Are our sins really just burned away?

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Anyone that believe they can continue to sin after being born again has not learn this from Jesus
Stop putting words in my mouth I never said you should go on sinning...I that it is inevitable to not ever sin again (be perfect) after salvation. your heart is in the right place, one should strive to cut all sin out of their life --but it is an unattainable feat.
 

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Exactly you disagree that God is able to free us from our sin. So you claim I do not know Him
No i disagree that you are without sin, god is able to rid this world of sin and he will in due time trust me. just not the way you are assuming.
 
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You just said again all men would be saved including those that dont believe. Its not true.
The Bible says that it is by faith that you saved and this is NOT OF YOURSELVES (works) but a free gift.
You are making salvation about what you did in addition to what Christ did.
The wqords of Jesus Himself...''repent or perish''. We must repent of our sins.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
 
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Stop putting words in my mouth I never said you should go on sinning...I that it is inevitable to not ever sin again .
If you are saying it is impossible to stop sinning then you ARE saying it is ok to continue
 
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How can it not be ok to keep sinning if it is impossible to stop?
 

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The wqords of Jesus Himself...''repent or perish''. We must repent of our sins.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
Then repent sinless. he means we must repent daily
 
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Then repent sinless. he means we must repent daily
It doesn't say that. If we must repent everyday because we are sinning everyday, then we have never repented in the first place.

Repentance includes forsaking our sin
 
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How can it not be ok to keep sinning if it is impossible to stop??
 

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Sinless it's like talking to an infant with carrots in his ears. You will never get it. Enough is enough.

Enjoy living in delusion that you are perfect.
 

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Okay well i am going to bed so everyone had a great night-even you sinless;]
 
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Sinless it's like talking to an infant with carrots in his ears. You will never get it. Enough is enough.

Enjoy living in delusion that you are perfect.
I will never bow to your false, apostate doctrine. I will cling to the doctrines of Jesus Christ alone
 

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I do I want to ask you one more question. Are you actually saying that you are living the exact same life (works-wise ) as Christ did on earth in thought and deed? EXACT SAME. WITHOUT ANY SIN WHATSOEVER.
And when Jesus said he who is without sin cast the first stone, would you have thrown away at the prostitute?
Answer plainly without scripture please.
 

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No He didn't, if He had then we would all be saved and the New Covenant would be unconditional
John 1:29[ John Testifies About Jesus ] The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

John was the witness and testified to this to Israel and when he went to the cross yes he did take all sin away by the death of him at the cross so Father could comelive in us when we believe and teach us how to say no to unrighteousenes.
today after the cross the death first the propitiation taking away all sin once and for all Father deals with each believer on the basis of a new life here and noiw we grow into maturity of being his born again inhis spit by the reurrectuion of the cross we are not saved by the death we are saved by the life that iswhat Christ came to do was to give us new life in the spirit of God. Now before Christ sould do this he had to take away the disease that caused death first so he coud present each person Holy that comes to God in beleif of the Son and recieve new life more abundantly as he said in John 10:10
New post will guve scripture(s) of we are forgiven 100%
 

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No He didn't, if He had then we would all be saved and the New Covenant would be unconditional
He did but noone is saved by the death, we are saved by the life abd this new life is in the resurrected Christ without this resurrection we all would still be dead in our transgressions and no one would be saved.
First the reception that we are by the cross 100% forgiven by God at the death of Christ, then came the resurrection where are to be at after we decide that we are dcxead with Christ at the death of Christ at the cross then we are made back alive by the resurrected Christ read it Romans 6:4 Romans 6:4Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

2 Corinthians 5:19
that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.
Colossians 1:22But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—
2 Corinthians 5:18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:
2 Corinthians 5:20We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.
Romans 5:10For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!
Romans 6:10For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
Hebrews 7:27who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.
Hebrews 9:12Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.
Hebrews 10:10By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Romans 6:4Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
2 Corinthians 3:6who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life
Galatians 3:13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”

Galatians 3:14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
1 Peter 1:18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors,
Romans 3:24and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
1 Corinthians 1:30It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.




Ephesians 1:7In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace
Colossians 1:14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Hebrews 9:12He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.


 
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Answer plainly without scripture please.
That about sums it up. ''Please do not speak to me the truth of God's word, just accept my false philosophies of men''

I speak only what I can confirm with scripture
 

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That about sums it up. ''Please do not speak to me the truth of God's word, just accept my false philosophies of men''

I speak only what I can confirm with scripture
Answer my 2 questions and please stop dodging them:

1: Are you saying that you are living the exact same life (works-wise) as Christ did on earth in thought and deed? EXACT SAME. WITHOUT ANY SIN WHATSOEVER.

2: And when Jesus said he who is without sin cast the first stone, would you have thrown one at the woman?

I want to hear from your soul that's why I said don't use Scripture. You can add scripture if you like, but answer these two question from your soul as well.
 
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Answer my 2 questions and please stop dodging them:

1: Are you saying that you are living the exact same life (works-wise) as Christ did on earth in thought and deed? EXACT SAME. WITHOUT ANY SIN WHATSOEVER.

2: And when Jesus said he who is without sin cast the first stone, would you have thrown one at the woman?

I want to hear from your soul that's why I said don't use Scripture. You can add scripture if you like, but answer these two question from your soul as well.
#1 I have never raised anyone from the dead.

#2 No I would not have stoned her, I would have done what Jesus did, give her space for repentance
 

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#1 I have never raised anyone from the dead.

#2 No I would not have stoned her, I would have done what Jesus did, give her space for repentance

#1 You skated around the heart of my question. Excluding miracles and raising from the dead, are you now living the exact same life of perfect love, deeds and perfection as Christ did? Perfect Holiness?

#2 Fair enough. Forget that question for now. Funny how you don't give us here space for repentance, though. Doesn't add up. Somehow you seem contradictory. Never mind that. Focus on question #1.