Need help on what to do

[C0nfused]

Ok well I just made this profile to hopefully get my question answered. I am a christain but im not saved. Fyi. But the problem is,i have a friend who recently told me he worships satan. I asked him about it before after reading something he wrote. He told me no and laughed about it. I kept my distance after that because the things he were saying were hurtful. I cant repeat it(bad vocab) but he was saying how ppl are stupid for worshipin a god that doesnt care,he hates jesus,he never heard jesus but talks 2 the best god everynight(satan), .. And so on.

Days later,he admits that he does praise satan . And asked was I still his friend. I told him I cant be . Plus,he cursed out jesus hundreds of times! He got upset and told me im judgin him and I was never a true friend. But im not judging at all. I just cant deal with someone like that. I never talked down 2 him.he talked down 2 me and everyone else who believes. He told me 2 go pray 2 my so called god and he knows hes not going 2hell because he praising the true one(I never said he was goin 2hell) . Am I wrong for not being friends with him because of this? Why is he mad at me when hes the one saying hurtful things? I never told him hes wrong or anything cuz he just went off.i was getting very mad so I left it alone. I feel bad.idk. Did I do the right thing?

 

[nukreation]

Hi there, I don't think you've done the wrong thing not wanting to be friends with the guy if he's mocking you for your beliefs, nor would you be doing the wrong thing if you chose to remain friends with him. It is sad that he has been deceived by that liar. I'm curious though why you say you're a christian but you aren't saved? Isn't everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus saved?

 

[Marrek90]

I think you did the right thing . In our path to salvation we often have to say no to things we really liked and even loved in our past.
About your friend's attitude .. it might not be the case here , but people would say that you are judging them because they feel guilty their conscience is talking to them and they will get angry at you for making them feel that way .

 

[C0nfused]

Why? Because its the religion ive grown up in and that I feel is more for me than the others. I didnt know in oder to believe and claim christainity I will have to be saved.. Hmm.

 

[nukreation]

Why not ask Jesus into your heart then? People think that you have to make big changes to be a christian, but when you ask Jesus into your heart something changes inside of you.

 

[Jaymie]

Nukreation has a great point. Once your declare Christ as your savior there is a joy inside you that is ignited and you do change. You can see Christ shining through people in the way that they carry themselves. Praying for you C0nfused!

 

[shemaiah]

I too agree with nuk. To be saved all you have to do is ask Jesus into your heart and let Him be Lord and Saviour of your life, and He will mould you in His own perfect way.
As for your friend, He is not good company for you as He is driven by hate and has been deceived. The best you can do is keep praying for Him even if it takes years! You see love is only found in God and your friend is way far from love as a result his hateful behaviour has come up. I will pray for you. God bless

 

[Ugly]

Saying you're a Christian because that's the family is like saying i'm a car because i was born in a car garage. I know, i was raised in a home where our religion was Christian. I didn't know what that meant other than we were good, moral people that believed in God and were going to heaven. Fact of the matter is i was a sinner bound for hell.

And while i would love to hear you get saved, i don't suggest taking a casual approach to it. You first need to understand what it means, and why its needed. And here it is... all people, Christian or not, are sinners. Sin requires a punishment. Hell is that punishment. But Jesus came to the earth, the Son of God, and was crucified. And then three days later rose from the dead. By doing this He took the punishment we deserved, in our place, and opened a way to heaven. He also bridged the gap between God and man, allowing mankind, through prayer to Jesus, to come to God. This is our salvation. This is being saved. But you first need to know, and agree with the belief that you're a sinner, and in need of Gods salvation. Then, once you know and accept all these things, you can make a true honest decision to accept Jesus. To become born again. To be adopted into Gods family and be a true Christian. If you're unsure how to take that final step i'm sure anyone on this thread would be happy to help you. Or go into the chats and let people know you want to accept Jesus and need someone to help lead you in a prayer.

 

[C0nfused]

Wow. Didnt think I would be judged so much. I would have never said I wasnt saved having known this is how yall would respond to me. Just because im not "perfect" does not mean i dont belong in the christian religion.i know my faults and I am working on them. But for u guys to basically say im not christain because im a "sinner" is wrong. Who are you to tell me my place?? Who are you to judge my actions??who are you to point the finger and say im livin wrong? Im sure I will never return to this site again. Sad

 

[Ugly]

Its not judging. Its in the bible. The bible. The book that defines what Christianity is. The belief you claim to believe, yet deny in the same breath.

John 3:3 Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

C0nfused ''i am not saved''.

So, how exactly are we judging you when you said it with your own words?

Ephesians 2:8-9 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.''

So according to the book that dictates and defines our very beliefs, you are admittedly not truly a member of the Body of Christ. No one has put you down for it. Or attacked you. People only encouraged you to take the next step.

By the way, Romans 3:23 ''For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.'' We all had to admit to being sinners before being saved. And we all still struggle with sin.

Also... show me.... exactly.... where anyone had any expectation of you being perfect. Or where anyone else declared their own perfection.

All i see is a number of people who tried to help you and you get defensive and throw out unfounded accusations. I've used the bible, which you should believe in if you are a Christian, to support my, and everyone elses point. Now what facts do you have to prove us wrong? And i've requested you give me actual proof of where 'perfection' was expected, implied, or mentioned. So use facts to show me that. All the responses i saw were from people acting out of a desire for you to have a relationship with God and to be saved, and not just follow a religion with no substance behind it. People spoke sincerely and compasionately. So please... find the facts here to prove me wrong.

 

[Tobby17]

Wow. Didnt think I would be judged so much. I would have never said I wasnt saved having known this is how yall would respond to me. Just because im not "perfect" does not mean i dont belong in the christian religion.i know my faults and I am working on them. But for u guys to basically say im not christain because im a "sinner" is wrong. Who are you to tell me my place?? Who are you to judge my actions??who are you to point the finger and say im livin wrong? Im sure I will never return to this site again. Sad

I don't think anyone is judging you..lol.. They just saying if u have to be saved to really claim to be a christian

 

[Tommy4Christ]

I pray all you youngsters will take a few moments to read what I am about to say, it could save your souls and the souls of your loved ones! Who told you alls you have to do it just ask Jesus into your heart, or you can continue in sin and still be saved, most of you are in great deception, and most will ignore my warning, but I pray a few of you would at least put down your worldly entertainments, and get serious about your faith!

Believing in Jesus!​

“But in every nation whoever fears HIM and works Righteousness is accepted by Him!” Acts10:35​

Is it enough that we all ‘believe’ in Jesus and are one big happy family? Regardless of doctrine our unity is in Christ and our final destination is the same. That is the mind-set of the vast majority of Professing Christians inside the System. It’s a Universal aspect that includes all faiths and creeds under one umbrella. Although people can still pick and choose their particular flavor of ‘Christianity’ and believe that it’s the best. However if someone has ‘accepted’ Christ they are without question part of the family of God.

Many people in this System appear godly and do many good works. Which makes it very difficult to cast any dispersion on them because their charitable deeds speak volumes in human compassion? But what about the Message? AND the Doctrine behind the message! You can minister to the needy (and feel good doing it) but if they remain Lost in their Sins, what have you done? Certainly it’s easy to ignore the issue of Real Repentance and Faith in favor of sympathy and to ‘believe’ that you have put them on the right path by repeating some words. But the hypocrisy is glaring. Everyone is ‘Saved’ in their Sins and very few even recognize it as a Problem.

Sound Doctrine Must produce a Sound Mind that has DEPARTED from Iniquity. The good Deeds of today are tainted by ‘workers’ of iniquity. YES, they do Many wonderful things in Jesus Name! (Matt7:21-23) But it’s all for naught because the Message has Nothing to do with Rescuing people from the Corrupting influence of Sin. Christ brought us the Doctrine in accord with godliness that produces Purity, Sincerity and Love. (1Tim6:3, 2:5) He Never told Men that ‘No one is Perfect’ or that sin was inevitable because they were all born with a corrupted Nature inherited from Adam. (Men INVENTED that Fallacy!) He instructed us to Obey His Teaching, Follow His example and uphold the Moral Law of God by our Free Will Choice to Stop Sinning and experience the New Birth.

What is Sound Doctrine? Scripture CLEARLY tells us what is Contrary to it. (1Tim1:9-11) The exact Same behavior listed in 1Cor6:9-10 that will Disqualify you from the Kingdom is also listed in the Timothy passage.
Therefore HOW can a Person doing these things be Saved as all the Church Pastors claim? In Truth, they CAN’T.
Sound Doctrine inline with the wholesome Words of Christ teaches godliness and self-control. It Matters What you Believe! These are Not arbitrary guidelines given as suggestions for positive living. They are the Words of LIFE from which you Reap what you Sow. If your Doctrines produce a Complacent attitude in the so-called Converts and a lax understanding of Sin, it will put you on the Wrong Path right from the start. You may have Religion with a ‘form’ of godliness but inside you are full of guile and duplicity groping in the Dark.

The Good Doctrine (1Tim4:6) is followed and obeyed by all True Converts to Christ, without dispute. They give themselves entirely to the promotion and defense of Sound Teaching (1Tim4:15-16) and progress accordingly. Discernment is Sharp and the spirit of error is exposed. Such things as a Moral Transfer of Christ’s Righteousness, Substitution and sin forgiven in advance are far fetched fallacies even when presented as devious Bible Doctrine, laced with Scriptural terminology. True Converts can Pull Down the Stronghold of lies and half truths and bring the Vain imaginations of men into the Light of Truth! (2Cor10:4-5) The Spirit of truth is ALWAYS at odds with the spirit of error. NO ONE with a Good Eye, full of the Light of God can sit silently under the great swelling words of emptiness that promise people Liberty in their sins, and do Nothing to oppose it.

The Teaching of Christ Do Not Support a Collective fellowship over a wide cross section of beliefs. The introduction of the Gospel into the world was exclusive from the Start. Good and Evil were in sharp contrast.
Sound Preaching was always based on the foundation of Repentance and Faith PROVEN by Deeds. You Cannot have an Army of weak kneed, smooth talking sycophants flattering the people with candy coated lies that keep them in bondage to their sin, controlling the Pulpits. God’s armies are fire brands despised by the World and especially the religious Systems perverting the truth. They hate nothing but Sin and Fear no one but GOD!

A Departure of the Sound Doctrine of godliness has been an abject disaster in our society. People are absolutely destitute of the Truth! Following and Serving Christ is Much MORE than merely doing good works while the people ministered to remain mired in their sins. True Salvation is a Renewing of the Mind that occurs through Repentance and Faith PROVEN by Deeds. (Acts26:18) When the fundamental Message of the Gospel is lost in mass deception, Reconciliation to God becomes impossible. What replaces it is a ‘Formula’ method of Salvation that can include anyone who Believes! The Content of that belief is not important, only the belief itself. Therefore Sound Doctrine is up for grabs. The Professed Converts live according to their own imaginations oblivious to heart Purity and Obedience to the Truth. The Word of God suffers every sort of twisting and exploitation by the Smooth talking Preachers who promise Liberty in sin, while they sermonize on a form of godliness.

“Many False Prophets have gone out into the World! This is the spirit of Anti-Christ. The spirit of error” 1Jh4

 

[Jullianna]

No one is judging you, confused. They are worried about you. There is only one way to be saved, through the blood of Jesus Christ. These things are not being told you in judgment, but in love. You are not alone. As Ugly said above, there are many people who believe they are christians just because they go to church or because someone in their family was/is. Many people are deceived. Many very "nice" people are so very...very...lost. It is heartbreaking.

The wonderful news is that it appears that God wants to do an amazing work in your life! He began by speaking to your heart about the evil things the person who wanted you to believe he was your friend was saying. And now the Lord wants you to understand that there is more deception in your life than you know. He is calling to you. He loves you. Please understand that this is not written in judgment, but in a loving desire for you to know the joy we have all found in Christ.

God bless you!

P.S. - If you want to know more about how to be truly saved and how to become a true christian, please feel free to PM me or ask here. I would love to talk and pray with you.

 

[crissy17]

Yeah i agree no one is judging you confused.We all have our struggles and we all need to take into account the fact that we are still sinful and we are going to struggle with our sin. But, if you begin to doubt your salvation because you don't feel saved, then stop trusting your feelings and start trusting God at His word. Ask yourself if you are struggling against your sin. If you aren't, maybe you aren't saved. But, if you are, then that is a sign of life. Ask yourself if you believe in the Trinity, that Jesus is God in flesh, and that He died and rose from the dead. If you do, that is a sign of spiritual renewal. Ask yourself if you believe what Jesus said about Him not faking you out, about Him giving to you the Spirit if you ask. If you do, then that means you are believing Him at His word. Take your eyes off your feelings and failures and put them on Christ, His word, and His sacrifice. Trust in Him and Him alone.... He didn't save you because of your works or your goodness. He did not save you because of what is or is not in you. He saved you because of what is in Him: love and truth.

 

[GOD_IS_LOVE]

I wonder why you say that you are not saved. The Bible says "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9) Maybe you lack a more personal experience with God, but that is there for you if you really want it and ask for it.
As to the situation with that guy, he needs the love of God. God looks beyond people's actions. He looks at their heart. But if you feel offended, better avoid him.

 

[Sweetbird]

Well Jesus loves him. So I'd say the real question now is not weather you did the right thing, but weather or not you want to quit talking to this person as if you have nothing in common anymore and won't miss eachother and don't care if the friendship is over for good. Anyway, if you want to prosteletyze someone you should be friendly just good sales chic I was in telemarketing 13 years I should know.

 

[Ugly]

Trying to witness to someone is not about 'good sales'. That cheapens the gospel into just another marketing technique. Whether.... you agree or not. Also, every response i saw actually was friendly.

Doesn't seem the OP is coming back. Two weeks since they last logged in.

 

[Sweetbird]

wwhos the Op?

 

[Sweetbird]

and good sales only occurs when there is a good product which sells itself. truth!

 

[Sweetbird]

people aren't stupid