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Curtis295

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Was having a discussion with another christian freind the other day. He and his girlfreind, commited a sexual sin before god, having sex before marriage. I should throw this in here that she (his girlfreind) is athiest.

He, however is a christian, he was saved, but has not been following God lately until recently he say's he has felt god tugging on his heart, but wonders if God can forgive him for his sexual sins. As he saw in the bible, as I recal it was galations which said that he who lives in sin will not inherit the kingdom of God.

I rebuted this by looking up these verses in which there is no sin that god will not forgive completly. He has asked for forgiveness, but wonders if God forgives this kind of sin.

Psalms 86:5 "You are forgiving and good, O lord, abounding in love to all who call you."

Romans 8:1-2: "Therefore, there is no condemnation for those who are in christ Jesus, because though christ Jesus the law of the spirit of life sets me from from the law of sin and death."

Not sure if those apply to this situation, I mean he was still saved when he had sex with his girlfreind.

Need some better advice, to help him out. I also wonder if this could be avoided if he dated a christian girlfreind. He has tired bring his current girlfreind to church, and spoke with her about the lord on previous occasions, but she is not open at all about that, and insists on their being no God.
 
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SeekinHIM

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Dear Curtis295,

First of all I think his testimony before GOD and this woman is uh, just a little tainted, and to try to bring her to Church is probably not going to do much for her, it would be better for you to pray for her, that The LORD will lead her to HIMSELF through a woman that was also an atheist but got saved......

Yes these Scriptures apply, but there definately needs to be true repentance, not just an '' I am sorry GOD....'' That won't fly with GOD.....

Pray for him, intercede for him, that GOD would indeed teach him, convict him not to do this anymore, and to TOTALLY GIVE HIS HEART TO GOD........this is TRUE REPENTANCE.......

HE will then sustain him, until he is prepared to marry the one for him.......

SeekinHIM
 
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socperkins

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I believe the verse you are thinking of may be 1 Corinthians 6:9 [ESV] - Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

But, tell your friend to keep reading to verse 11,

... nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

When you accept Jesus into your life God no longer sees your sins because they're covered by the blood of Jesus. His sins will be forgiven but continuing to sin will put a wall between him and God and make it harder to feel His presence.

As far as the girlfriend goes, if he can't convert her he needs to end the relationship. Even if she doesn't overtly try, her unbelief will bring him down.
 
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Mulehide

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David was not called "a man after God's own heart" until after his sin with Bathsheba. Abraham was not known as "a Friend of God" until after is relations with Hagar. If these two renowned men of faith could still be forgiven, then he can be forgiven too. I Peter says God is not a respecter of persons. Also, in I John 1:9, we are told "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness." God does not put levels on sin...we do. As long as he repents and confesses, God promises to forgive and the relationship is restored.
 
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Mulehide

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Also, while he should not date someone who does not have the same faith in God he does, this situation could happen to anyone. The answer is not to change whom one dates but rather to decide to obey God. Daniel purposed in his heart that he would follow God (Dan. 1:8) and thus he was prepared when temptation came. One must decide now to obey the commands of God and to not put oneself in a postition where it is easy to fall...no matter whom one dates.
 
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Curtis295

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socperkins said:
I believe the verse you are thinking of may be 1 Corinthians 6:9 [ESV] - Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

But, tell your friend to keep reading to verse 11,

... nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

When you accept Jesus into your life God no longer sees your sins because they're covered by the blood of Jesus. His sins will be forgiven but continuing to sin will put a wall between him and God and make it harder to feel His presence.

As far as the girlfriend goes, if he can't convert her he needs to end the relationship. Even if she doesn't overtly try, her unbelief will bring him down.
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Thank you for extending that to verse 11! that will help out alot. We shall do alot of praying and keep that verse in mind.
 
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navyairwarrior

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I think you all are a bunch of hypocrites. I almost sounds like you want to blame this atheist girl. I don't know if you know how sex works, but it takes two people to make it happen. Your "christian" friend did the deed as well. So obviously being christian didn't prevent him from wanting to explore his natural urges. And where in the bible does it say sex before marriage is a sin? I know it condemn sexual immorality, but never clearly states "thou shall not have sex before marriage."
 
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MaryR

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Curtis295 said:
Need some better advice, to help him out. I also wonder if this could be avoided if he dated a christian girlfreind.
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Hey Curtis,
Something like that can definitely be avoided by having a Christian girlfriend. Christian girls are less likely to have sex or pressure their boyfriend for sex before getting married simply by way of belief. It's a great way of reducing your risk and temptation because by being with someone who shares your beliefs, you are confirmed in your own and have someone who can hold you accountable for your actions. But it's never a guarantee. There are plenty of Christian girls and guys that have sex and are not married. Something like that doesn't make you not a Christian. If it did, then we'd all be screwed (excuse my terminology). We all sin, we all do things we regret, and we all make mistakes. Even Christians.
 
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Dread_Zeppelin

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navyairwarrior said:
I think you all are a bunch of hypocrites. I almost sounds like you want to blame this atheist girl. I don't know if you know how sex works, but it takes two people to make it happen. Your "christian" friend did the deed as well. So obviously being christian didn't prevent him from wanting to explore his natural urges. And where in the bible does it say sex before marriage is a sin? I know it condemn sexual immorality, but never clearly states "thou shall not have sex before marriage."
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Heres a good website for sex before marriage question: http://bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=256

Also, I'm pretttty sure we know how sex works. God didn't condemn sex because it's just so darn fun! He condemned it before marriage so that we could protect ourselves spiritually. You can knock that if you want but honestly abstaining from sex until marriage is extremely beneficial. Just ask anyone Christian who regrets it.

You're right. The Christian kid was wrong, honestly he should know better much more than his girlfriend. He's probably in a hurting state right now because he compromised.

If you truely believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins- every single one- then guilt of confessed sin no longer plays a part in your life. To still feel guilty about a confessed sin is like saying Jesus died for everyones sin but yours. Which is obviously not true. He forgives the moment you ask. However, that doesn't mean this guy can keep on having sex and asking for forgiveness as an excuse because then he wouldn't have been sincere. Confessing sin is an active change, not a free pass to do what you want. The Lord looks at your heart.

Make sense?
 
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