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jimmydiggs

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that whole chapter is talking about judgment day.
Which is why, not everyone are his sheep. :) He died, for those that would be saved. You laid out the dots, just draw the lines. He says who the sheep are, those that will be saved (your reference to judgement day). He says he lays his life down for his sheep. So, he lays his lays down for those that will be saved. :)

Not everyone will be saved, so not everyone is "paid for".

now I'm through here.
Okay.

Peace. Come back if you ever find a verse and want to talk about it.
 
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Ugly

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Claim sickness all you want but Satan can't touch me. :)
*looks for where he claims sickness and doesn't see it.

And nice job dodging the point of Job. Hurray for WOF Heresey!

Oh, by the way, your little positive confession teachings are shown to be strongly rooted in occult teachings. So enjoy your little false gospel teachings.
 
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hislastwalk

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*looks for where he claims sickness and doesn't see it.

And nice job dodging the point of Job. Hurray for WOF Heresey!

Oh, by the way, your little positive confession teachings are shown to be strongly rooted in occult teachings. So enjoy your little false gospel teachings.
Saying God gave you sicknesses is heresy.
Paul said we don't live by sight, or by feelings, but by FAITH & SPIRIT. :)
 
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hislastwalk

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"The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they
may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly." - John 10:10

God is NOT a thief! Sickness and disease exist
because sin exists. SICKNESSES IS NOT OF GOD!


"He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the
unjust." - Matthew 5:45

Notice all good things are all poured out indisciminately as well.

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of
lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning." - James 1:17

All good things come from God. There is not bad in God.
 
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hislastwalk

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Oh, and I must be doing something right. I had back disks in my back, commanded them to heal, and they are healed now. I haven't been sick. Etc. so try telling me I'm false, Satan can't cause good. I use to be gay, only God changes all of that.
 
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Kyouken

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I don't know if you know this, hislastwalk, but his teachings are available for free on his website.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Referring to him, explains a lot.


EQUIP.org said:
The most controversial aspect of Wommack’s teaching is its incorporation of Word of Faith theology. As Word of Faith teachers twist Scripture to support the occult belief that faith is a force, words are containers of the force, and through faith-filled words we can speak things into reality, Wommack similarly takes Matthew 18:18 out of context as a proof text for his belief that “We can actually bind up the positive results of sowing and reaping in a godly person and loose the attacks of Satan against them by the words we speak (Prov. 18:21; Jas. 3:5-6, 9-10).”[3]

http://blog.equip.org/?p=205 <--- source
 
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hislastwalk

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Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits. -Proverbs 18:21
 
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jimmydiggs

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I don't know if you know this, hislastwalk, but his teachings are available for free on his website.
Stay away from Word of Faith. It is known heresy.
 
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Kyouken

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Stay away from Word of Faith. It is known heresy.
I've already asked Ugly, and what I got from what he explained to me was:

"Blab it grab it, name it claim it."

Could you please explain to me what this "Word of Faith" thing is?
 
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hislastwalk

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I've already asked Ugly, and what I got from what he explained to me was:

"Blab it grab it, name it claim it."

Could you please explain to me what this "Word of Faith" thing is?
"Word of faith" people believe if you command a sickness, etc to leave in Jesus name, and you have faith, then it'll leave. Which is what Paul taught.
 
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jimmydiggs

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I've already asked Ugly, and what I got from what he explained to me was:

"Blab it grab it, name it claim it."

Could you please explain to me what this "Word of Faith" thing is?
This is a good article:

GotQuestions.org said:
At the heart of the Word of Faith movement is the belief in the "force of faith." It is believed words can be used to manipulate the faith-force, and thus actually create what they believe Scripture promises (health and wealth). Laws supposedly governing the faith-force are said to operate independently of God's sovereign will and that God Himself is subject to these laws. This is nothing short of idolatry, turning our faith—and by extension ourselves—into god.

From here, its theology just strays further and further from Scripture: it claims that God created human beings in His literal, physical image as little gods. Before the fall, humans had the potential to call things into existence by using the faith-force. After the fall, humans took on Satan's nature and lost the ability to call things into existence. In order to correct this situation, Jesus Christ gave up His divinity and became a man, died spiritually, took Satan's nature upon Himself, went to hell, was born again, and rose from the dead with God's nature. After this, Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to replicate the Incarnation in believers so they could become little gods as God had originally intended.

Following the natural progression of these teachings, as little gods we again have the ability to manipulate the faith-force and become prosperous in all areas of life. Illness, sin, and failure are the result of a lack of faith, and are remedied by confession—claiming God's promises for oneself into existence. Simply put, the Word of Faith movement exalts man to god-status and reduces God to man-status. Needless to say, this is a false representation of what Christianity is all about. Obviously, Word of Faith teaching does not take into account what is found in Scripture. Personal revelation, not Scripture, is highly relied upon in order to come up with such absurd beliefs, which is just one more proof of its heretical nature.
Source:Is the Word of Faith movement biblical?
 
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hislastwalk

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That's not true.
You won't be healed if you doubt. &not all wof ppl believe in wealth. There are pentecostals, etc who believe in wealth too. The bible says to not live by how you feel/see, etc. you break a arm, say "It's healed in Jesus name." Nothing wrong with that.
That artical is not 100% accurate.

Jesus never promised Satan won't send storms, but we have the authority in Christ to rebuke those storms. The church needs to stop sitting on their bum, and start walking as Christ did.
 
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hislastwalk

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Oh, and little gods? I've NEVER heard that. Remove the blinder.
 
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jimmydiggs

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So you say I'm wrong about it working?
No, "Word of Faith" does not work.

When I've seen it work?
I don't know what you've seen, but I know the devil can be quite the deceiver.

Oh noes!



How dare someone question your authority!?!?

It's relatively easy to clean up the outside of the cup.

Calvanism is heresy.
Coming from the one who says everyone is saved?

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Also, Jesus says who he died for.

John 10

11 &#8220;I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13 The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.

14 &#8220;I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me&#8212; 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father&#8212;and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life&#8212;only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.&#8221;
 
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hislastwalk

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No, "Word of Faith" does not work.


I don't know what you've seen, but I know the devil can be quite the deceiver.

Oh noes!



How dare someone question your authority!?!?

It's relatively easy to clean up the outside of the cup.


Coming from the one who says everyone is saved?
The pharisees said Jesus worked for Satan.
:) it does work. I'm living proof. Now go. You'll see, trust me.