Struggles in my life

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mar09

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Read the story of Adam and Eve where God curses them. You will see that God says to eve that she will have a desire to rule over her husband but he will rule over her. I believe that that's why we have such a difficult time accepting submission. There's other reasons too.
God never cursed adam or eve, did He? It was the serpent and the ground... Gen. 3.14-17.
 

Dorothy13

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Ty yea I'm trying to do as u say PWRNJC - I'm not there yet tho - Plus Ive pretty much been told by two CC adults today to get off CC (thread in News - Depleted marine life thread) n that I'm not christian for having my doubts and raising questions. ...... or in this case for having non-conservative views on the environment. Ive also been told I have to do a personal testimony about my faith if I am going to comment in an adult thread by three people in that same thread. Maybe they are right - a teen who hasnt fully developed their christian view should get the heck of CC.
Aww, Zoii, that's so mean! If you're still learning and developing, they should try and help you. You're here so you can learn and grow in Christ and if they just tell you to get off here, they aren't proper christians too. At least they should try and help you. Teach you stuff, have a bible study, Idk. And for goodness sake, there are nonbelievers on here too, so I don't get their point...You're a christian girl, who's still busy learning and growing in christianity, and they want you to leave? Ugh.*hugs* Well, here's something, if they make you leave, I'm leaving too. Most definitely.
 

Hansa

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zoii i think what's imp is that you be loved for who you are...by whoever it maybe, parents ,friends...ppl who will celebrate cus u are around alive etc...i think that is more imp...
 
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What does it mean if I cant accept certain biblical ideals. What if I cant accept the idea that a man must be head of a relationship and not a partner. What If I do actually believe god created the universe but not in 6 days but rather as per the big bang. What if I believe in evolution and accept the science of carbon dating. What if I fear men and want nothing to do with them let alone a relationship with one. If I believe in God and Jesus but accept that some things in the bible are not in line with what I believe in science or myself as a girl..... Does that mean I'm not christian.

At the moment I'm really sad n fragile so....
Zoii I was going to send you a reply to your PM but it wont allow me? Id like to be able to continue our talk if that is alright. Did you block me after you sent me a PM?
 
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I am blocking everyone because I wont be continuing here. You stated in the thread about Marine life in the News forum I should respect those men. They not only attacked me on subjects about my spiritual journey, and even mentioned sexuality, they then went on to say my avatar isn't me and now if you look they are now continuing on with it making jokes about me. You too hammered me insisting I talk about my spiritual status...why?...not because you or the others gave a dam about how I was travelling on my journey, but rather to use it as leverage in some way against me...u did it in the teen room and you repeated in that thread in order to bolster their bullying. Now these are mature Christian men - these are the ones u are telling me are the best of men...... Not only does it deepen my total distrust of men, I just think if this is it...if this is the best of Christianity then I'm out...which is what you and those men said - get out of CC - you whole heartedly supported them. Even when I took my own avatar down they made jokes about that too. If this is Christianity at its best then .... enjoy

There is no way I see you or those types of adults fostering teens. People like you and several and certain other adults I have never seen come in with encouraging words - they are always sarcastic and aggressive - what did you say in one thread to the teens..oh lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya n u meant it with total sarcasm. Do you really think I will open my mail box to you for more of that. With a few kind female exceptions, the adults treat teens here like crap. So you can now go back to that thread on Marine life and add even more gloating comments for the men in that thread who are still enjoying assassinating me for daring to think about the environment different to their view.

CC is not a place for teens
 

Dorothy13

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I am blocking everyone because I wont be continuing here. You stated in the thread about Marine life in the News forum I should respect those men. They not only attacked me on subjects about my spiritual journey, and even mentioned sexuality, they then went on to say my avatar isn't me and now if you look they are now continuing on with it making jokes about me. You too hammered me insisting I talk about my spiritual status...why?...not because you or the others gave a dam about how I was travelling on my journey, but rather to use it as leverage in some way against me...u did it in the teen room and you repeated in that thread in order to bolster their bullying. Now these are mature Christian men - these are the ones u are telling me are the best of men...... Not only does it deepen my total distrust of men, I just think if this is it...if this is the best of Christianity then I'm out...which is what you and those men said - get out of CC - you whole heartedly supported them. Even when I took my own avatar down they made jokes about that too. If this is Christianity at its best then .... enjoyThere is no way I see you or those types of adults fostering teens. People like you and several and certain other adults I have never seen come in with encouraging words - they are always sarcastic and aggressive - what did you say in one thread to the teens..oh lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya n u meant it with total sarcasm. Do you really think I will open my mail box to you for more of that. With a few kind female exceptions, the adults treat teens here like crap. So you can now go back to that thread on Marine life and add even more gloating comments for the men in that thread who are still enjoying assassinating me for daring to think about the environment different to their view.CC is not a place for teens
Zoii...Please don't go. It's horrible to hear what they've been saying about you. And I really don't want you to leave. Sis, please? There are people here who DO care about you, and you're a really awesome girl. And, like I already told you, if you're leaving, I'm leaving too. And I'm serious. *hugs* Stay strong sis!
 
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Zoe1234

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zoii, stay strong. hugs.

Zoii...Please don't go. It's horrible to hear what they've been saying about you. And I really don't want you to leave. Sis, please? There are people here who DO care about you, and you're a really awesome girl. And, like I already told you, if you're leaving, I'm leaving too. And I'm serious. *hugs* Stay strong sis!
 

Elisabet

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I am blocking everyone because I wont be continuing here. You stated in the thread about Marine life in the News forum I should respect those men. They not only attacked me on subjects about my spiritual journey, and even mentioned sexuality, they then went on to say my avatar isn't me and now if you look they are now continuing on with it making jokes about me. You too hammered me insisting I talk about my spiritual status...why?...not because you or the others gave a dam about how I was travelling on my journey, but rather to use it as leverage in some way against me...u did it in the teen room and you repeated in that thread in order to bolster their bullying. Now these are mature Christian men - these are the ones u are telling me are the best of men...... Not only does it deepen my total distrust of men, I just think if this is it...if this is the best of Christianity then I'm out...which is what you and those men said - get out of CC - you whole heartedly supported them. Even when I took my own avatar down they made jokes about that too. If this is Christianity at its best then .... enjoy

There is no way I see you or those types of adults fostering teens. People like you and several and certain other adults I have never seen come in with encouraging words - they are always sarcastic and aggressive - what did you say in one thread to the teens..oh lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya n u meant it with total sarcasm. Do you really think I will open my mail box to you for more of that. With a few kind female exceptions, the adults treat teens here like crap. So you can now go back to that thread on Marine life and add even more gloating comments for the men in that thread who are still enjoying assassinating me for daring to think about the environment different to their view.

CC is not a place for teens
Do not ever let them make you feel like you are unwanted because the truth is that you are a very strong, mature, and wise girl.
I remembered my first thread in CC when i was dealing with some problems. Probably you forgot it, but i still remember how you make me feel strong at that time and give me some really awesome advices. Trust me, there are many people feeling the same as i do. You have given many inspirations to many people here.

Even adults need to grow in Christ. I guess it is impossible to COMPLETELY grow in Christ. There will always be many things to learn as a Christian. So, don't feel ashamed. The people who are underestimating other people's faith are the ones who "don't grow in Christ" (i don't really know how to say this in other words).

1 Timothy 4:12 (ESV) Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.

Please don't leave. If you want, probably you can just hang out in teens forum (where MOST of the posters are teens). Many teens here stand behind you, and we will always support you. Stay strong! :)
 
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I am blocking everyone because I wont be continuing here. You stated in the thread about Marine life in the News forum I should respect those men. They not only attacked me on subjects about my spiritual journey, and even mentioned sexuality, they then went on to say my avatar isn't me and now if you look they are now continuing on with it making jokes about me. You too hammered me insisting I talk about my spiritual status...why?...not because you or the others gave a dam about how I was travelling on my journey, but rather to use it as leverage in some way against me...u did it in the teen room and you repeated in that thread in order to bolster their bullying. Now these are mature Christian men - these are the ones u are telling me are the best of men...... Not only does it deepen my total distrust of men, I just think if this is it...if this is the best of Christianity then I'm out...which is what you and those men said - get out of CC - you whole heartedly supported them. Even when I took my own avatar down they made jokes about that too. If this is Christianity at its best then .... enjoy

There is no way I see you or those types of adults fostering teens. People like you and several and certain other adults I have never seen come in with encouraging words - they are always sarcastic and aggressive - what did you say in one thread to the teens..oh lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya n u meant it with total sarcasm. Do you really think I will open my mail box to you for more of that. With a few kind female exceptions, the adults treat teens here like crap. So you can now go back to that thread on Marine life and add even more gloating comments for the men in that thread who are still enjoying assassinating me for daring to think about the environment different to their view.

CC is not a place for teens

Ive never hammered you nor did I tell you to get out! That is downright lying zoii. Its all there on the forums..
Everything else youve accused me of has a story behind it and it isnt as you make it all seem. You are being exceedingly irrational and it really makes me sad. Throwing a fit isnt helping anyone especially you. I am not your enemy. I have only wanted to help you. I expressed that to you yesterday when I wrote what I did on the forum. I spent 2 hrs compiling lots of good stuff for you today. I really want to try. Im disappointed that you are letting fear and anger win. There are lots of adults who want to help you. Running away is not going to solve anything. I am sorry you wont stay. I am sorry you wont stick this out and see it through. People fail zoii. Noone is perfect. The only who was without sin is Christ. We all need him. He alone can help us to be as he knows we can become. Your journey with Jesus has nothing to do with anyone else but you and Christ! Dont give up on Jesus Christ. He is coming back very soon. I want you to be ready zoii. May the Lord bless your path and bring people in your life to help you heal. Amen
 

Calmador

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Hey zoii

I've talked to you various times. I think the best thing I can tell you is that Jesus Christ is the best Christianity has to offer... no Christians or random people on the internet on Christianchat.com who call themselves "Christian." Jesus Christ is the best Christianity offers and frankly the most important thing in Christianity. Often, there's a saying that Christians say among ourselves... the perception/judgement isn't horizontal... it's vertical. This means that our perception/jdugement isn't to compare ourselves to the person next to us... or to look up to other people as THE moral example... but instead that our perception/judgement is vertical which means to look up to God to be THE moral example. When we look up to God/Jesus... it's humbling... and inspiring. I recommend you just pray...

When I prayed and asked God for what I wanted... affirmation in my faith through a vision... I got it.

When I was lonely and had nobody I could trust and asked for company... God sent a random stranger to sit next to me

When I asked for a best friend, the kind I could talk to about deep intellectual topics.. God sent a guy named Jeff

Pray, just let him know what's on your mind... and ask him for what you'd like.. he'll provide. Lots of love alright sis... don't give up... I think your a smart girl and God loves you ok
 
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changedbychrist

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No way. The thing is, the Bible and science do line up. I mean, think about the big bang. Scientists say the universe simply burst into existence. But isn't that how you would expect it to respond to God's voice? I personally don't believe in the whole monkeys turning human aspect of evolution as there has not been a change in species before. But I do believe that humans have evolved. Example: people in the bible days were likely around 5 foot tall average. Humans have become much taller on average than that over time. That doesn't mean that God is less of a God. That doesn't mean He didn't create us. It's just a look at how He designed things to progress- whether or not it is outlined in the Bible.
As for the men thing: I used to have issues with this too. But then I thought about it. The Bible says "wives submit to your husbands" but it also says "husbands love your wives." Zoii, think about what this really means. Girls will have sex with just about any guy these days because they think they love them. (Now, I'm not saying this is right, that's not my point. You should always submit to God's law first.) People do stupid stuff for people who they think love them. It is programmed into us as females especially to want to submit to a man who loves us. When you find that right man- and you will, just give yourself time to heal- you will want to submit to him because he loves you. And love is not stupid: controlling, impatient, rude. Read 1 Corinthians 13. This is the man your looking for. And if you find him, your will naturally walk beside each other as partners in life.
 
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God knows your heart, zoii...and that's all that matters. Your concerns, your ideas and your willingness to grow in CHRIST reflects your sincerity in seeking a closer walk in HIM..and that is so admirable! God bless you!
 

blue_ladybug

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zoii, please don't let a few rotten apples drive you off CC. You belong here just as much as they do, probably even more. They have no right to tell you to leave CC, or make fun of you in other ways. Report them ALL, because that's online bullying and WILL NOT be tolerated if reported. IMO, alot of people deserve to be booted off CC, but YOU are not one of them. :) Put them on ignore and be done with their stupidity once and for all. Please don't leave, you are a tremendous asset and blessing to many here on CC. :)
 

blue_ladybug

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zoii, btw, the mods moved that thread..it's not there anymore...
 

tourist

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I am blocking everyone because I wont be continuing here. You stated in the thread about Marine life in the News forum I should respect those men. They not only attacked me on subjects about my spiritual journey, and even mentioned sexuality, they then went on to say my avatar isn't me and now if you look they are now continuing on with it making jokes about me. You too hammered me insisting I talk about my spiritual status...why?...not because you or the others gave a dam about how I was travelling on my journey, but rather to use it as leverage in some way against me...u did it in the teen room and you repeated in that thread in order to bolster their bullying. Now these are mature Christian men - these are the ones u are telling me are the best of men...... Not only does it deepen my total distrust of men, I just think if this is it...if this is the best of Christianity then I'm out...which is what you and those men said - get out of CC - you whole heartedly supported them. Even when I took my own avatar down they made jokes about that too. If this is Christianity at its best then .... enjoy

There is no way I see you or those types of adults fostering teens. People like you and several and certain other adults I have never seen come in with encouraging words - they are always sarcastic and aggressive - what did you say in one thread to the teens..oh lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya n u meant it with total sarcasm. Do you really think I will open my mail box to you for more of that. With a few kind female exceptions, the adults treat teens here like crap. So you can now go back to that thread on Marine life and add even more gloating comments for the men in that thread who are still enjoying assassinating me for daring to think about the environment different to their view.

CC is not a place for teens
I agree with what Lady Blue has said. Please stay and fight the good fight with those who, with the grace of God, genuinely care about others. You are an asset to our community and make it a better place for all of us.
 
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Hi everyone - I saw your replies and thanks to you all. I just wanted to say as much as I was upset at men here in CC, its not the reason why I will stay away - at least for a period... You all say stay strong but the thing is I'm not that strong. So I have to look after myself and back away so I dont step backwards into behaviours I'm trying to stay away from. I have to recognise when this site becomes a harm to me as opposed to offering anything that helps me (or at least allows me some enjoyment). I know I will probably have the odd glimpse to CC but for my own health I have to stay away. I do appreciate your comments though and hope you know that I'm not walking off in anger - but instead walking away for my own protection.

And adults... theres a few new teens that have popped up here - please please please - be gentle
Zoii
 
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Zoe1234

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dear zoii, take ur time. :)

Hi everyone - I saw your replies and thanks to you all. I just wanted to say as much as I was upset at men here in CC, its not the reason why I will stay away - at least for a period... You all say stay strong but the thing is I'm not that strong. So I have to look after myself and back away so I dont step backwards into behaviours I'm trying to stay away from. I have to recognise when this site becomes a harm to me as opposed to offering anything that helps me (or at least allows me some enjoyment). I know I will probably have the odd glimpse to CC but for my own health I have to stay away. I do appreciate your comments though and hope you know that I'm not walking off in anger - but instead walking away for my own protection.

And adults... theres a few new teens that have popped up here - please please please - be gentle
Zoii
 
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What does it mean if I cant accept certain biblical ideals. What if I cant accept the idea that a man must be head of a relationship and not a partner. What If I do actually believe god created the universe but not in 6 days but rather as per the big bang. What if I believe in evolution and accept the science of carbon dating. What if I fear men and want nothing to do with them let alone a relationship with one. If I believe in God and Jesus but accept that some things in the bible are not in line with what I believe in science or myself as a girl..... Does that mean I'm not christian.

At the moment I'm really sad n fragile so....
You're not supposed to accept anything but the limitations the world puts on Gods people.
 

Hansa

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zoii i think u are great gal..being 15 and yet talking directly what u feel about an issue..it' was just unfortunate that u were met by ppl like that in the forums,who made u feel this way.i think ppl have to give special attention to teens such as u cus u are the future and be cautious in the way they speak to u..otherwise all we leave is a bitter memory for u to take forward in life......u are 15 w'ther right or wrong ppl have to appreciate ur effort,the time u put in to talk about current issues.....i don't think i was like u at ur age..

i think u have good leadership qualities too which have to be nurtured by understanding and caring adults who would be willing to show u the way and be by ur side through everystorm(even friends)..thats the kind of ppl u need to consider ...just dont let ppl like the ones who upset u cause u to take a step back .....if they are not the type to lay their lives down for u....such ppl should make little to no impact in ur life even if they talk preach a good news to others....seriously i think we should just value ppl ....we need to encourage others whenever we have a chance....and u too should have been encouraged, not broken down...still there are many who do want u to do great in life..just talk and hang around with them...
 

Pilkington

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Zoii,

Not sure if you will ever see this. I totally understand why you needed to take a step back from CC for your own wellbeing.

I am so angry on your behalf. No one has the right to treat you as they did. You are entitled to your opinions and everyone's opinions should be respected, we will not agree with everything that is said. At times things will be debated and these discussions may become heated. However we need to take care as to how we respond to others. We are all on a spiritual journey and nothing I have seen you say makes you not a Christian. Even as an adult I am on a journey and my views and ideas change and are moulded over time.

There are some incredibly bigoted narrow minded individuals out there who will slate anyone whose opinion does not agree with there's. If they were open minded they would learn new things. Also I worry for those who say they have no doubts and have everything sorted, that is just not healthy. As long as doubts in the end drive you towards God they are positive things. God gave us brains and we really should use them to think and question. God tells us we should not judge others as we will be judged by the same measure.

What right did anyone have to say you should give your testimony if you want to contribute on an adult thread. If that's the case then everyone should have to give their testimony.

I have always enjoyed reading your threads and posts. You are bright and articulate and I wish there were more teens and adults like you.