Do you agree that sex is a need?

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Trudes

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I agree with everything you said except for the masturbate part. I don't think masturbation is pleasing to many and most likely will leave the individual craving the actual act with a real person. if I had adult teenagers or friends who are yearning to have sex, I would encourage them to control their thoughts through much practice and prayer. I would also encourage them to be content without sex. they also would be encouraged to stay away from movies/music videos because they seem to be just about sex.
 
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Trudes

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Actually during that time of the month my hormones starts to rage. I actually don't like that time because I also get cravings for salty and fried foods. it is pretty strange I know.
 
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"..do you agree that sex is a need?" According to Maslow’s hierarchical pyramid, sex is a physiological need just as food is a need."

Well first it makes sense to define words and ideas. Maslow is just a psychologist giving his views on psychological matter, in this regard it concerns how humans think and behave in relation to sex. The question was not about psychologists and so is not relevant to the question itself. The question was not whether psychology is evolutionary or secularly based either. The likelihood is if persons do not understand subject matter including psychology they will deviate from the central theme.

What is sex and what does it mean for the individual or the functioning of society, is possibly a better framing of the question. Well, biblically speaking, the two flesh are to become one and for this reason he leaves his main family and makes another one with his wife, speaking as a man of course. Different people will likely share dissimilar views on sexual activity, depending upon Christians whether they are married, single, living together but unmarried, or other. Well, Christian married couples in the church enjoy sex. If a long-term adult has remained celibate the likelihood is that he or she has found other ways to stop them thinking about sex, such as employment or in general just keeping busy. Unmarried Christians living together, single Christians, and those Christians dating generally, participating in sex may rationalise it by saying God understands that we're human so it's ok. The problem is the world outside the church has no such moral rules and will engage in sex albeit with babies or sexual disease as the consequence. So yes sex to some extent is a physical need in terms of being like everyone else, ie sociologically and psychologically. The bible indicates it is such too although indirectly..

The biological theme in contrast is that life without sex may be viewed by others as a life not worth living. Some may say we're programmed for sex, or are we socially engineered that way? It would help explain why young people quickly abandon their virginity easily, notwithstanding pressure from peers or the person they are 'dating.'

Sex on the other hand is the most intimate way a person can be close to another human being. It is more likely to be that making love is a benefit to all persons as those exeriencing it makes him or her feel good, and gives some quality to the dulldrums of life. Alternately, were it not for sex the earth would be empty of humans and animals. Respondents please don't deviate to animals having sex as that was not the question! On the other hand, we can defer sex for as long as we desire given of course there is such strengths to abstain.

"If sex is in fact a need, then this explains why it is important for couples to get married and start a family.

However, what about single Christians who are not married, how do you suggest they control this need so that they would not sin against God?"

If life were so simple it would be a very easy solution. This is not the case. There are the informal rules, ie human desire and attraction which play their part too. The more attractive the person is in all probability he or she will have 'dating' or marriage capital. In simple terms dating capital etc means they are either eligible in terms of appearance or other attributes, may be they have a good job. Nevertheless the more stronger a person is the more they will adapt to being single, whereas others who find it difficult living alone are likely to become depressed or avoid church. It is very difficult to conclude this statement with a view one way or the other. It is very easy to say have more faith...this will not help hurting people. We could therefore say is the church too superficial and needs to change?
 
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Kia123

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Even if it is not a need, it is pushed onto humans as if it is!
sex is one of those thouchy subjects that no one wants to talk about >< but it needs to be discussed because i feel that especially as a teenager sex is the hardest temptation.
All in all i dont think that sex is a serious sin, (i know that will get me into trouble with some) But using sex as an escape from reality and using it as a drug thats a serious sin. The chemicals released during sex are sinilar to those in drugs so its highly addictive and many use it like a drug.
The real issue is dealing with why people use it as an scape instead of the way GOD intended.

haha im not sure if that made sense but hopefully it did :p
 
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Ugly

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Not as serious? The bible would have something different to say about that. And by labeling something 'not a serious sin'? So, what? This sin will get you a swat on the wrist, but that one sends you to hell? This sin is more forgivable than another? How does this concept work? Isn't disobedience disobedience? Does God say 'oh well, its just a sexual sin, no big deal'?
So if you sin in one way its not big deal, if you do the same sin in a different way its worse? I would like to see some evidence of this concept. Seems to me either you sin, or you don't. They all need to be forgiven.
And if you want to go the biblical route, the bible does separate sexual sin from others. It is the Only sin listed as 'against your own body'. Its such a special sin it got its own classification. So, yeah, to me that doesn't match up with your theories.
 
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Ace85

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I heard a preacher once say that in marriage, sex is needed - regularly. He explained that without that intimacy, it can allow the enemy to get between them.
 
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aubrey

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#67
Honestly, I don't believe sex is a need and I never plan on having sexual intercourse or intimate relationships. When I was younger I worried that the Bible would say I had to get married. For anyone who cares, here's my relief:

1 Corinthians 7:8-9
Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
 
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Kia123

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#68
Honestly, I don't believe sex is a need and I never plan on having sexual intercourse or intimate relationships. When I was younger I worried that the Bible would say I had to get married. For anyone who cares, here's my relief:

1 Corinthians 7:8-9
Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
I understand what your saying i hope :)
but many chrisitians marry young because they worry they wont last.... what if u marry the wrong person???
 
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BabyTeddy79

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Nope it is not.

My classmates tend to give excuse that sex is something like an addiction once a person becomes sexually active. But like any addiction it can be overcome using will power & determination on the part of the addicts and also love & support of people in their lives.

I think it starts in the mind. The world is saturated with evil & perversions. Most people fall into temptation as they hang around the source of temptation long enough to get enticed. Any kind of sin can be avoided with conscious & continuous effort.

We should make a "conscious decision" to avoid sin by identifying the sources of sin (places, friends, entertainments, hobbies, etc, which opens a door for temptation must be closed for good).

Regarding sex, people should accept the fact that their sexuality doesn't belong to them. It belongs to the husband/wife as the case may be. Jesus said that its the same as committing adultery in the heart to look at someone with lust in our eyes. Clean mind leads to pure life.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Even if it is not a need, it is pushed onto humans as if it is!
sex is one of those thouchy subjects that no one wants to talk about >< but it needs to be discussed because i feel that especially as a teenager sex is the hardest temptation.
All in all i dont think that sex is a serious sin, (i know that will get me into trouble with some) But using sex as an escape from reality and using it as a drug thats a serious sin. The chemicals released during sex are sinilar to those in drugs so its highly addictive and many use it like a drug.
The real issue is dealing with why people use it as an scape instead of the way GOD intended.

haha im not sure if that made sense but hopefully it did :p

Fornication is a very serious sin.
 
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"I heard a preacher once say that in marriage, sex is needed - regularly. He explained that without that intimacy, it can allow the enemy to get between them."

I can't imagine the enemy getting in bed with them. Honey, ok stop now i need to go to work..we're not siamese twins. Ok humour aside. As Kia said, there is a link to sex and addiction which has a similar effect to the brain as drugs such as cocaine do. Am sure others would say 'that's just the world'...but the ignorant Christian makes him or her out of touch with modern reality. What is needed really is not too regular sex, but open communication, as sex, it could be said, will lose its specialness. Celebrating Christmas every day would mean nothing and the same could be said of sex, it would make us too animalistic perhaps. Are we animals who need sex or thinking humans? The pastor is likely to relate his personal and other experiences and rationalise it with biblical ideas or principles. If all pastors are called by God, why don't they all say or think about exactly the same things. The simple answer they live in the world like you and I.
 
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Trudes

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The more sex you get the more sex you want. What you sew you reap. You get accustomed to satisfying a desire. Which in turn makes it more "necessary" to satisfy it the next time. Which doesn't really matter if you're married. But if you're not married it's not a good idea. Anyway, sex is not a need in the way that one needs food. Sex is a need in the way that one needs good, western food. I'm 27. Never had sex. And the older I get the less my body "needs" it. So apart from the obligatory snickering this post requires of some random atheist, I think it proves that these psychiatrists are rather misguided.

"Good western food" -- this is interesting.
 
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Trudes

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The more sex you get the more sex you want. What you sew you reap. You get accustomed to satisfying a desire. Which in turn makes it more "necessary" to satisfy it the next time. Which doesn't really matter if you're married. But if you're not married it's not a good idea. Anyway, sex is not a need in the way that one needs food. Sex is a need in the way that one needs good, western food. I'm 27. Never had sex. And the older I get the less my body "needs" it. So apart from the obligatory snickering this post requires of some random atheist, I think it proves that these psychiatrists are rather misguided.



Actually, sex is way overrated today in society. Communication is the key in any relationship and especially in marriage. Sex is just a small part of the marriage relationship. When we look at the divorce rate, in the world and in the church, we see that sex could not save their marriage. I would probably liken sex to drinking a small glass of lemonade on a hot sticky day. I am not sure why we are talking about food. Maybe food is better than sex.
 
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Trudes

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"..do you agree that sex is a need?" According to Maslow’s hierarchical pyramid, sex is a physiological need just as food is a need."

Well first it makes sense to define words and ideas. Maslow is just a psychologist giving his views on psychological matter, in this regard it concerns how humans think and behave in relation to sex. The question was not about psychologists and so is not relevant to the question itself. The question was not whether psychology is evolutionary or secularly based either. The likelihood is if persons do not understand subject matter including psychology they will deviate from the central theme.

What is sex and what does it mean for the individual or the functioning of society, is possibly a better framing of the question. Well, biblically speaking, the two flesh are to become one and for this reason he leaves his main family and makes another one with his wife, speaking as a man of course. Different people will likely share dissimilar views on sexual activity, depending upon Christians whether they are married, single, living together but unmarried, or other. Well, Christian married couples in the church enjoy sex. If a long-term adult has remained celibate the likelihood is that he or she has found other ways to stop them thinking about sex, such as employment or in general just keeping busy. Unmarried Christians living together, single Christians, and those Christians dating generally, participating in sex may rationalise it by saying God understands that we're human so it's ok. The problem is the world outside the church has no such moral rules and will engage in sex albeit with babies or sexual disease as the consequence. So yes sex to some extent is a physical need in terms of being like everyone else, ie sociologically and psychologically. The bible indicates it is such too although indirectly..

The biological theme in contrast is that life without sex may be viewed by others as a life not worth living. Some may say we're programmed for sex, or are we socially engineered that way? It would help explain why young people quickly abandon their virginity easily, notwithstanding pressure from peers or the person they are 'dating.'

Sex on the other hand is the most intimate way a person can be close to another human being. It is more likely to be that making love is a benefit to all persons as those exeriencing it makes him or her feel good, and gives some quality to the dulldrums of life. Alternately, were it not for sex the earth would be empty of humans and animals. Respondents please don't deviate to animals having sex as that was not the question! On the other hand, we can defer sex for as long as we desire given of course there is such strengths to abstain.

"If sex is in fact a need, then this explains why it is important for couples to get married and start a family.

However, what about single Christians who are not married, how do you suggest they control this need so that they would not sin against God?"

If life were so simple it would be a very easy solution. This is not the case. There are the informal rules, ie human desire and attraction which play their part too. The more attractive the person is in all probability he or she will have 'dating' or marriage capital. In simple terms dating capital etc means they are either eligible in terms of appearance or other attributes, may be they have a good job. Nevertheless the more stronger a person is the more they will adapt to being single, whereas others who find it difficult living alone are likely to become depressed or avoid church. It is very difficult to conclude this statement with a view one way or the other. It is very easy to say have more faith...this will not help hurting people. We could therefore say is the church too superficial and needs to change?


I am starting to realize that the “need for sex” is “all in a person’s the mind.” What I am trying to say is that if a person masters controlling his/hers thoughts, then naturally he/she may no longer desire sex. Let’s say a person thinks about sex several times every day, he/she will soon feel that it is impossible to live without it. However, if we mastered intrusive sexual thoughts, then “by beholding we become changed.”
If sex is “all in the mind,” then this explains why some single people feel as though they can’t live without it and sometimes hastily gets married. Controlling our thoughts is the hard part because it is pleasing to us. Sin is naturally pleasing but with God‘s help it, all things are possible.
When I was talking classes a while ago, I had to study Maslow’s diagram. I think the reason sex is labeled a physical need maybe because the male sex hormone (testosterone) can affects a man’s sex drive. I never did read Maslow rationale for why they believe sex was a need.
Either way, we can live without sex and God holds us accountable for our actions.

 
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Nuns_n_roses

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It may not be a need, but it sure feels like one! :D (jk don't hate me!)
 
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Trudes

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#76
I heard a preacher once say that in marriage, sex is needed - regularly. He explained that without that intimacy, it can allow the enemy to get between them.

I had a co-worker who informed me that her husband's penis was removed. I think he had cancer. Anyhow, sex is not a need this couple will not be able to participate in the sex act. The wife just have to deny her desires.
 
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Trudes

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#77
It may not be a need, but it sure feels like one! :D (jk don't hate me!)

Sin is naturally pleasing. This is why if somone is thinking about sex, it is hard to stop the thought sometimes because sin is pleasing.
 
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Trudes

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I understand what your saying i hope :)
but many chrisitians marry young because they worry they wont last.... what if u marry the wrong person???

Yeah, people sometimes marry because of this and I know one person who is now divorce. She was honest, she said she was young and curious. I don't think she loved him.
 
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Trudes

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#79
Honestly, I don't believe sex is a need and I never plan on having sexual intercourse or intimate relationships. When I was younger I worried that the Bible would say I had to get married. For anyone who cares, here's my relief:

1 Corinthians 7:8-9
Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

I know I use to hear people say often "better to marry than to burn." Marriage is permanent and it requires a lot of work. I would encourage people to just pray these intrusive thoughts away and marry when they are spiritually, emotinally and fiancially ready for marriage.
 
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BabyTeddy79

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Masturbation might appear as a better option when compared to fornication, but it is not. God wouldn't approve sinning in the mind. It is a widely known fact that masturbation is done with the help of inappropriate fantasies.

None of us will feel great if our spouse/future spouse is masturbating using fantasies. Won't it hurt us? Won't you feel the pang if they were having sex with someone in their mind? That's not faithfulness. We are obliged to maintain purity. Our sexuality doesn't belong us.

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Before trying to control the mind from thinking about sex, EDUCATE THE MIND in this order.

1. Sex is very normal. Nothing wrong in itself.

2. Sex is meant for married couples.

3. Our sexuality doesn't belong to us.

4. We shouldn't lust at anyone as it means adultery (and also coveting someone's one unless you are going to marry everyone you ogle).

5. Fornication, adultery & prostitution are equally sinful. Having sex outside marriage is BARTER SYSTEM of prostitution where people exchange sex for sex.

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