man. But when I find the churches that do treat us well, I'm told that these aren't true Christians either. We often have the choice between A) a church that holds a strict line on homosexuality and exposes us to psychological if not simply physical abuse or B) a church that is open, affirming, and safe. Some of us, and I'm probably a good example, have some form of Stockholm syndrome and continue to make ourselves available to A, but any rational person eventually moves to B if not leaving church altogether.

In any case... that's how.
I'm sorry you went through that /: I was kicked outta churches for wearing rainbow shirts, etc &told God hates me. I'm so glad I was set free&learned to lean on Jesus, not man.
 
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TyphaniNichole

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#43
I know gay people because i used to do musicals & i was surrounded by them, i love them however i don't support what they do meaning if they come around me i don't make them feel less than a person. i love the scripture 1peter 4:8 Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins. i will never judge anyones past or present however if they want to be lead to God i will surely show them the ways
 
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#44
gays are awesome, they make great friends. If I have a gay guy friend, I can talk about guy stuff with them, and hang out with a guy, but there's no competition. We are interested in different genders, we are never going to fight over a girl. Also, although I'm not gay, I'm pretty metro. So I like clothes, shopping, gossip, and things like that. And an effeminate gay man is much more willing to help me to style my hair just right, than football buddy straight guy.

And lesbians? Also another example of the best of both worlds. I get someone who I can talk about girls with, like I would a guy. And also get to hang out with a girl that my girlfriend won't get jealous over.

So yeah gays are fun. Some of my best friends over the years have been gay.