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living4Him93

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ok so i just did this and it was so cool! go to

http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/ask-a-question/chat-live

and start chatting with someone. use questions from this site

http://www.towertotruth.net/Mormon/witnessing/50_questions.htm

and ask tons of questions. be sure to have your Bible or have biblegateway.com open so you can use some verses. biblegateway.com is probably better b/c you can use different versions. alright that's it, hope you get to try it!

i chatted with 3 people and all of them just left. give it a shot, share the truth with them!

~living4Him93
 
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jesusfreak0016

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It's really funn!!
 
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living4Him93

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i agree! if anyone does it, share with us what happened :) i'd love to hear!
 
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Maddog

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When I've met them in person I just offer them a cup of tea. When they tell me thye don't drink tea they can only watch as I turn into in jibbering wreck followed by my head exploding as I try and comprehend the possibility of not drinking tea.
 
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MessyLady

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I was raised Mormon - let me just say that the religion becomes so ingrained in who you are and everything that you do that it is really, really hard to teach them anything different. They are taught from infancy about what they should believe and all of the people that are close to them are Mormon, so even if they knew that it isn't the truth, they would probably stay with it because of the social pressures.
I went to www.irr.org and when to the MIT (Mormons In Transition) to learn about the differences between Mormonism and Christianity. It was very helpful.
 
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jesusfreak0016

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they keep transferring me to someone else, cause they dont know how to answer my question, and then one started yelling at me! :( so i got off!!
 
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Maddog said:
When I've met them in person I just offer them a cup of tea. When they tell me thye don't drink tea they can only watch as I turn into in jibbering wreck followed by my head exploding as I try and comprehend the possibility of not drinking tea.
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Why that is so sweet of you!!!

How can one not drink tea?... perhaps they were just lying... its impossible not to drink tea...





I am SO gonna do this after school today!!!
 
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Cako53

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I've done this before!!! I am telling you it is HARD though. They have been so brainwashed. It is very sad.
 
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Presley250

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i am confused to why mormos are considered christians...they have their own book so wouldnt they be a different religion?? and what they beleive is just wrong and unaccurate...there is a separation right??
 
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Maddog said:
When I've met them in person I just offer them a cup of tea. When they tell me thye don't drink tea they can only watch as I turn into in jibbering wreck followed by my head exploding as I try and comprehend the possibility of not drinking tea.
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Same with the whole "no alcohol" thing. Really weirds me out.
 
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living4Him93 said:
ok so i just did this and it was so cool! go to

http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/ask-a-question/chat-live

and start chatting with someone. use questions from this site

http://www.towertotruth.net/Mormon/witnessing/50_questions.htm

and ask tons of questions. be sure to have your Bible or have biblegateway.com open so you can use some verses. biblegateway.com is probably better b/c you can use different versions. alright that's it, hope you get to try it!

i chatted with 3 people and all of them just left. give it a shot, share the truth with them!

~living4Him93
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I am a former LDS member but it is for reasons like this that I don't believe I could ever belong to another faith. LDS do not go around trying to tear down someone elses faith. They have no classes on other faiths or religions. They teach what they believe and that is all.

ST MARK
CHAPTER 9
38 ¶ And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.


Let them believe in their faith and they will let you believe in yours. Preach why your faith is correct not why someone else is wrong. This isn't politics. If your faith is right tell why it is right. Tell why you believe in it.
 
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MessyLady said:
I was raised Mormon - let me just say that the religion becomes so ingrained in who you are and everything that you do that it is really, really hard to teach them anything different. They are taught from infancy about what they should believe and all of the people that are close to them are Mormon, so even if they knew that it isn't the truth, they would probably stay with it because of the social pressures.
I went to www.irr.org and when to the MIT (Mormons In Transition) to learn about the differences between Mormonism and Christianity. It was very helpful.
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I am surprised you would say this. The LDS religion is no more ingrained than any other. Would you not expect a parent to teach their faith and political views to their children? This is the way it is in every family is it not? It is not till we reach our young adult life that we may begin to question what we've been taught. We may keep the same beliefs our parents did or we may choose to believe otherwise. To single out LDS is unfair.


Here is a video of a 5 year old who felt a need to be saved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=309MCU8TonE

People raise their children how they see fit. You may or may not agree with it but it isn't something that only exists in LDS. It is this way in every religion, in every faith and nearly every family. Children take on their parents beliefs until they get old enough to choose for themselves what they will believe. You are influenced by those around you for good or for bad. I don't believe the LDS church is any more harmful than any other religion.
 
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Presley250 said:
i am confused to why mormos are considered christians...they have their own book so wouldnt they be a different religion?? and what they beleive is just wrong and unaccurate...there is a separation right??
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Are the LDS a different religion because of an additional book? The LDS use the Bible the same as every Christian faith. The Catholics use the Apocrypha. Are they considered non christian because they use that? The LDS use the Book of Mormon which they believe are a collection of other writings by prophets. The Bible is also a collection of writings by prophets. The Bible is not a full collection of all the writings by prophets. That is a fact. Now whether someone chooses to believe the Book of Mormon are actual writings by prophets is up to them but it is in every way possible for someone to have found writings by prophets which were not included into the Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls are additional writings they found recently that were not included into the collection of the Bible. There are also many books talked of in the Bible that were not included into it. The word Bible literally means books. It wasn't until 300-400 years after the last book in the Bible was written that the Catholic church collected the writings and put the ones which they believed to be most accurately kept into a collection that all Christians refer today as "The Bible" or "The Books".

I made a post in here that explains about the Bible and the Book of Mormon.
http://christianchat.com/showthread.php?t=12120


Many Christian faiths do not consider the LDS Christian even though the LDS strongly believe in Jesus Christ. They have a different interpretation than other faiths on the trinity. They believe God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost to be three separate persons, three divine beings.

The exact words from Elder Jeffrey R. Holland
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles I list below.

"Our first and foremost article of faith in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is “We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.”2 We believe these three divine persons constituting a single Godhead are united in purpose, in manner, in testimony, in mission. We believe Them to be filled with the same godly sense of mercy and love, justice and grace, patience, forgiveness, and redemption. I think it is accurate to say we believe They are one in every significant and eternal aspect imaginable except believing Them to be three persons combined in one substance, a Trinitarian notion never set forth in the scriptures because it is not true." Elder Jeffrey R. Holland
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

http://jesuschrist.lds.org/SonOfGod...y-true-god-and-jesus-christ-whom-he-hath-sent

This is the same talk.

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?h...toid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

This talks about the LDS view on the trinity as to the Bible.

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?h...toid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

If you want to learn more about what LDS believe I would recommend going to their main site of http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e419fb40e21cef00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD

There is also http://ldschat.com/ or http://www.lds.net/forums/ if you wish to just talk with regular members.
 
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Cako53

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Mormonism is a cult. Wake up and open your eyes.
 
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Cako53 said:
Mormonism is a cult. Wake up and open your eyes.
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They said the same thing about Jesus Christ. You seem so full of love. Where does this hatred for the LDS come from?

ST MATTHEW CHAPTER 12
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.


28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you
 
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Cako53

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They said the same thing about Jesus Christ. You seem so full of love. Where does this hatred for the LDS come from?

ST MATTHEW CHAPTER 12
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.


28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you
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It is not a hatred of LDS. It is a hatred for lies. We are called to hate what God hate and love what God loves. God hates lieing, as do I.
 
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Cako53 said:
Was the first thing I said not that he didn't handle this great?
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If you hate lies, why do you post them? The things the guy said weren't even true. You said he could have handled it better but that didn't stop you from posting it. I didn't hear you disagree with anything. I already addressed why the points he said were false. I didn't hear you acknowledge anything. The only thing you did was ignore all I said and continue calling the LDS faith a cult and brainwashed.
 
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cmacneill

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Cako53 said:
Was the first thing I said not that he didn't handle this great?
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that video posted did have 1 important thing on it, the fact that the Bible is God's holy word and that it says it was written by him (2 Timothy 3:15-17)
and also that we shall not add or takes away from the book(Deuteronomy 4:2 ,Deuteronomy 12:32,Proverbs 30:5-6 ect)
and from my understanding, LDS feel that the bible isnt good enough do you need a new doctrine to assist the bible, which is adding to scripture and also, even if you dont think it is adding, it says in proverbs 30:5, "Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him." and if God's word is flawless then why do you need a new doctrine? and if it is flawed then guess what that would mean God is a liar and he cant be a liar because he is God and that would totally contradict with his nature which would mean God wouldn't exist.
Also the LDS doctrine teaches Jesus and satan are brothers...... John 3:16 says Gods ONLY son which means once more either God doesnt exist or Mr. Joseph Smith was wrong because one of those two have to be true
and another point is from my understanding, LDS believes in a work based salvation through baptism, from my understanding a member both have to be saved by grace AND baptized by an appointed Mormon priest.but the bible clearly says '' For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God'' Ephesians (2:8)
i repeatedly shown examples of were the bible clearly shows error in the LDS doctrine, but yet you use both of them, why would you use two totally contradicting sources? that just seems rather ridiculous to me
it is almost as ridiculous as a christian studying from a satanic bible not only does it not make sense, it is impossible,
Jesus himself said: Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand."' (Mathew 12:25) and that is one of the doctrines YOU use!
and please do not argue with me because everything i told you came out of the bible and one of your doctrines so you must recognize the truth in it
none of this was my opinion but scripture so if you find fault in it, talk to God about it because he wrote it not me
in Christ's love,
cmacneill
 
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