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That is as Jesus said how are you any differant than the heathen, the tax collector if you only love those that love you, even the heathen and tax collector do this hmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and we have denomination after denonmination and this denomination saying they are right and they over there are wrong.
Kind of like the pharisee that said I am glad I am not like that person over there I pay my Tithes, I go to Church, I do what is right.
And the sinner yells and screams and says oh Lord forgive me a sinner.
But today after the cross, Lord I know I have sinned against you and others, I see what Christ did at the cross so I thnk you for this redemption, now Father can you please teach me how to walk in your footsteps, giving you all the credit
Becasue today we look back at the cross, a miraculous salvation, loving all equally, and scolding in God's way of love 1 cor 13
Kind of like the pharisee that said I am glad I am not like that person over there I pay my Tithes, I go to Church, I do what is right.
And the sinner yells and screams and says oh Lord forgive me a sinner.
But today after the cross, Lord I know I have sinned against you and others, I see what Christ did at the cross so I thnk you for this redemption, now Father can you please teach me how to walk in your footsteps, giving you all the credit
Becasue today we look back at the cross, a miraculous salvation, loving all equally, and scolding in God's way of love 1 cor 13
To put a stop to this run around as I see what is going on whether you intend this or not see below all have a free choice by God, free to be saved
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
And the next is whatt it is by God us taking the gift freely are this next verse, it has nothing to do with working for nor is at all meant to be taken for granted
Galatians 2:20I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
therefore
Galatians 6:14But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
The above is where the power of God is to be recieved by the ones that believe, too much has been stripped away from the cross where all power resides and one recieves everything needed for life and Godliness
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
And the next is whatt it is by God us taking the gift freely are this next verse, it has nothing to do with working for nor is at all meant to be taken for granted
Galatians 2:20I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
therefore
Galatians 6:14But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
The above is where the power of God is to be recieved by the ones that believe, too much has been stripped away from the cross where all power resides and one recieves everything needed for life and Godliness
Who states that? and he died for all at the cross, but this does not give life, death is death and it shows our death and that he took our death on in fact the whole worl's death on John the Baptist is the witness John 1:29 and many witnessed the resurrection. It is by the resurrected life we are saved and in the resurrected life we are so busy praising God that really there is no time to sin. But if we do or anyone does we have an advocate Jesus Christ the righteous one, not to be taken for granted.
1 John 2:1My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
1 John 2:1My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
I tell you this I am about to say IS NOT GEARED toward anyone as ot anyone as an accusation!!!!!!!!!!
The fact is Evil enters in to anything finding just a crack in the wall, not purposely from anyone or even if purposely from anyone. The issue is evil has a needle full of Heroin and it dumps it into our minds whenever, whereverf it finds a crck in the Helmit of salvation, and when we hear this though of that other person is bad and we recieve it, flesh starts its downward spiral unto us all, decieving us and stripping us of God's armor
Hope someone to see
The fact is Evil enters in to anything finding just a crack in the wall, not purposely from anyone or even if purposely from anyone. The issue is evil has a needle full of Heroin and it dumps it into our minds whenever, whereverf it finds a crck in the Helmit of salvation, and when we hear this though of that other person is bad and we recieve it, flesh starts its downward spiral unto us all, decieving us and stripping us of God's armor
Hope someone to see
Obedience is warranted with or without understanding. Therefore, with or without understanding, why leave us in a state of confusion?
This then leads to the question do we obey that which we do not understand?
This then leads to the next question; once the truth is revealed and we do not obey, is there any difference in disobedience when not in understanding?
This then leads to the question do we obey that which we do not understand?
This then leads to the next question; once the truth is revealed and we do not obey, is there any difference in disobedience when not in understanding?
K
Obedience without understanding is not warranted. If it were, you would be hearing too many voices and could not choose which to obey. Preaching often causes confusion, as does church teaching. But Jesus does not leave us confused.
The entire direction suggested by the OP is not the way God wishes to take us. That's why it leads to seeming contradictions. I say again, it is good that we are not puppets.
The entire direction suggested by the OP is not the way God wishes to take us. That's why it leads to seeming contradictions. I say again, it is good that we are not puppets.
What of faith? Abraham did not ubderstand why God asked him to sacrifice Isaac did he? He did trust God enough to keep his promise. Faith is about trusting and doing without knowing the outcome.
It leading to contradictions is the purpose. Which leads us to look for ourselves in scripture...or it should.
God not bringing confusion is why we have His word.
I do not believe as well that we are puppets.
Obedience should be something we should do even without understanding of why.
And again I would ask..if confusion is something God did not author...why so many "truths" in this world?
It leading to contradictions is the purpose. Which leads us to look for ourselves in scripture...or it should.
God not bringing confusion is why we have His word.
I do not believe as well that we are puppets.
Obedience should be something we should do even without understanding of why.
And again I would ask..if confusion is something God did not author...why so many "truths" in this world?
The natural man forms his own "truth" and goes his own way; thus even with God's omnipotence and exhaustive foreknowledge of circumstances, He does not ordain everything.
We see that wickedness and disobedience was evident in the beginning to the point that God regretted creating man...
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
We see that wickedness and disobedience was evident in the beginning to the point that God regretted creating man...
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
K
Abraham did not know what God's plan was about Isaac and the promise, but Abraham clearly understood who it was who was asking him to do it. That is how we reconcile the two statements.
It leads to seeming contradictions. I agree, proper study of the Scripture until we encounter Jesus removes such apparent problems, thus resolving confusion.
Contradictions in the world do not come from God. They come from people who would rather not consult Scripture sufficiently often or sufficiently thoroughly. The same people often believe they are puppets, because they choose for themselves to submit to human statements about God, finding that easier in the beginning than learning for themselves.
It leads to seeming contradictions. I agree, proper study of the Scripture until we encounter Jesus removes such apparent problems, thus resolving confusion.
Contradictions in the world do not come from God. They come from people who would rather not consult Scripture sufficiently often or sufficiently thoroughly. The same people often believe they are puppets, because they choose for themselves to submit to human statements about God, finding that easier in the beginning than learning for themselves.
Abraham knew who it was. Abraham had faith.
Why then, if God so clearly reveals Himself to everyone and is not the author of confusion and wants us to know the truth, do we have so many differences when it comes to "knowing the truth"?
If God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow; why is it we somehow interpret him differently every few decades?
Does God change or do we?
Do we believe differently or do we stray away into apostasy?
Why then, if God so clearly reveals Himself to everyone and is not the author of confusion and wants us to know the truth, do we have so many differences when it comes to "knowing the truth"?
If God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow; why is it we somehow interpret him differently every few decades?
Does God change or do we?
Do we believe differently or do we stray away into apostasy?
Every man develops his own way to be right as long as it agrees with himself and a lot of times so he can do as he will
Here is the bottom line to me.
Out of compassion, what I am about to do and or say first I think asking God as well, what I am about to say or do will or does it harm anyone? In other words I am going to go to a casino, gamble a little bit, or I am going to have a drink or two. It to me boils down to whether or not I will actually harm my neighbor or not, and this includes me.
Tell me messenger, you were not put here by your choice but by parents? Me too, and the next person and on down the line. So do you have as much right to be here as the next person? Yes you do, we all got here through the same as the other, the womb by the Dad that you know had the craving.
Anyway God desires for us to get along LOVE one another, guit taking other's free will away, this is what God gets mad at. Is another man's force on another and coersion, to get one to see your, my or another persons way
Plain and simple GOD just love us all, that is the base. So go now and just love your neighbor, do not take away other's free will, because then you might lose yours, or should anyway yes?
A movie by George Burns "Oh God" to me very enlightening, but man just continues to get caught up in religion. Which is only a way to try and get God to respond to them by what they are doing and God is not a responder, God is the initiator, we the people are responders, trying to be initiators, and so we get others to respond to us and in essence we become God's to those that respond to us and soon we are only using God's name as a catalyst to share between one another responding to each other and thus kind of leaving God out of the picture and have been decieved into using God as a sort of candy machine for our own gain
I will quit now
Here is the bottom line to me.
Out of compassion, what I am about to do and or say first I think asking God as well, what I am about to say or do will or does it harm anyone? In other words I am going to go to a casino, gamble a little bit, or I am going to have a drink or two. It to me boils down to whether or not I will actually harm my neighbor or not, and this includes me.
Tell me messenger, you were not put here by your choice but by parents? Me too, and the next person and on down the line. So do you have as much right to be here as the next person? Yes you do, we all got here through the same as the other, the womb by the Dad that you know had the craving.
Anyway God desires for us to get along LOVE one another, guit taking other's free will away, this is what God gets mad at. Is another man's force on another and coersion, to get one to see your, my or another persons way
Plain and simple GOD just love us all, that is the base. So go now and just love your neighbor, do not take away other's free will, because then you might lose yours, or should anyway yes?
A movie by George Burns "Oh God" to me very enlightening, but man just continues to get caught up in religion. Which is only a way to try and get God to respond to them by what they are doing and God is not a responder, God is the initiator, we the people are responders, trying to be initiators, and so we get others to respond to us and in essence we become God's to those that respond to us and soon we are only using God's name as a catalyst to share between one another responding to each other and thus kind of leaving God out of the picture and have been decieved into using God as a sort of candy machine for our own gain
I will quit now
A spiritually minded person will never come to you with the demand-" Believe this and that"; a spiritually- minded person will demand that you align your life with the standards of Jesus. We are not asked to believe the Bible, but to believe the One whom the Bible reveals,( John 5:39-40 ). We are called to present liberty for the conscience of others, not to bring them liberty for their thoughts, and opinions. And if we ourselves are free with the liberty of Christ, others will be brought into that same liberty-the liberty that comes from realizing the absolute control and authority of Jesus Christ.
Always measure your life solely by the standards of Jesus. Submit yourself to His yoke, and His alone; and always be careful never to place a yoke on others that is not of Jesus Christ. It takes God a long time to get us to stop thinking that unless everyone sees things exactly as we do, they must be wrong.