This is the Antichrist

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EarsToHear

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The antichrist (instead of Christ in the Greek) will be Satan, playing that role. He has many names and titles. He will be booted from heaven to earth at the 6th seal, 6th trumpet. 6th vial (666).
 

Ahwatukee

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The antichrist (instead of Christ in the Greek) will be Satan, playing that role. He has many names and titles. He will be booted from heaven to earth at the 6th seal, 6th trumpet. 6th vial (666).
Hello EarsToHear,

Regarding these things, we must stay within scripture, therefore, the antichrist/beast cannot be Satan, for when Christ returns to the earth in Rev.19:11-21, the beast/antichrist and the false prophet are both thrown alive into the lake of fire, where Satan is thrown into the Abyss. The individual destinations of both would demonstrate that the antichrist/beast and Satan are two different entities. The other example is that, scripture states that Satan will give the beast his power, throne and great authority, which also demonstrates that if Satan is giving these things to the antichrist/beast, then they cannot be the same entity.

Also, the war in heaven does not take place at the 6th seal, but at the 7th trumpet. In fact, Satan and his angels being cast to the earth is the 7th trumpet, 3rd woe.
 

EarsToHear

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Hello EarsToHear,

Regarding these things, we must stay within scripture, therefore, the antichrist/beast cannot be Satan, for when Christ returns to the earth in Rev.19:11-21, the beast/antichrist and the false prophet are both thrown alive into the lake of fire, where Satan is thrown into the Abyss. The individual destinations of both would demonstrate that the antichrist/beast and Satan are two different entities. The other example is that, scripture states that Satan will give the beast his power, throne and great authority, which also demonstrates that if Satan is giving these things to the antichrist/beast, then they cannot be the same entity.

Also, the war in heaven does not take place at the 6th seal, but at the 7th trumpet. In fact, Satan and his angels being cast to the earth is the 7th trumpet, 3rd woe.
Christ returns at the 7th trump. I suggest you dig a little deeper.

If you're not sealed by God, you will be sealed (mark of the beast) by Satan. He's coming to test you to see how well you understand God's Word.
 

Ahwatukee

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Christ returns at the 7th trump. I suggest you dig a little deeper.

If you're not sealed by God, you will be sealed (mark of the beast) by Satan. He's coming to test you to see how well you understand God's Word.
If you are going to quote me, please be accurate. I did not say that Christ returns at the 7th trumpet. I said that the war in heaven where Satan and his angels are cast down to the earth takes place at the 7th trumpet, which is the 3rd woe. Furthermore, those who are in Christ will not be here for the mark of the beast, but the great tribulation saints will. Jesus himself demonstrates that he will not return to the earth to end the age until after the 7th bowl has been poured out.
 

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If you are going to quote me, please be accurate. I did not say that Christ returns at the 7th trumpet. I said that the war in heaven where Satan and his angels are cast down to the earth takes place at the 7th trumpet, which is the 3rd woe. Furthermore, those who are in Christ will not be here for the mark of the beast, but the great tribulation saints will. Jesus himself demonstrates that he will not return to the earth to end the age until after the 7th bowl has been poured out.
Proverbs 3:35 The wise shall inherit glory: but shame shall be the promotion of fools.


"Grace" is God's Riches At Christ's Expense, it is our inheritance, to live and reign with Him. It is God's promise to each of us; however, it is not offered to fools. So who are fools? Remember from verse Proverbs 1:7; "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: But fools despise wisdom and instruction."
 

Ahwatukee

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Proverbs 3:35 The wise shall inherit glory: but shame shall be the promotion of fools.


"Grace" is God's Riches At Christ's Expense, it is our inheritance, to live and reign with Him. It is God's promise to each of us; however, it is not offered to fools. So who are fools? Remember from verse Proverbs 1:7; "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: But fools despise wisdom and instruction."
Yes, I am familiar with those scriptures, but what does that have to do with the timing of when Satan and his angels being cast to the earth and the return of Christ to end the age?
 

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Yes, I am familiar with those scriptures, but what does that have to do with the timing of when Satan and his angels being cast to the earth and the return of Christ to end the age?
Christ returns at the 7th seal, 7th trump, 7th vial. Satan comes at the 6th seal, 6th trump, 6th vial. That's why his number is 666. In other words, 6 comes before 7, so it has much to do with the timing.
 

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The Antichrist will not be a president, he will be a religious leader who has worldwide influence. That would be a pope
 

Ahwatukee

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Christ returns at the 7th seal, 7th trump, 7th vial. Satan comes at the 6th seal, 6th trump, 6th vial. That's why his number is 666. In other words, 6 comes before 7, so it has much to do with the timing.
That would be pretty difficult for Christ to return at all three of those plagues of wrath and because the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are all in chronological order. We know that Jesus does not return until after the 7th bowl because of the following:

"Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed"

After the 6th bowl has been poured out, Jesus interjects the verse above, which demonstrates that he will have not yet returned until after the 7th bowl judgment, which is the event described in Rev.19:11-21. Furthermore, there is nowhere in the context of the 7th seal or the 7th trumpet that states that Christ returns at any of those times. Jesus will not return to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom until after God's wrath has been completed, which is represented by the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, the bowls being last.

666 has only to do with the mark of the beast, that without it, no one will be able to buy or sell. The system for the mark of the beast is already here and people use that system every day without even realizing it, which is the electronic crediting and debiting system. Currently, people are able to make purchases via the swiping of cards or by phone app. As time goes on the world will continue to move towards a cashless society, utilizing electronic crediting and debiting. Once the antichrist comes, cash, checks, magnetic cards and phone apps will be replaced with that sub-dermal device under the skin of the hand or forehead (the mark), which will allow a person to continue to electronically credit and debit (buy or sell) their bank accounts. Regarding this sub-dermal device, it is already being used by businesses in Sweden. So the technology for that coming mark is already here.
 

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That would be pretty difficult for Christ to return at all three of those plagues of wrath and because the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are all in chronological order. We know that Jesus does not return until after the 7th bowl because of the following:

"Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed"

After the 6th bowl has been poured out, Jesus interjects the verse above, which demonstrates that he will have not yet returned until after the 7th bowl judgment, which is the event described in Rev.19:11-21. Furthermore, there is nowhere in the context of the 7th seal or the 7th trumpet that states that Christ returns at any of those times. Jesus will not return to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom until after God's wrath has been completed, which is represented by the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, the bowls being last.

666 has only to do with the mark of the beast, that without it, no one will be able to buy or sell. The system for the mark of the beast is already here and people use that system every day without even realizing it, which is the electronic crediting and debiting system. Currently, people are able to make purchases via the swiping of cards or by phone app. As time goes on the world will continue to move towards a cashless society, utilizing electronic crediting and debiting. Once the antichrist comes, cash, checks, magnetic cards and phone apps will be replaced with that sub-dermal device under the skin of the hand or forehead (the mark), which will allow a person to continue to electronically credit and debit (buy or sell) their bank accounts. Regarding this sub-dermal device, it is already being used by businesses in Sweden. So the technology for that coming mark is already here.

  1. Seals = knowledge from God’s Word you need to be sealed in your mind.
  2. Trumpets = the action taken place.
  3. Viles = God’s wrath poured out.
 
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the 6th trump
Donald Trump
sorry I'm bored
 

Ahwatukee

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  1. Seals = knowledge from God’s Word you need to be sealed in your mind.
  2. Trumpets = the action taken place.
  3. Viles = God’s wrath poured out.
1. Seals = Wrath of God: Jesus is the One initiating these seals of wrath, as He is the One opening them. A fourth of the earth's immediate population is killed as a result, which based on 7 billion would be approximately 1.7 billion fatalities as a result of the first four seals.

2. Trumpets = Wrath of God: at the 6th seal a third of the inhabitants of the earth are killed. With just the 4th seal and the 6th trumpet alone would equal 4.4 billion fatalities and that does not include trumpets 1 thru 3 nor does it include the bowl judgments.

3. Bowls = Wrath of God: The bowls complete God's wrath as they are the last set of plagues of wrath which take place just before Jesus returns to end the age (Rev.15:1-2).

The announcements of God's wrath appear in each set of seven judgments of wrath, as can be seen below:

6th Seal
"They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” (Rev.6:16)

7Th Trumpet
"We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—and for destroying those who estroy the earth. (Rev.16"18)

Seven Bowls
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I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven last plagues—last, because with them God’s wrath is completed. " (Rev.15:1-2)

Since the seven bowls as a unit are referred to as being last completing God's wrath, then there would have to be wrath that takes place before them, for you can't have last without having what comes first. The seals, trumpets and bowls are all considered to be the wrath of God. Regarding these, Jesus said that it would be a time of great distress such as the world has not seen from the beginning of creation, until now and never to be equaled again. And if those days had not been shortened, no one would be left alive on the earth.
 
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EarsToHear

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1. Seals = Wrath of God: Jesus is the One initiating these seals of wrath, as He is the One opening them. A fourth of the earth's immediate population is killed as a result, which based on 7 billion would be approximately 1.7 billion fatalities as a result of the first four seals.

2. Trumpets = Wrath of God: at the 6th seal a third of the inhabitants of the earth are killed. With just the 4th seal and the 6th trumpet alone would equal 4.4 billion fatalities and that does not include trumpets 1 thru 3 nor does it include the bowl judgments.

3. Bowls = Wrath of God: The bowls complete God's wrath as they are the last set of plagues of wrath which take place just before Jesus returns to end the age (Rev.15:1-2).

The announcements of God's wrath appear in each set of seven judgments of wrath, as can be seen below:

6th Seal
"They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” (Rev.6:16)

7Th Trumpet
"We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—and for destroying those who estroy the earth. (Rev.16"18)

Seven Bowls
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I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven last plagues—last, because with them God’s wrath is completed. " (Rev.15:1-2)

Since the seven bowls as a unit are referred to as being last completing God's wrath, then there would have to be wrath that takes place before them, for you can't have last without having what comes first. The seals, trumpets and bowls are all considered to be the wrath of God. Regarding these, Jesus said that it would be a time of great distress such as the world has not seen from the beginning of creation, until now and never to be equaled again. And if those days had not been shortened, no one would be left alive on the earth.
You, of course, are free to think as you will. However, always make sure that what you say aligns with His Word. This is especially true if you set yourself up as a teacher of His Word. Then, you’ll not only pay for your own sins, you’ll also answer for all of those who you’ve mislead.


Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this prophetic book, God will take away his share of the tree of life and the holy city, written in this book.


Satan’s MO is to twist Scripture. After all, how did he try to tempt Christ in the wilderness? Therefore, always beware of the babbling, upside-down folks. They try to turn right into wrong and wrong into right. They're here to help their father, Satan, spread his flood of lies.


Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
 

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1 John 2:18 "as you have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there MANY antichrists, whereby we know it is the last time"

1 John 4:3 "and this is that spirit of antichrist, wherein you heard that it should come and even now is it already in the world"

Anti Christ is anyone who is against Christ and is not one single individual. Is Trump the antichrist................NO


I heard that Clinton (Bill) was the antichrist. And Hillary too. Now its Trump...........Who's next.......The Pope
LOL To single out one person to be labeled the Antichrist always falls short.

For many deceivers are entered into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an Antichrist..........................2nd John 7

Walk in the LOVE of God, be not deceived and love all men but especially the brethern
 

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Well, I was trying to give you the benefit of extensive, life-long studies regarding end-time events, but it seems as though you have done what so many are doing in these last days and that is adopting a false teaching and then fighting tooth and nail to protect it, while ignoring the proof that is being given to you. I think that you had better take your own advise and pay particular attention to Rev.22:18-19. I have more detailed proof that the seals, trumpets and bowl are in chronological order, but it seems as though you are bent on the false teachings that you have adopted and so I will not bother, since you cannot even make an honest assessment of scriptures that I have already given. And before you say that you have, I will simply tell you to go back and read those scriptures that demonstrate that each set of seven plagues are mentioned as being wrath, which by the way, you didn't comment on, but circumvented them by saying "You, of course, are free to think as you will," which is just a cop-out.
 
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Well, I was trying to give you the benefit of extensive, life-long studies regarding end-time events, but it seems as though you have done what so many are doing in these last days and that is adopting a false teaching and then fighting tooth and nail to protect it, while ignoring the proof that is being given to you. I think that you had better take your own advise and pay particular attention to Rev.22:18-19. I have more detailed proof that the seals, trumpets and bowl are in chronological order, but it seems as though you are bent on the false teachings that you have adopted and so I will not bother, since you cannot even make an honest assessment of scriptures that I have already given. And before you say that you have, I will simply tell you to go back and read those scriptures that demonstrate that each set of seven plagues are mentioned as being wrath, which by the way, you didn't comment on, but circumvented them by saying "You, of course, are free to think as you will," which is just a cop-out.
Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with what the Word says.

Our Heavenly Father laughs when He watches down on all the ignorance that is going on under the name of education, politics, and religion today. God will take their extensive plans and mix them up to where there is nothing but confusion.


There is a day coming when God is going to set his almighty King on Mt. Zion, and there will be no other government. This happens at the coming of our Lord at the seventh trumpet. There will be no other government or congress playing around with the wicked and taking God out of government.


Our Lord Jesus Christ came that first time as a baby lying in the manger. He came in that first advent for one purpose, to die on the cross for the sins of all those that would confess that Jesus is Lord, and repent of their sins. God gave that one love offering for one and all time so that our sins could be forgiven, because the law within itself could not. The King has been crowned and the way is set. The King is coming to take his rightful place on the mount of Olives. Freedom shall reign, and God will be upon His throne. God has declared it.
 
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If you take all that is said in the Bible of the antichrist, or the beast, the man of sin, the prince that shall some, the worthless shepherd, some names that come to mind, and take all the verses pertaining to the nature of Satan, what you get is a leader that is like a more subtle, polished and more demonically powerful Hitler, but Hitler had some eerily similar qualities, seems to fit a lot, at least of anybody in recent memory.

More importantly, though, has anybody come to care less and less who or what the antichrist is? Those of us pre-millennial, with a pre-tribulation rapture perspective, are waiting for the appearing of the Lord Jesus, the blessed hope. The antichrist really isn't a substantial issue to my faith, and I think people obsess over this character way too much. I believe scripture about him is mainly for those living in the time of Jacob's trouble. I really could hardly care less who he is, pray to never see him revealed. Would suggest it's something we should all do, are commanded to do, to be more caring of being watchful and sober Christians, being ready to meet the Lord Jesus.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
 

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ANTICHRIST EVIDENCE
BTW, You need to click on the links 1 by 1 and read at least the first few sentences where the link leads you in order to understand fully.
8/10/15 - I had a feeling and wrote many posts on FB telling people that Trump would eventually win presidency UNOPPOSED.
8/15/15 – Prediction 1 – Trump’s position in the polls gets so big next week that the media finally starts saying that Trump might be unbeatable in national election and of course primaries.
8/16/15 – After posting about the Muslim Brotherhood’s 100 year war, I got the feeling that TRUMP might be the antichrist not Obama as most people that I know believe.
8/17/2015 – Prediction 2 - Trump will become so popular that Obama will have to leave office early like Nixon. Either voluntarily or forcibly.
8/17/2015 - Prediction 3 - America has to make a decision whether or not to invade Iraq, Syria, etc.. The problem will be that nobody knows whether or not Iran has nuclear weapons already. If mass invasion happens, Iran may let nukes go and.....................................you can finish this
8/17/15 - Prediction 4 - I forgot about this one. Should probably be number 1.5 or two.
Anyways, this is the end of the two party system in America. Maybe beyond. No more Democrat vs. Republican crap. Sounds great but keep ears clean. Have to listen and hear.

8/18/15 – This link shows you the meaning of DONALD =Donald - Meaning Of Donald, What Does Donald Mean?
8/18/15 – This link shows you how he will be the Ruler of the World and that most people wont even know they are being duped. Sad part. =http://www.bibletools.org/…/3…/Satan-as-ruler-this-world.htm
8/18/15 – This is copy and pasted from somewhere. It shows you who the Antichrist is and what he’ll do.
V. WHO IS THE ANTICHRIST?—PART III
A. The Antichrist’s personality is fundamentally
opposed to Christ’s.
1.The Antichrist will exalt himself.
2.He will say great things, but he will not speak
the truth.
3.He will be very experienced in commerce and
making money
—Psalms 52:7. IX.THE GENIUS OF THE ANTICHRIST
A.The world will accept the Antichrist because he
will be a genius in seven areas.
1.Seven is the number of completion: the
Antichrist will be completely evil.
B.Intellectual genius—Ezekiel 28:3; Daniel 8:23
C.Oratorical genius—Daniel 7:20
1.Revelation 13:2 says the Antichrist will have a
mouth like a lion, which is considered the
“king” of the animals.
D.Political genius—Daniel 11:21;
Revelation 13:1,2; 17:17
E.Commercial genius—Psalms 52:7; Ezekiel 28:4,5;
Daniel 8:25; 11:38,43; Revelation 13:17
1.The world is looking for someone to feed it
(currently 60 percent of the world’s
population goes to bed hungry).
2.People are looking for an answer to the world’s
poor economy. The Antichrist will get
people jobs.
3.His positive changes put him in control of most
of the world’s economy, so he makes people
wear his mark before they can buy or sell anything.
F.Military genius—Isaiah 14:16,17; Daniel 8:24;
Revelation 6:2; 13:4
G.Governmental genius
1.He will weld together opposing forces and unite
conflicting countries.
2.He will create an empire out of the former
Roman, Greek, Medo-Persian, and Babylonian
empires (which currently cover Europe,
the Middle East, northern Africa, and parts of
Asia and the former Soviet Union).
H.Religious genius—II Thessalonians 2:4;
Revelation 13:3,14,15
1.As the son of Satan he will have the same
command of the Scriptures and be able to
pervert them for his own gain, just as Satan
did with Jesus in the wilderness
(compare Psalms 91:11,12 with Matthew 4:6).

8/18/15 – I’m not exactly sure what this says cuz I haven’t read it yet but the headline says something. I mean if you put the meaning of DONALD together with The 6th TRUMP…….what do you get? Might want to mute your speakers before you click this one.
http://www.thehiddenword.com/6thTrump.html

8/19/15 – If you want to hear some of my explanations about this stuff……..read the comments in my FB post =Yeah he’ll be president and then some. It’s the post with the link…..BabyNAMER something.
8/19/15 - Listen, I am NOT freaked out about this stuff, but if its true, I feel I needed to at least let people know about it. This is not stuff that I TRIED to put together. These are things that I used to ask my late brother about (because he was smart and studied the Bible) and I am remembering what he had told me. I think of something he had said, Google it, and these are the result.
I had nothing against TRUMP and as most people here know I was posting stuff FOR him for days until...........I posted about the Muslim Brotherhoods 100 year war plan and people started telling me yes, that's why Obama is the Antichrist. Obama being the Antichrist didn't make any sense to me because it didn't fit what my late brother Bob had told me. But it sure fit TRUMP. I did some searches and put together the above in about an hour. I REALLY don't think anyone else could have put 2 and 2 together like this that fast unless they had the memories of what my brother had said.
As a matter of fact I HOPE this is wrong cuz TRUMP is going to do great things for this country......I just don't think it's wrong.
Oh, and there is A LOT more than this that I could post. I just put up these because to me......it made it so obvious.
What do you think?
HMMM, ya know, prediction 4 might not be that far off. A prediction made back in August, and it's sort of a near miss, but the election isn't over yet. Would a 3 party system be allowed in that prediction?
 

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Unless Mr. Trump receives a fatal wound and survives it, confirms a seven year covenant with Israel and sets up the abomination in the holy place within the temple 3 1/2 years later, the above information is subjective.
 

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Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.


"Those days" are the days of this tribulation. If God did not shorten the time and reign of the Antichrist, no man in the flesh body would be spiritually saved, and not deceived by Satan the Antichrist. Daniel told us in Daniel 9:27 that this time of the Antichrist, the desolator, was one-half of one week of years. That is one-half of seven years, and it has been shortened to five [5] months.


Revelation 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.


God lets us know not only that it will be five months, but that it will be specific five months. It will be the five months of the locust. May through September.


When someone tells you that you will fly out of here, and not be on the earth where this happens, they just show you their stupidity and lack of the knowledge of God's Word. See them for what they are, they are preparing you for the onslaught of the locust army of fallen angels, and Kenite teaching. Do you take their word over the Word of Almighty God?


Ephesians 6 tells us the purpose that God's elect will be on earth, and it will be to fight against Satan, and those wicked spiritual powers. That is why you need the spiritual armor on and in place, for the warfare will be a spiritual battle, fought will words and ideas, it will be fought with the very word of God, for Satan will twist that Word, to make it a lie, when he and his forces use it against you.