Christianity Look @ Homosexuality???...opinion please

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Prodigal_Boi

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For the homosexual community, appearance is everything! With the help of the media, it appeared that Pastor Falwell was lending his approval to Mel White and his Soul Force. The homosexual lie again received national prominence. The media was a most willing dupe to make the façade appear real.
This is what inevitably happens when one attempts to "build bridges" into the enemy's camp. The purity of the Gospel message becomes muddied. Rather than allowing God's Word to stand on its own in the condemnation of sin, we attempt to soften the message to make it more palatable to those it is supposed to convict. In an effort to be nicer than Jesus, we strip the Word of God of its convicting power to turn men from sin, and we allow them to wallow in it, "loving" them all the way to eternal ****ation. We call this love, but God calls it hate! Lev. 19:17; Pr 27:5-6
"…For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" 2 Cor. 6:14. There is no "common ground" between light and darkness, and we should not be building bridges to find "common ground" with sin. Mel White did not come to Thomas Road Baptist Church seeking God. He came seeking approval of his own sinful lifestyle. Some bridges need to be blown up and this is certainly one of them! We are in a battle to crush the lies of Satan, not to negotiate peace with him.
Instead of building bridges to homosexuality in order to appear reasonable and kind in the eyes of the media, we need to be storming the gates of hell. That's right! This lie, like that of child killing, is being used by Satan to rob, kill, and destroy. It is our duty and privilege as Christians to demolish this stronghold, and demolish every argument and pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God (2 Cor 10:3-6). We are not to build bridges to homosexuality; we are to totally destroy this lie by the blood of the lamb, the word of our testimony, not loving our own lives so much as to shrink from death. This is biblical love.....






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karuna

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I looked up the original article. Still not sure what the author is suggesting. What does it mean to storm the gates? I understand they weren't happy (10 years ago) about the situation in a particular church, but what were they suggesting, exactly?
 
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nobadee

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This movement you are talking about is being fueled by a modern philosophy that people should feel free to indulge in whatever makes them feel good. The people who are at the forefront of the cause use whatever tools they have at their disposal to support their new found take on life. In the church one of the common defenses for homosexuality is that we are all sinners; so, "He who hath not sin cast the first stone". Well, with that line of reasoning you could pretty much justify any form of indecent behavior, right?

There is a growing trend in the church being pushed by this radical philosophy that, we should live life to the fullest and have no regrets. They get away with this in the church by systematically picking apart the bible, picking and choosing all of the parts that benefit them; but, ignorantly skipping the messages of the many books in the bible.

We have a culture now that has become so soft on one another; that, the mere idea of constructive criticism is considered blaspheme.

"You can't tell me what I'm doing is wrong; because, you are no better".

Anyone who watches politics sees this irresponsible behavior every single day. Where did people stop admitting they are wrong and start pointing their fingers at everyone else? Just so that they can indulge up to their necks in their favorite flavor of sin. It's demoralizing for anyone who still believes in the FULL teachings of the bible; those who believe in self improvement, values and morals.

Sexuality is a subject I had studied while I was majoring in psychology and I gathered a lot of information over the years on the topic of homosexuality. It's not so, "natural" as they lead you to believe. If I had to make an analogy based on what I know; it would be equivalent to me telling everyone that being agoraphobic is both natural and a choice. Then society would be forced to treat them as a "special" race of people who deserve their own federal protections and privileges. Anyone with common knowledge can easily discern how that simply isn't true and makes no sense.

I'm sure that person enjoys the comfort of their home; but, should society be encouraging that individual to hide inside of their house their entire life or should we be working together to help to free this individual from being enslaved by the instability in their life/mind?

A radical would say, "Let them live how they want to live if it makes them happy". We often delude ourselves on what happiness is. These can be defined as addictions or bad habits. Those who crave instant gratification never find a sense of stability or satisfaction in their life. They are always looking for more to fill that sense of emptiness in their lives. They might seemed pleased with that they find for a short time; but, they will always be looking for their next fix. I make homosexuality sound like a drug. That is what it is; it's a sexual addiction. The person has become so overwhelmed with compulsions they have to go to taboo extremes to quench their cravings.

On that idea, any argument that can be made to support homosexuality can be used to support zoophilia or polygamy, oddly those people who support homosexuality seem to only support the one; because, they consider the other practices to be immoral, what irony.

I have had homosexual friends in the past. They are no longer homosexuals now and they thank me constantly for my support and insight. Their lives were upside down until I showed them another way. Having sex with countless partners, the uncontrollable emotions, depression/anxiety and the nonstop drinking/using and a lack of true love was not the "choice" they made; so, I gave them a way out, well, God did.
 
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Consumed

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homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. Last year at the Anglican Synod in England, Chief Justice Kirby of the high court of Australia(emminent person, respected,intellect etc) addressed the synod on the issue of homosexuality and Gods view. Being a Anglican all his life and holding the position from the highest court in the land he advocated homosexuality and stated that we read the OT & NT out of context, that society had moved on from those dark days etc etc etc. Im sitting there scratching my head thinking how can they even debate the topic at the highest level of the anglican church. This year anglicans announced they were allowing homosexual ministers and people take communion and embraced homosexuality that its ok with God, He did after all make them that way inclined.... I sent the Anglican church an email asking they reconsider their apostacy from scripture.

Justice kirby by the way i found out is openly gay. And no never got a reply from the anglican church but still pray for them.

Doctrines of demons and man
 
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Consumed

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Demons now, is it?

thought that comes declaring itself above the knowledge of God comes from the demonic realm, lifes choices are free will. before one acts out anything it started with a thought, tree of knowledge V tree of life....................... which fruit one eats from bears the fruit shown in their own life.
 
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karuna

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I make homosexuality sound like a drug. That is what it is; it's a sexual addiction. The person has become so overwhelmed with compulsions they have to go to taboo extremes to quench their cravings.
This is a fairly severe failure in critical thinking. If, say, a male homosexual is suffering from a sexual compulsion, why doesn't he satisfy it with the large number of willing females available to him? Why does it often happen that many older homosexual men have had less sex than their heterosexual counterparts? There are a number of homosexual men in their 50s, 60s who haven't ever had sex with a man because they feared the societal consequences. There are others who ended up marrying women and having sex just often enough to father children.

Also, have you ever heard of "lesbian bed death?" It turns out that the more secure a relationship becomes, the less often a couple has sex on average; this is especially true, statistically speaking, among lesbian couples. If they're together to quench their uncontrollable sexual cravings, then they're doing it wrong.

Sex in general is a drug. Anybody, gay or straight, who has had an orgasm knows this. Let's please not pretend that heterosexual sex is an over-the-counter remedy while homosexuality is some Class I restricted substance.

On that idea, any argument that can be made to support homosexuality can be used to support zoophilia or polygamy, oddly those people who support homosexuality seem to only support the one; because, they consider the other practices to be immoral, what irony.
This is false. You've not made yourself familiar with the arguments if you think what you say here makes sense. Just because you sense a slippery slope doesn't mean people must walk down it.

For instance, adult homosexual dyadic couples can provide each other emotional, physical, and financial support. When one of the couple comes down with, say, an autoimmune disorder, the other can take on more of the daily tasks, can help the other person get out of bed in the morning, etc. How can this be applied to zoophilia? How is a duck going to clean me up after I become unable to use the bathroom on my own?

Are you sure you're not simply making these arguments because you like to be hateful, smug, and self-satisified? It's certainly not because you're interested in the truth or being kind.
 
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ShelleBelle76

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This is a topic of interest to me because one of my very good friends for many years was gay. I babysat him when he was 5 years old, I watched him grow into his teenage years, and finally I watched him admit what people had already "known" for years, that he was gay. I sat with him while he struggled to understand why God would allow him to be gay, knowing it was a sin. I saw him fight it, I saw his confusion, his agony really and refusal to accept it for a long time, until he finally walked away from God and into the life he felt he had no choice but to live.

He told me, "This is not a choice! I don't choose to love men! Do you think, knowing how difficult it is to be accepted and understood, knowing that every religious figure in the world is condeming me to hell, that I would really choose to walk this path? If I really had a choice, don't you think I would choose the easier path?" He wanted to be married, to have children, to be a father, and he knew by accepting "his lot in life" he would never have any of that. What a difficult position to be in!

I am not making excuses for him, or even condoning his lifestyle. But I do think that before people make such harsh judgements on this matter, they should consider that these are people, who are just as confused about homosexuality as the Christians who don't understand and condemn it. These are people that don't truly understand how to break free of this, who don't even understand if they should be trying to break free of it. They are fighting their own identity crisis, and it wouldn't hurt to show a little bit of love and compassion towards them.

Don't you feel that if instead of being condemned for who they are, they were encouraged to seek a true and real relationship with God, that as they grew in their walk with God, HE would make the changes HE deemed necessary in their hearts and lives? Attacking someone's identity will only cause them to react with every defense they have. But allowing them to worship, to connect to God in their own way, will open the door to healing that only God can perform.

I just opened my Bible to find a scripture, and I do not lie when I say the first scripture my eyes fell on was Mark 10:27, "But Jesus looked at them and said, "With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE." NKJV

All things are possible with God! So let them come to God, and let HIM work out the details. :)
 
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thought that comes declaring itself above the knowledge of God comes from the demonic realm, lifes choices are free will. before one acts out anything it started with a thought, tree of knowledge V tree of life....................... which fruit one eats from bears the fruit shown in their own life.
What act? Homosexuality isn't an act. You do realize there's many men and women that are gay and chaste?
 
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karuna

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What act? Homosexuality isn't an act. You do realize there's many men and women that are gay and chaste?
This is often conveniently forgotten in these sorts of discussions. It apparently comes to surprise to some here that individual homosexuals may be less sexually active than heterosexuals, may be emotionally stable, and may not drink or use drugs. Gay people are not all lubricated ravers.