Jesus surviving cruifiction and going to india ???? what the??

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Emz1066

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ok basically i watched this documentry about jesus surving the cruifiction and travelled to india and died there and they have his tomb where his body is and footprints? they use evidence from like early text etc ? if this is true then it means that we are worshipping in vain or something as we have been taught different from the bibles we have now? do you think this is true?
 
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no it's not true, I hate to see this stuff even brought up, because it sometimes makes people who aren't saved wonder, of course you could say he survived the crucifixion because he rose again from the dead, only one in all of time who did, but that's the point, in a physical body, you forget they ran spears through him and his blood poured out, ho physical human body could survive what they did to him. This entire "he's in India" thing is nothing but another lie from the enemy to confuse people
 
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Emz1066

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ah yes , yeah it has confused me so much i hate it when it happans makes me question everything
 
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lost1972

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the devil is the author of confusion, that's what he wants you to do, be confused about the truth
 
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Emz1066

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they have a lot of evidence on this though
 
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nw2u

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No. Just no.
 
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Emz1066 said:
they have a lot of evidence on this though
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Such as?

I think their argument falls flat on its face, for the simple fact that surviving the kind of things that Jesus went through is basically impossible.

The scourging before his crucifixion would have given him intense pain and severe blood loss. He probably went into hypovolemic shock, where his heart would try speeding up to compensate for the lack of blood. How he could stay conscious is beyond me.

His crucifixion and the piercing of his side left him basically useless hands and feet, dislocated shoulders, and a pierced heart and lung.

His time spent in the tomb would have left him dehydrated and starving.

These are not things a person could survive.

This is not a man who could get to India, unless he was assisted by his disciples, an improbability all its own.
 
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Emz1066

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yeah i guess that makes sense , if it was true it wouldnt explain how jesus got better thanks guys
 
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gideon007

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it's more or less the same with this verse:

Mat 24:23 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it.
Mat 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

as Christian we should not believe on things easily, we must base everything from the word of God, else that will lead us astray...
 
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Emz1066

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yes i remember that certiantly somthing to thing about
 
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jimmydiggs

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Hello Emz1066 (is the 1066 for the battle of hastings?)

If you like long reads...

Medical Evidence for Jesus' Death <--- click

More importantly though, scripture tells us he died. The Gospels are written as accounts of that, by people who witnessed it, and accounts gathered from those who witnessed it.
 
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Emz1066

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when i watched it , it was saying he may of had a clinical death and thats how he might of survived the cruifiction no the 1066 just a random number in the name lol
 
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jimmydiggs

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Emz1066 said:
when i watched it , it was saying he may of had a clinical death and thats how he might of survived the cruifiction
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Ok, I'm going to have to ask you to explain. I fail to see how someone can die "clincally" but not be dead at all.

There is no medical way Jesus would have survived being stabbed with a spear. Especially considering the spear stabbed part of his heart.
 
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Emz1066

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hello can you show me the part in the bible where it says that so i can see it well basically when i watched it they described it like a coma thing where you appear to be dead and that he recovered in the tomb. Im starting to doubt that body is jesus though
 
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hello can you show me the part in the bible where it says that so i can see it well basically when i watched it they described it like a coma thing where you appear to be dead and that he recovered in the tomb.
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John 19:34
Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.


Im starting to doubt that body is jesus though
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There wasn't a body left in the tomb.

[youtube]AGDlomcwOJc[/youtube]

Also, we have this from Josephus (mentioned in the video).

3. Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, (9) those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; (10) as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
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Josephus source: http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/ant-18.htm <--- click

Josephus was Jewish, and did not believe the Resurrection of Christ. What we have here is that he is testifying that there were many (who were called Christians) that believed it.

Additionally, almost no reliable Historian (indeed, very very few) deny that this verse is accurate in it's recording:

Matthew 28:12–13 (NASB95)
12 And when they had assembled with the elders and consulted together, they gave a large sum of money to the soldiers, 13 and said, “You are to say, ‘His disciples came by night and stole Him away while we were asleep.’

Even the Jews (who were against the disciples and Jesus) acknowledged the tomb was empty.

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jimmydiggs

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I do want to caution you about this:

Do not put your trust and faith in what is called "evidence". If your faith rests upon what someone else says about God (for example, saying he doesn't exist, or saying jesus wasn't crucified) you are trusting the wrong people. Our faith is to be upon God, in God. "Evidence" such as what I have posted is not to be a crutch. It is a tool, it is helpful, and it can help us to believe when we are small in faith.

Tomorrow I think I will post on Presuppositionalism, something very important to understand about those who argue that there is no God.

For now, I must go to bed.
 
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Emz1066

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jimmydiggs thank you i was talking about the body in india , i will check those videos out later but thank you
 
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Emz1066

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hi i was talking about the tomb in india where they so say jesus body is now , i know the tomb he first was in was empty :)
 
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jimmydiggs

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Emz1066 said:
hi i was talking about the tomb in india where they so say jesus body is now , i know the tomb he first was in was empty :)
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If Jesus Resurrected, and then went into heaven as scripture says. He couldn't have left a body in India.
 
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