Fruit and politics

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JTB

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Let me share with you why I believe I'm on the right track here.

When trump supporters speak and act, there is so much anger and hatred and intolerance in their voices and actions. But these are NOT the fruit of the Holy Spirit. They are the fruit of a human or demonic spirit. The Bible DOES say we will know them by their fruit. and the fruit born by trumpsters is not of God.

This is the fruit we want to bear: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control .

And those are CRITICALLY lacking from trump supporters words and actions.

God repeatedly told us His people would be deceived by false prophets and drawn away from His Truth.

And again, we will know them by their fruit.

I don't have to convince anyone here about the Godless, immoral democratic agenda. We are all in agreement on that. It would be preaching to the choir.

What I AM called to do, is to warn that the answer to the godless liberal agenda is NOT the false prophet conservative agenda.

I don't need to convince any of you about Biden

But I DO need to convince many of my brothers and sisters about trump.

The enemy of our enemy is NOT our friend.
 

Artios1

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Thanks... I'll take that into consideration along with the rest of my trash.
 

Gojira

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#3
If we in the US were not experiencing a resurgence of the fascism of the 1930s, I'd laugh at this post. That so many Christians have such twisted moral judgment is stunning to me. And, we are paying the price for that lack of clarity.
 

Godsgirl1983

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I honestly thought this was going to be something like "Do you know what they are doing to our fruit (food) supplies now...."
I was not expecting the topic to be focused around fruits of the Spirit.

one thing about fruit though, you don't just plant the seed today and have the harvest tomorrow.
Just as our physical fruits take time to cultivate and grow, so too do our spiritual fruits.
Just some food for thought.
 

JTB

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If we in the US were not experiencing a resurgence of the fascism of the 1930s, I'd laugh at this post. That so many Christians have such twisted moral judgment is stunning to me. And, we are paying the price for that lack of clarity.
Well lets see....

The Bible says that we are to not seek and horde riches

That we are to treat workers fairly

That we are to help the poor and sick

That were are to welcome the foreigner

That we are to love our enemies

That we are to do good to those who do us evil

That we are to bear the fruit of the Holy Spirit - which are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control



Since you show no evidence of any of these, I would say by Biblical standards it is YOUR moral standards that are stunning and twisted.

And by your measure apparently Jesus was a democrat
 

JTB

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Thanks... I'll take that into consideration along with the rest of my trash.
I'm sorry, but not surprised, that you consider Biblical mores to be trash.
 

JTB

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I honestly thought this was going to be something like "Do you know what they are doing to our fruit (food) supplies now...."
I was not expecting the topic to be focused around fruits of the Spirit.

one thing about fruit though, you don't just plant the seed today and have the harvest tomorrow.
Just as our physical fruits take time to cultivate and grow, so too do our spiritual fruits.
Just some food for thought.
So between the planting and the reaping we are allowed to bear bad fruit? Good to know
 

Artios1

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I'm sorry, but not surprised, that you consider Biblical mores to be trash.
You have wrapped a political view around a biblical scripture, doused with false claims, ignited it with moral indignation and fanned the flame with self-righteousness…………..no thanks!

The only thing worth saving from the flames... is the pure truth

“This is the fruit we want to bear: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control” .
 

maxwel

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Well lets see....

The Bible says that we are to not seek and horde riches

That we are to treat workers fairly

That we are to help the poor and sick

That were are to welcome the foreigner

That we are to love our enemies

That we are to do good to those who do us evil

That we are to bear the fruit of the Holy Spirit - which are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control



Since you show no evidence of any of these, I would say by Biblical standards it is YOUR moral standards that are stunning and twisted.

And by your measure apparently Jesus was a democrat
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These are all STRAW MAN arguments, used by Leftists, to "guilt" Christians with psychological manipulation.


1.) ALL of these twist a bit of scripture, and then misapply it to a fallacious or exaggerated accusation.

2.) These are ALL straw man arguments commonly used by the Leftists, to try and GUILT the Christian into acquiescence through psychological manipulation.



CONCLUSION:
1.) This is ALL, every single bit, based in nonsensical but confusing Straw Man Arguments created for Psychological Manipulation.
2.) If necessary, I can lay out all of the psychology, and all of the specific tactics, and all of the scripture twisting... and take it all apart.
3.) It seems like a waste of time to do all the analysis, unless anyone here needs it, or feels it will be helpful.
- You guys can let me know


God Bless.

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JTB

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To deceive the elect.jpg

And again, we will know these by their fruit.

This is the fruit we want to bear: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control

I don't hear ANY of that in the voices of dissent.

Just anger, hatred, intolerance.


If this thread makes you angry, you are one of those it is talking about.

And THAT is no straw man.
 

Eli1

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These are all STRAW MAN arguments, used by Leftists, to "guilt" Christians with psychological manipulation.


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I agree with this.
‘This is a tactic which also many Christians do to “guilt” others into some sort of state which involves the preacher having control of a crowd.

But I initially thought that this topic was related to actual food.
 

tourist

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I honestly thought this was going to be something like "Do you know what they are doing to our fruit (food) supplies now...."
I was not expecting the topic to be focused around fruits of the Spirit.

one thing about fruit though, you don't just plant the seed today and have the harvest tomorrow.
Just as our physical fruits take time to cultivate and grow, so too do our spiritual fruits.
Just some food for thought.
Nourishing food at that.
 

Gojira

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You have wrapped a political view around a biblical scripture, doused with false claims, ignited it with moral indignation and fanned the flame with self-righteousness…………..no thanks!

The only thing worth saving from the flames... is the pure truth

“This is the fruit we want to bear: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control” .
No no... JTB is the enlightened prophet we all need here, called to call us away from our perversion and warped thinking. Tell yourself that with every post he blesses us with. And try not to laugh when you do.
 

tourist

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No no... JTB is the enlightened prophet we all need here, called to call us away from our perversion and warped thinking. Tell yourself that with every post he blesses us with. And try not to laugh when you do.
I'm suppressing a chuckle at the moment. Got my share of perversions and my thinking might be somewhat warped too. Definitely in need of enlightenment.
 

Gojira

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I'm suppressing a chuckle at the moment. Got my share of perversions and my thinking might be somewhat warped too. Definitely in need of enlightenment.
Then may the JTB -- dare I speak his name? -- blesseth thee.
 

SomeDisciple

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Not a very good conspiracy theory, considering it's just your own quotes from another thread...

Don't you have any more good sources, like those lesbian pastors that hate patriotism, or some fake foreign author's book about Trump worship?
 

JTB

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No no... JTB is the enlightened prophet we all need here, called to call us away from our perversion and warped thinking. Tell yourself that with every post he blesses us with. And try not to laugh when you do.
Still no fruit here.

Tell me which part of your post contains love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control

We will know them by their fruit.

And yours is more rotten than mine
 

Dude653

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I got some Trump NFTs for sale if anyone's interested,