WWE Riot

[Drett]

Emperor Augustus to keep the plebes happy and reasonably fed so they would not riot began the system of state bribery that the writer Juvenal described as ‘bread and circuses’

Free grain and controlled food prices meant that plebeians could not starve, while free entertainment – such as chariot races and gladiators in amphitheaters and the Circus Maximus – meant that they would not get bored and restless. Bribery it may have been, but it often worked.

A tactic that is used today.

We have GMO insects being released in Florida. Monsanto agrochemicals found to cause genetic damage in soybean workers. Cancer chemicals found in Yellowstone river contains cancer chemical after oil spill. What are people outraged with ? Apparently it is the scripted result of the WWE Royal rumble.

WWE Royal Rumble 2015 Review: Fan's Experience from Inside Wells Fargo Center | Bleacher Report

 

[Nautilus]

A lot of people felt jipped that their favorite never really got a fair run with the title.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

I stopped watching WWE a loooong time ago. I have better things to do with my time than to watch these overgrown bullies with their bad acting/attitudes…

 

[chri5tdrumm3r]

Wow! I will say that I'm surprised to this has been posted here. And, by responding in the way that I will, I am putting myself out there as an avid watcher of the WWE product. You might even say I'm a fan. So, because of that, here is my take on why everyone is upset:

Warning: Wrestling nerd chatter to follow.

First off: Yes, I am fully aware of the fact that everything in the WWE is scripted. Things are predetermined and matches/events are planned out months in advance. Now, as far as people being upset that their favorite person - in this case, Daniel Bryan - not winning, is due to the fact that, about 12-16 months ago, their was a furious fan push to seen Bryan be the "top guy". Originally, a wrestler - Batista - was brought back into the WWE after a two-year hiatus, and instantly given the spot as their next Champion. However, the fans voiced their displeausre with this, with the thinking that Batista had been gone for so long, and they were just going to give him the belt to help promote the movie he was in over the summer. So, with the backlsh, this resulted in Bryan getting the "push" of overcoming insurmontable odds to eventually become their Champion. So, naturally, the fans got what they wanted and everyone was happy.

But, Bryan got hurt and had legitmate surgery, thus focing the WWE to strip of him the belt. Ever since that point, the fans have been hoping/wanting Bryan to return and go back to the spot he was at before he got injured. Yet, over that time, the WWE had been building up - or trying to - the character of "Roman Reigns". Reigns was legitmately out of action for a month with an appendix/hernia surgery last Fall, but was still getting praised by the company. When he returned in December, Reigns was instantly put back into the spot he had been in, further angering Daniel Bryan fans. Since his return, fans have seen that Reigns is not "ready" to be the "top guy" in the company, which is the plan, long-term, for the WWE. Mostly, is has to do with the McMahons (who own the WWE) wanting a big, muscular athlete to be the face of the company, whether or not the talent is there to back it up. Having Reigns win Sunday night had been a foregone conclusion for months (at least to me). Because of that, the fans feel that someone who has the talent, and the fanbase, to be the top guy is being overlooked for someone who the McMahons want in that spot instead.

So, the fans rioted/booed/complained and even went as far as threatening to cancel their memberships with the WWE Network. For me, personally - as someone who has had a VERY brief taste of professional wrestling (albeit it not with the WWE) - I don't like the decision, but I understand it. I do think the decision will backfire on those who made it, when their realize that Reigns is no longer connecting with the audience. But, with this being all planned out in the beginning, and nothing's final until they actually finish their respective matches, things can change very quickly. I do think some people are overreacting, but it is their decision to make.

I hope this isn't too long, and that it's easy to read. I tried to explain it, as easily as I could, from a fan's perspective.

 

[Nautilus]

Daniel Bryan was never supposed to be in the WM 30 main event. But WWE executives/creative caved as to not ruin their ppv. He got his shot and won the title. To be fair cheers actually died down for him on raw after he was champion in my opinion. But then regardless he went and got himself injured for seven months. I don't want a re-hash of WM 30. I don't want WWE to shove some idiotic David and Goliath story down my throat because even the concept of Bryan beating Lesnar is ridiculous, scripted or not. For once McMahon was smart and said we aren't doing what we did last year. Bryan isn't a guy to carry the company as its face. Sure he is a great wrestler and popular, but he won't ever be the next Hulk, Stone Cold, or Cena.

 

[chri5tdrumm3r]

There's never going to be another Hulk, Rock, Stone Cold. They've been attempting to make Cena the "new Hogan" for years, even going as far as giving him the red/yellow color scheme. They're going to try to make Reigns the "new Rock". They even brought out The Rock to help get Reigns over on Sunday night, and it didn't work. I understand where Vince is coming from, not wanting to redo WM 30. But, it's clear that, as of right now, no one is behind Reigns. Even if he is the next face of the company, he's only an assest if he can bring in the merchandise money. He's nowhere near that point yet. They just need someone who's "believable" to beat Lesnar for the belt, since he'll most likely be going back to the UFC after WM 31.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

I read that whole report and saw nothing about a riot?

But haha WWE has gotten pretty lame with its writing, yeah. Am shocked John Cena didnt win again

Didnt know DDP was in WWE though? Was it a one time only kinda thing? Haha would anyone here even know?


I will say though, our world does put way too much focus on earthly things such as pro wrestling. It does have the danger of pulling you away from God.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

And the only thing that could make Cena interesting now is making him go heel. For some reason WWE wont do that.

Is normal for WWE though Instead of going new directions with Hulk, they fired him, leaving him for WCW to turn him into Hollywood, and taking massive ratings from WWE.

But yeah Cena is the current "take your vitamins" kiddy hero, which means we are getting close to another go at vulgar and obscene wrestling to get back all them veiwers who are bored of WWE pushing Cena down their throats

(This is why we needed WCW :/)

 

[chri5tdrumm3r]

And the only thing that could make Cena interesting now is making him go heel. For some reason WWE wont do that.

Is normal for WWE though Instead of going new directions with Hulk, they fired him, leaving him for WCW to turn him into Hollywood, and taking massive ratings from WWE.

But yeah Cena is the current "take your vitamins" kiddy hero, which means we are getting close to another go at vulgar and obscene wrestling to get back all them veiwers who are bored of WWE pushing Cena down their throats

(This is why we needed WCW :/)

1st/2nd points: agree 100%

3rd: They've certainly teased it enough times, to draw fan attention. However, it became stale very quickly, and now you're left 'Let's Go Cena/Cena s**ks' chants every night. They won't turn Cena heel because he rakes in millions of dollars for the company, and because he's the face of all their charity work with kids. They don't want to lose the kids whose parents buy all the Cena gear. But, Cena is getting up their in age, and should be winding down over the next few years. Thus, the bring in Reigns to change things up. It's a long shot, but if they decided to go back to a TV-14 type program, it really would be in the company's best interest to turn Cena heel. Because, at this point, he's similiar to Hogan... and the complete opposite of Stone Cold back in the "Attitude Era". Whereas Austin was supposed to be a bad guy yet everyone loved him, Cena is the good guy that everyone hates. I think, because of that, they will not turn him. It gets more people to buy their events, just to see if he loses.

4th: We have WCW still. It's just called TNA now. Horrible booking, using casted-off former WWE stars, and completely disregarding talented homegrown talent on their roster. It won't be long before WWE has no competition... if you can call TNA that today.

 

[Nautilus]

To be fair they wouldn't have to be obscene or vulgar to hit the tv-14 rating people want just more violent and grittier. I can honestly do without the sex jokes and whatnot from the attitude era.

Truth be told though over the past year nXt has been putting out a consistently better weekly show and consistently better payperviews. Its solely run by Triple H so maybe there is hope if McMahon ever retires.

 

[chri5tdrumm3r]

To be fair they wouldn't have to be obscene or vulgar to hit the tv-14 rating people want just more violent and grittier. I can honestly do without the sex jokes and whatnot from the attitude era.

Truth be told though over the past year nXt has been putting out a consistently better weekly show and consistently better payperviews. Its solely run by Triple H so maybe there is hope if McMahon ever retires.

I agree with them not needing the obscene/vulgar talking. I think they are slowly getting closer to the more violent matches. That is what they will need to draw in people after everyone gets bored with what they're doing; especially as their younger fans get older.

And, I truly agree that Triple H would be better in charge of the main product, because he's a little more concerned with the in-ring product. However, being associated with the McMahon family (and a part of it), he still has his ego and that will lead to what could be a lot of good ideas being shot down.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Well I watched a behind the scenes show about WWE, and Triple H said in the interview how upset and disappointed he is with his hands being tied. He has wanted to make a lot of changes he said in the interview, but every time he tried to go a certain way Vince McMahon overrode him. So until McMahon hands full control over, we will not see any improvements in WWE.
Yes WCW does need to come back, which it won't, but as for TNA they do not travel all over to do shows and they are just as ridiculous as WWE is right now. Sorry but one thing I dislike about WWE is having a champion like Brock Lesner who only has to show up every great once in awhile. To me the champion should be present every week.

 

[chri5tdrumm3r]

Bringing in Brock was just about two things: having someone beat The Undertaker's streak, and giving him the belt. Bringing back a former UFC Champion, and showing that he can come back and dominate made people want to watch.

 

[Drett]

Oh well back to bread and circuses I guess

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Oh well back to bread and circuses I guess

i guess everyone here is paid by the government...

 

[Risetobesetfree]

It's such a stale product now, and to tell you the truth I'm very happy that they reacted that way. It gives the WWE more reason to try harder, and book better. I want TV-MA or TV-14 back, but it'll probably never happen considering the sponsorships, unless they keep losing ratings to the point where they'll need a better product to rebuild what's currently being destroyed.

 

[Nautilus]

I agree with them not needing the obscene/vulgar talking. I think they are slowly getting closer to the more violent matches. That is what they will need to draw in people after everyone gets bored with what they're doing; especially as their younger fans get older.

And, I truly agree that Triple H would be better in charge of the main product, because he's a little more concerned with the in-ring product. However, being associated with the McMahon family (and a part of it), he still has his ego and that will lead to what could be a lot of good ideas being shot down.

Honestly the most recent nXt ppv had a single creative writer and HHH planning it and it rivals any of the best wwe ppv's from the past year even wrestlemania. I think most of the problem is Vince.

Well I watched a behind the scenes show about WWE, and Triple H said in the interview how upset and disappointed he is with his hands being tied. He has wanted to make a lot of changes he said in the interview, but every time he tried to go a certain way Vince McMahon overrode him. So until McMahon hands full control over, we will not see any improvements in WWE.
Yes WCW does need to come back, which it won't, but as for TNA they do not travel all over to do shows and they are just as ridiculous as WWE is right now. Sorry but one thing I dislike about WWE is having a champion like Brock Lesner who only has to show up every great once in awhile. To me the champion should be present every week.

You can tell HHH's hands are being tied by the difference between tag teams and divas in nXt and WWE. TNA had its shot when they had AJ Styles as it's face about 3 years ago and the product was actually good. Dixie Carter is running that into the ground trying to beat WWE by copying it instead of doing their own thing. If ROH could get funding then they might be the best company to challenge WWE. Heck, most of the great wrestlers in nXt are from either nXT or have experience in njpw.

 

[wisebeardman]

E C Dub E C Dub E C Dub

 

[ThomistColin]

The great days of wrestling ended when ECW folded. Now, ECW was crazy and dangerous stuff, but they forced WCW and WWF to change, and I think for the better. But when ECW folded the Old ways started to crawl back in. Suddenly pile drivers are banned, and we're back to the "amazing elbows" and "suplexes" being the center point of Professional Wrestling. The day Professional Wrestling died for me is when Undertaker's streak ended. That was it. I was done. The end of the great era, which stayed too long and became sad and old. The Undertaker will always be my favorite wrestler, because his backstage real persona was one of kindness, service, and the realization that we, the fans, can see when it isn't being done to the fullest.

I've always been a WWF fan. However, there is no greater return than Sandman in ECW. Not because of the story, or even Sandman (I really really dislike the guy in and out of the ring). But because of the fans. Watch their reaction...that's what it was always about...the fans. (Mick understood that, Mark understood that, Shane understood that, the Dudleys understood, and so did Heyman. The rest...I think have forgotten.)

 

[wisebeardman]

The great days of wrestling ended when ECW folded. Now, ECW was crazy and dangerous stuff, but they forced WCW and WWF to change, and I think for the better. But when ECW folded the Old ways started to crawl back in. Suddenly pile drivers are banned, and we're back to the "amazing elbows" and "suplexes" being the center point of Professional Wrestling. The day Professional Wrestling died for me is when Undertaker's streak ended. That was it. I was done. The end of the great era, which stayed too long and became sad and old. The Undertaker will always be my favorite wrestler, because his backstage real persona was one of kindness, service, and the realization that we, the fans, can see when it isn't being done to the fullest.

I've always been a WWF fan. However, there is no greater return than Sandman in ECW. Not because of the story, or even Sandman (I really really dislike the guy in and out of the ring). But because of the fans. Watch their reaction...that's what it was always about...the fans. (Mick understood that, Mark understood that, Shane understood that, the Dudleys understood, and so did Heyman. The rest...I think have forgotten.)

ECW was the top. and they did force WWF/E and WCW to change. ECW was also the 1st victim of the monday night wars.

truth be told best thing WWE had going in the last few years was CM Punk and what he did in his final few years in WWE other then that the product is stale. or as ECW fans would say "BORING! BORING! BORING!"

It is amusing when WWE makes its way back to ECDub territory, and you start hearing all the old chants.