if the pope is gods voice on earth, and the pope knowingly ignored child rapists in the church, and that republicans are the christian representatives in the USA and thus, anti abortion... can we then gather that god likes to have sex with children, and that republicans are anti abortion merely for the purpose of having more kids around to rape?
catholic church sex scandals
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I love how popes get forgiven for things like molesting children, anywhere else in the world they would be in prison. (and never be allowed to work at that job again.) If the company didn't say anything about it, and let a child molester stay and still work there that company would go out of bussiness.
However, the church seems to (and it always has) have some sort of special privelage. :/ The Vatican is a corrupt place, that really needs to be either extremely reformed, or shut down completely. (but this wont happen)
However, the church seems to (and it always has) have some sort of special privelage. :/ The Vatican is a corrupt place, that really needs to be either extremely reformed, or shut down completely. (but this wont happen)
O
Sure. You didn't mention politics in that sentence but sure, you mentioned it before. Let's go with that. So I guess every politician or anyone in a position of authority in the realm of politics is corrupt and are a bunch of liars. So even volunteers (who help out with any organization out of the kindness of their hearts) supervise other volunteers are in positions of authority. Since they volunteer in a political sphere, they are also corrupt and a bunch of liars. Is that staying on the subject enough, partner?
Perhaps you should just leave it be. You applied a sweeping view to a broad group of people which is, in itself, wrong. There are politicians out there who do the right thing as best as they can but those are the ones who never get any further than a small teeny tiny office. But they are still politicians.
Perhaps you should just leave it be. You applied a sweeping view to a broad group of people which is, in itself, wrong. There are politicians out there who do the right thing as best as they can but those are the ones who never get any further than a small teeny tiny office. But they are still politicians.
O
I take it that you too have never done anything wrong? Let's see... have you ever lied before? Have you ever lusted after another person? Because lusting = adultery according to Jesus and you claim to be a Christian so I assume you hold Jesus as your shining example. You should be given the scarlet letter then. Hmmm, let's see... have you ever hated anyone? Oops. According to Jesus, you just murdered. You should be thrown into prison then.
Here's the million dollar question: did you apologize to everyone that you have wronged? Have you forgiven everyone who has wronged you? Did you seek reconciliation with the people you wronged or those who wronged you? We both know the answer is "no."
Everyone does something wrong and there are times where everyone refuses to apologize or admit that they are wrong.
Here's the million dollar question: did you apologize to everyone that you have wronged? Have you forgiven everyone who has wronged you? Did you seek reconciliation with the people you wronged or those who wronged you? We both know the answer is "no."
Everyone does something wrong and there are times where everyone refuses to apologize or admit that they are wrong.
M
Intesting house of cards there....but no I wouldn't say that all adds up.
If you look to people in man-made positions of authority you will see hypocrisy and sometimes criminal behaviour, that's why I don't give a lot of attention to 'leaders', we all sin and power corrupts so people in authority generally sin more.....that's just the way it is and the catholic chuch and plenty of other churches have sexual abuse going on.
But don't get into thinking that the entire catholic church is full of predators or that republican politicians are all paedophiles behind closed doors, no person in authority is perfect and innocent of any wrong...but they aren't all bad to the bone either, and plenty of people in both those groups are probably disgusted by what happens just like you.
It's the bad side of human nature and it'll always be there, just don't let it get to the point where that's all you can see, because that isn't all there is.
If you look to people in man-made positions of authority you will see hypocrisy and sometimes criminal behaviour, that's why I don't give a lot of attention to 'leaders', we all sin and power corrupts so people in authority generally sin more.....that's just the way it is and the catholic chuch and plenty of other churches have sexual abuse going on.
But don't get into thinking that the entire catholic church is full of predators or that republican politicians are all paedophiles behind closed doors, no person in authority is perfect and innocent of any wrong...but they aren't all bad to the bone either, and plenty of people in both those groups are probably disgusted by what happens just like you.
It's the bad side of human nature and it'll always be there, just don't let it get to the point where that's all you can see, because that isn't all there is.
L
1 Corinthians 5
9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."
1 Corinthians 6
18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
M
One of the worst things about the media coverage of these things is they report it as 'catholic church sexual abuse'....and everyone watching thinks catholics are all perverts.....that is obviously wrong and it happens a lot with politics, one sex scandal for a democrat or a republican and suddenly people start saying they are all seeing prostitutes.
I treat the news like legend.....somewhere in there is a grain of the truth the rest is just exaggeration best ignored.
I treat the news like legend.....somewhere in there is a grain of the truth
the rest is just exaggeration best ignored.
One of the worst things about the media coverage of these things is they report it as 'catholic church sexual abuse'....and everyone watching thinks catholics are all perverts.....that is obviously wrong and it happens a lot with politics, one sex scandal for a democrat or a republican and suddenly people start saying they are all seeing prostitutes.
I treat the news like legend.....somewhere in there is a grain of the truth the rest is just exaggeration best ignored.
I treat the news like legend.....somewhere in there is a grain of the truth
the rest is just exaggeration best ignored.
Still, if the catholic church was anything other than religion, it would have gone out of bussiness years ago, a lot of people would be in prison, and only a select few weirdos would support them. (IE post era, manson family members)
M
Of course, one of the worst things about sexual abuse in churches is that the organisation will continue to go on regardless of what is done to deal with the specific situation, in that sense the perpetrators are beyond the reach of the law and that is what is most disgusting to people, especially the decent members of the church in question.
I think this is what has angered people about the reports on the catholic church abuse, not so much that it happened because sadly we all know abuse does happen, it is more the fact that a crime that is already treated with too much leniency was hardly punished at all, instead financial settlements were made, offences were covered up and perpetrators went unpunished.....and when it all came out the Pope says sorry and that is suppose to mean something.
I think this is what has angered people about the reports on the catholic church abuse, not so much that it happened because sadly we all know abuse does happen, it is more the fact that a crime that is already treated with too much leniency was hardly punished at all, instead financial settlements were made, offences were covered up and perpetrators went unpunished.....and when it all came out the Pope says sorry and that is suppose to mean something.