Best Quote Regarding "who gets saved?" Dilemma

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Raine

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I like the saying... Believe in the God who believes in you.

So I choose the God who loves me and wants a personal and awesome relationship with me. :)
 

RickyZ

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So, how is it that a banned person can still post?

As for your post, I think it's hogwash.
 

ronnie2796

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I'm sad,...I wish he would've just behaved and maybe listened a little....He could have benefited from being here. Questions are okay, but he wasn't asking really questions,..Just starting trouble,..

But, people don't always do what you wish they would,.. Hmm :/
 
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Tintin

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Personally, I'm glad he's gone. Trouble is trouble.
 

RickyZ

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But, evidently he's not gone. So what's the point of being banned?

(Unless of course the banning happened in the last 24 hrs... but then wouldn't his posts be removed?)
 
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Tintin

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But, evidently he's not gone. So what's the point of being banned?

(Unless of course the banning happened in the last 24 hrs... but then wouldn't his posts be removed?)
I'm not sure. He's been banned for about 1.5 days by my reckoning.
 

RickyZ

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And yet here he is :)
 
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Tintin

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Yes, but the post is from 2 days ago. Likely he was banned not long after posting this thread.
 

RickyZ

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Now that'sinteresting, when I first answered it said 1 day ago. Maybe it needs to count by the hours :)
 

breno785au

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Sounds like a confused Greek who didnt know God and rested on his own knowledge. Good thing Paul ministered from the altar to the unknown god.
 
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Callmebadger

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Roman, actually. An Emperor, to be exact. I rather enjoyed reading his series of journals, collectively called "The Meditations". However, he was far from a Christian. He followed a paganistic way of thinking called stoicism which was outlawed many years later by Justinian I.
 
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Roman, actually. An Emperor, to be exact. I rather enjoyed reading his series of journals, collectively called "The Meditations". However, he was far from a Christian. He followed a paganistic way of thinking called stoicism which was outlawed many years later by Justinian I.
Personally I think logic should not matter based upon the source. Lest we ban all the works of philosophers just because they do not follow a religion that is popular today.

I agree with the picture but it of course conflicts with the "one true religion" of christianity.


Oh and for those asking upon banned post. According to the other banned post and my prior knowledge of Vbulletin, Post do not go away, but the account is locked.
 
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Tintin

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Christianity isn't a popular religion. It's probably the most unpopular religion ever, save silliness like Scientology.
 
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Christianity isn't a popular religion. It's probably the most unpopular religion ever, save silliness like Scientology.
Popular as in a vast majority of people follow it?

Though the only reason christianity didn't die out is because of Rome's adoption of it. Had Rome chosen another religion the world would be a much different place today.
 
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Rush

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Ohhhhh!! now there's a flame toss if ever I've seen one ;)

I would disagree with you. Pax Romana saw Christianity spread far and wide in spite of some long term and major persecution before it was adopted by Constantine a few hundred years after Christ.

It might look different, but even from a sociological point of view, discounting that it's of God and divinely appointed at the time it was; Christianity was known throughout the known world less than 100 years or so after Christ's sacrifice. It was there to stay well before Constantine.

Popular as in a vast majority of people follow it?

Though the only reason christianity didn't die out is because of Rome's adoption of it. Had Rome chosen another religion the world would be a much different place today.
 
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Ohhhhh!! now there's a flame toss if ever I've seen one ;)

I would disagree with you. Pax Romana saw Christianity spread far and wide in spite of some long term and major persecution before it was adopted by Constantine a few hundred years after Christ.

It might look different, but even from a sociological point of view, discounting that it's of God and divinely appointed at the time it was; Christianity was known throughout the known world less than 100 years or so after Christ's sacrifice. It was there to stay well before Constantine.
Well obviously I had nothing more to talk about since I just agreed that it was a good quote.
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Christianity wasn't anywhere near the popularity of any other major religions at the time. The fact that Rome (one of the greatest empire's of all time) picked it up is the main reason CHristianity would spread henceforth.
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The assumption that Christianity spread "because it is the word of god" is a false one. It spread thanks to colonization and conquest from the western world.


Though I know no one was making that point, I do like to point that out.
 
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kenthomas27

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The God of Israel is a God of turning tables, such as He did with Rome, a state that persecuted Christians long before "picking it up?", and rendering His promised land Israel smaller than New Jersey is to the U.S.A. to virtually dominate the middle east, and such tables as He will turn for you. What other Word survives this test of time except that which is true?
 
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Callmebadger

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I'd like to agree with Rush. Although you're correct in saying that Roman adoption of Christianity helped tremendously in spreading it, there's far too many "what if's" to say that it wouldn't have come out on top eventually. Even before the adoption, is was fairly well entrenched throughout the known world; not necessarily in the sense that everyone followed it, but that everyone knew of it.

And if the contemporaries followed the Bible accordingly and evangelized as is right, even a midst continued persecution (similar to missionary work in Africa and China, for example) Christianity still would have spread, though perhaps in a less profound way, to the rest of the world.
 
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The God of Israel is a God of turning tables, such as He did with Rome, a state that persecuted Christians long before "picking it up?", and rendering His promised land Israel smaller than New Jersey is to the U.S.A. to virtually dominate the middle east, and such tables as He will turn for you. What other Word survives this test of time except that which is true?
Which is odd, you seem to not realize that logic would affirm other religions as having a true god thanks to the Persian, Islamic, and Chinese empires.

I don't think the amount of believers effects the truth of a belief and it is foolish to argue such a case.

I'd like to agree with Rush. Although you're correct in saying that Roman adoption of Christianity helped tremendously in spreading it, there's far too many "what if's" to say that it wouldn't have come out on top eventually. Even before the adoption, is was fairly well entrenched throughout the known world; not necessarily in the sense that everyone followed it, but that everyone knew of it.

And if the contemporaries followed the Bible accordingly and evangelized as is right, even a midst continued persecution (similar to missionary work in Africa and China, for example) Christianity still would have spread, though perhaps in a less profound way, to the rest of the world.
Well it's also worth thinking about that if Rome picked lets say: Hinduism or Buddhism or even just kept Zeus, the world would be a much different place right now and Christianity would probably be as popular as the Shinto religion of Japan in terms of world influence.